It seems to be you that is threatened by the term "religion". I'm not threatened by it, I just object to any Christian who claims to be more special than any other. These types of elititist attitudes we can do without.tam wrote:
Regardless of what you believe, OC, I know that I am not part of religion. Why is that so threatening(?) to you that you have to accuse me of lacking integrity, or of lying?
Not as you and others seem to define Christian.
That is exactly how I would have defined it as a Christian.A Christian is a disciple of Christ who is anointed with holy spirit. Christ is the One who chooses whom He anoints with holy spirit. I am a Christian according to Christ, to the anointing that He gave me.
This is pretty much a standard definition for what a Christian is. Common throughout Chrstian churches, at least where I come from. I believed I was annointed by the HS.
Standard Chrsitianity as far as I can see, which puts you on par with most of them.
I did answer the question. You've cut off the rest of my response!tam wrote:You didn't answer my question. I think that is an answer in and of itself.We still get to tick "No religion" and can do so with integrity.tam wrote:
If the rest of the world believes that atheists are immoral and foolish, does that mean it's true? Does that mean you must accept a false label?
None of those options are in the census. If they were, you'd have a relevent argument, but you don't.
Of course it does. It's religious ritual. All that stuff you do is religious ritual.tam wrote:
Reading the bible does not mean that you belong to a religion.
Prayer, bible study, quiet times, worship, singing praises to God. All religious ritual.
tam wrote:I'm okay about calling it a reglion if others wish to define it as such. It was still a relationship with God as far as I was concerned.tam wrote:
But based upon your responses to me, you were in a religion. You were religious because you were a literal member of a sect or denomination. At least according to your responses to me.
How do you think?tam wrote:How exactly did you give money to God?Of course now I look back and I see that the praying, studying of the bible, serving God, giving money to God, taking communion... plus many more things that seemed non-relgious to me at the time were indeed religious.
"The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'
tam wrote:Following a divine figure and living by his rules is religion.Once again, Christ is a person, not a religion.And you follow Christ religiously, it seems.tam wrote:
A Christian follows Christ. A Christian listens to and obeys Christ. Christ is a person; not a religion; and He says that we are to worship (God), in spirit and in truth.
Do you consider it an important ritual?tam wrote:Have you ever been baptised?
My mother had me baptized (with water) when I was three weeks old, by a priest of a religion she did not belong to (he was the only one willing to do it for her; her own religion did not practice infant baptism). But I had nothing to do with that.
A religious ritual! Something you had to go through, right?tam wrote:
Christ baptized (anointed) me with holy spirit. There was no religion or other people involved.
It's still a religious ritual.tam wrote:Partaken in communion?
Since that is a command from Christ, then yes, of course. I belong to Christ (Jaheshua) and listen to Him. But Christ is a person, not a religion.
If you're doing it on your own it's still are religious ritual.tam wrote:Done a group bible study?
Yes, but that was with a religion - back when I thought I needed to join a religion. I ended that study, and that was a religion I did not join. I joined no religion.
All this stuff is the basics of what Christians do. And other religions do similar things.
Religious ritual!tam wrote:Held hands while praying?
While giving thanks? Sure, and also without. But giving thanks and holding hands is not a religious practice. Giving thanks is something that comes from the heart.
Yeah I know.tam wrote:Prayed in public?
Christ said to pray in private.
When you take time out each day to do it. Much like a Muslim might kneel on their mat and face Mecca.tam wrote:
Had quiet times when you go to a quiet place study the bible and pray?
That is a strange question.
How is a quiet time a religious ritual?
Yep, you Tam conduct much the same religious rituals as every other Christian. You just don't want to admit they're religious rituals. Clearly, your brand of Christianity is not anythng more special than any other brand of Christianity and not any less religious.