Why did God create a new virus to kill people? This is a question for any Christain that believes in the Noah myth or creationism. Because if either is true then God did create this virus and did it to kill people.
Also, why does God allow this virus when he could wave his wand and get rid of it?
Cornavirus why did god create it
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Re: Cornavirus why did god create it
Post #11[Replying to post 10 by JehovahsWitness]
Exactly how did humans achieve that? On the one hand we are told that humans cannot create living things and now we are told that humans created viruses and apparently the other organisms responsible for sickness and death. Last I heard, only God can create life,Man, not God, is entirely reponsible for all deadly virusus, as the first human couple rebelled against God and introduced sickness and death to the human family.
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If someone was putting together an Ikea furniture and did not follow the instructions and did not put it together correctly, can he blame Ikea for it? If one thinks they know how to do things without consulting the instructions, who's to blame if things go wrong?
Though it's not conclusive what is the origin of coronavirus, some theories are it came from bats or snakes.
"Snakes"the Chinese krait and the Chinese cobra"may be the original source of the newly discovered coronavirus that has triggered an outbreak of a deadly infectious respiratory illness in China this winter."
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... -in-china/
"In the case of SARS and this coronavirus outbreak, bats were the original hosts. They then infected other animals via their poop or saliva, and the unwitting intermediaries transmitted the virus to humans."
https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-c ... ans-2020-1
Wet markets that contain these animals for human consumption is a breeding ground for viruses to jump from animals to humans.
"Because wet markets put people and live and dead animals " dogs, chickens, pigs, civets, and more " in close contact, it can be easy for a virus to make an interspecies jump."
https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-c ... ans-2020-1
Snakes and bats are considered unclean animals in the Bible and are instructed in Lev 11 what are clean and unclean animals.
[Lev 11:2 KJV] Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These [are] the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that [are] on the earth.
If people would practice eating only clean animals, it would reduce the risk of the introduction of viruses into the human population.
Though it's not conclusive what is the origin of coronavirus, some theories are it came from bats or snakes.
"Snakes"the Chinese krait and the Chinese cobra"may be the original source of the newly discovered coronavirus that has triggered an outbreak of a deadly infectious respiratory illness in China this winter."
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... -in-china/
"In the case of SARS and this coronavirus outbreak, bats were the original hosts. They then infected other animals via their poop or saliva, and the unwitting intermediaries transmitted the virus to humans."
https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-c ... ans-2020-1
Wet markets that contain these animals for human consumption is a breeding ground for viruses to jump from animals to humans.
"Because wet markets put people and live and dead animals " dogs, chickens, pigs, civets, and more " in close contact, it can be easy for a virus to make an interspecies jump."
https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-c ... ans-2020-1
Snakes and bats are considered unclean animals in the Bible and are instructed in Lev 11 what are clean and unclean animals.
[Lev 11:2 KJV] Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These [are] the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that [are] on the earth.
If people would practice eating only clean animals, it would reduce the risk of the introduction of viruses into the human population.
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This is ultimately an argument about the existence of evil.
God created both good and evil. You cannot have one without the other. Evil exists so we can know what good is and vice versa. It is like the Sabbath Day. You cannot have anything holy or "set aside" if there is nothing that is common.
This means that yes God created certain people to be devoted to destruction. He created pain, etc... People may think that that makes God evil, but I assure you, He doesn't care about people's opinions. All of creation was made for His elect that He chose before creation itself.
God created both good and evil. You cannot have one without the other. Evil exists so we can know what good is and vice versa. It is like the Sabbath Day. You cannot have anything holy or "set aside" if there is nothing that is common.
This means that yes God created certain people to be devoted to destruction. He created pain, etc... People may think that that makes God evil, but I assure you, He doesn't care about people's opinions. All of creation was made for His elect that He chose before creation itself.
Re: Cornavirus why did god create it
Post #14The virus and all such agents of suffering and death in this world are as a result of the fall of creation from the once Good state of being that it initially had..Donray wrote: Why did God create a new virus to kill people? This is a question for any Christain that believes in the Noah myth or creationism. Because if either is true then God did create this virus and did it to kill people.
Also, why does God allow this virus when he could wave his wand and get rid of it?
So the virus and all suffering we experience is evidence that we cannot deny that we live in a imperfect corrupted creation.. This state of affairs will continue until God establishes the New Earth which will once again be good..
So God allows the current situation to continue until the number of those who shall be saved is reached..
Yes God could get rid of it, along with all other faults that exist in our current human existence.. But His will is not to get rid of it yet..
Re: Cornavirus why did god create it
Post #16[Replying to post 10 by JehovahsWitness]
Please explain how man created the coronavirus? Do you belive in Darwin's evolution and that is how all the deadly things were created?
Again I wanted response from people that do not belive in evolution.
diseases and poisonous things that kill humans. Which is it????? You cannot have it both ways.
Tell me the exact date of the mishap in the garden. Also, your God have created bacteria and Adam and Eve were just that? After all, your god must be a very alien looking thing and since your god created man in his image then the original man must have been alien looking.
I like how you say you don't belive in evolution and yet say natural evolution is responsible for diseases.
Please explain how man created the coronavirus? Do you belive in Darwin's evolution and that is how all the deadly things were created?
Again I wanted response from people that do not belive in evolution.
diseases and poisonous things that kill humans. Which is it????? You cannot have it both ways.
Tell me the exact date of the mishap in the garden. Also, your God have created bacteria and Adam and Eve were just that? After all, your god must be a very alien looking thing and since your god created man in his image then the original man must have been alien looking.
I like how you say you don't belive in evolution and yet say natural evolution is responsible for diseases.
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Re: Cornavirus why did god create it
Post #17This is incredibly honest, and I thank you for this post.TheGreatDebate wrote:So yes, He created this virus, as well as every virus that has ever existed. He created WW2, etc
We may take this as a slight against modern perceptions of human rights, but if God is real, than He is the ultimate arbiter of whatever rights we may or may not possess.
Isa 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
It fits in with my view about what good and evil actually are.
If a human were to imitate God, that human would be evil, because he doesn't actually have the authority of God. Only someone in that position could simply dictate that his actions were good.
Some humans, however, do have right and proper dominion over human rights in the human world. Great philosophers like Rothbard and Locke have specifically discovered which rights humans have, and why they're only for humans.
Likewise, if another human were to imitate that, and have his own ideas about rights, that human would be evil because he doesn't have that authority; the authority to discover genuine rights.
Even in absolute abeyance with those with greater authority, someone with greater authority can simply say, well, that is wrong that you are doing, and then that person is evil.
Thus good is simply a measure of moral authority.
This is why people like Leftists and Libertarians seem so innately good, and make others jealous of them: They can engage in actions that would be immoral for anyone else, like punching Nazis or evading taxes. I'm often hateful of them because I recognise this about morality, and I wish I had moral authority so that I too, could be good.
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Re: Cornavirus why did god create it
Post #19Donray wrote: [Replying to post 10 by JehovahsWitness]
Please explain how man created the coronavirus?
Did I say man " created the coronavirus" the virus?
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I don't see anything wrong with that assumption, and I'm an atheist.Willum wrote: A core of your assumption is that this god, is good.
I think of it as a fictional character, but I see nothing with presuming its alignment and then assigning value to those actions only according to that, because that's what people do with each other in real life. It's always about why someone did something and never about what they did. Anything, for the right reason. Nothing, for the wrong one.
Fictional heroes are allowed to kill and steal pretty much whenever they please, as long as the writing is good. The question is: Is the act justified?
The answer is yes, not because of anything about the act but because that character is the hero.
A good writer spins the tale so that the justification plays out in front of the reader's face, but in the case of the Bible, a simpler approach was taken: Yes, it's justified, and no, you can't possibly understand why. But the justification is as much a part of the story as it is when the villain does something the hero doesn't like, so the hero sees to it he's punished.
So that character in the Bible is absolutely good. It's a part of the story as it is written.
The only way to prove this character God is evil is to prove he does exist and he did do those things AND that none of it was justified.

