Jesus Way of Shepherding

[OneJack]

Jesus Way of Shepherding - COMING to and FOLLOWING the Lord Jesus Christ until the end,

Let's examine closely the flow of actions between the sheep and the Lord regarding salvation:


27. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.


28. And I give them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

Read between the lines:

1. When we hear the voice of the Lord Jesus, we are known by Him.

2. When we follow the Lord Jesus, He gives us:

a) eternal life,
b) we shall never perish, and
c) no one can pluck us out of His hand.

There is no teaching of Jesus about 'free gift' or 'by grace, and the belief in the finished work of Christ to be saved, as you teach it today. Instead, those teachings are from Paul. Paul is not Jesus, even if you say he was sent by the Lord."

[Capbook]

[Replying to Capbook in post #57]

Is that an acceptance that you and your group are the prophets of the endtime?

We’re just one [family of God] among the many families of God today worldwide.

Can't we not call the prophets as "family of God" also?

I tell you, they are one and the same to the Lord, and so with us today.

So, you just confirmed that you and your group are the prophets of today.
If that is so, may we know when the true Jesus second coming would be?

You’re so obsessed with that second coming of Jesus, which even the Son himself does not know when will that be.

Now that Jesus is in heaven I believe He knows when it will be, not when He was still on earth as He said in Acts 1:7.

Act 1:7  He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or epochs which the Father has fixed by His own authority; 

[OneJack]

[Replying to Capbook in post #61]

Now that Jesus is in heaven

A. Biblically speaking, Jesus is not only in heaven but still with us and He is everywhere.

Matt 28:20.  Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

B. Godlically speaking, the Lord Jesus is the only God who exists in heaven, earth, or the universe.

Thus saith the Lord Jesus Christ:

All of you who are listening, listen! I am your Lord God, whom should you fear? I, the Almighty, whom should you dread? Remember, when I am by your side, you have nothing to fear, nothing to worry about, because I will save you from any danger if you trust in Me and consider Me as your salvation and eternal life. As your Lord, whom you will worship and none other, the one and only God who exists in heaven, earth, or the universe. I, who created everything, I, who gave you life, to whom will you go? If not to Me, then you have nowhere else to go."

I believe He knows when it will be, not when He was still on earth as He said in Acts 1:7.

Act 1:7  He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or epochs which the Father has fixed by His own authority; 

Of course, Jesus knows when His second coming will be because He is the Almighty God. It’s the Son per se who doesn’t know the day and the hour of His coming for the second time, which is the Judgment Day.

Matt 24:36. But about that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.

[Capbook]

Now that Jesus is in heaven

A. Biblically speaking, Jesus is not only in heaven but still with us and He is everywhere.

Matt 28:20.  Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

B. Godlically speaking, the Lord Jesus is the only God who exists in heaven, earth, or the universe.

I believe Jesus is with us through the Holy Spirit. Jesus is at the right hand of the Father.

Thus saith the Lord Jesus Christ:

All of you who are listening, listen! I am your Lord God, whom should you fear? I, the Almighty, whom should you dread? Remember, when I am by your side, you have nothing to fear, nothing to worry about, because I will save you from any danger if you trust in Me and consider Me as your salvation and eternal life. As your Lord, whom you will worship and none other, the one and only God who exists in heaven, earth, or the universe. I, who created everything, I, who gave you life, to whom will you go? If not to Me, then you have nowhere else to go."

Does your Jesus told you He is the Tetragrammaton?

I believe He knows when it will be, not when He was still on earth as He said in Acts 1:7.

Act 1:7  He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or epochs which the Father has fixed by His own authority; 

Of course, Jesus knows when His second coming will be because He is the Almighty God. It’s the Son per se who doesn’t know the day and the hour of His coming for the second time, which is the Judgment Day.

Matt 24:36. But about that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.

As you communicate with your Jesus, does he tells you when that would be?

[OneJack]

[Replying to Capbook in post #63]

I believe Jesus is with us through the Holy Spirit. Jesus is at the right hand of the Father.

Okay, it’s your choice, go for it.

Does your Jesus told you He is the Tetragrammaton?

He assured us He is the Almighty God.

As you communicate with your Jesus, does he tells you when that would be?

No!

[placebofactor]

[Replying to Capbook in post #63]

I believe Jesus is with us through the Holy Spirit. Jesus is at the right hand of the Father.

Okay, it’s your choice, go for it.

Does your Jesus told you He is the Tetragrammaton?

He assured us He is the Almighty God.

As you communicate with your Jesus, does he tells you when that would be?

No!

Two things:
The Son of God is now sitting at the right hand of the Father. He will remain there until the Father has made His (Jesus) enemies his footstool. Jesus said in John 15:26, "The Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my (Jesus) name, he shall teach you all things," So Jesus is with us through the Holy Spirit, who will not speak of himself, John 16:13, but will speak only what he hears from both the Father and Son.

Now, Jesus may have said in Mark 13:32, "No man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." Nothing is mentioned about the Holy Spirit not knowing the day or the hour. And when the Holy Spirit was sent to us by the Father and the Son, we are told that the Holy Spirit,

John 14:26, "Will teach us all things, and bring all things to our remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." There are mysteries now being revealed to us that only 100 years ago could not be understood, but are now being made manifest. Example:
1. The prophecies concerning the Jews' return to their land. Prophecies fulfilled on May 14, 1948.

2. The Hebrew language is being brought back from the dead.

3. The shekel is again the money of Israel.

4, Satellite communications so that the world can see within minutes any worldly event. Example, when the two Witnesses of Revelation 11 are murdered, the Bible, 2000 years ago, said, Revelation 11:9, "And they of the people and (tribes) and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and a half," This could only be accomplished with Satellite technology, a prophecy made 2000 years ago, come to pass.

[OneJack]

[Replying to OneJack in post #64]

Two things:
The Son of God is now sitting at the right hand of the Father. He will remain there until the Father has made His (Jesus) enemies his footstool.

If you may, just want to ask you - where and how did you learn this notion from? Have you ascended to heaven and have a fresh revelation from the Father?

Jesus said in John 15:26, "The Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my (Jesus) name, he shall teach you all things,"

Does this mean that the Holy Spirit teaches you today in your spiritual quest of knowing God and Jesus?

So Jesus is with us through the Holy Spirit, who will not speak of himself, John 16:13, but will speak only what he hears from both the Father and Son.

Jesus used the pronoun ‘he’ to refer to the Holy Spirit, didn’t the Lord? However, in Matt 28:20, the Lord Jesus used the pronoun ‘I’ to refer to Himself, who will be with His disciples always unto the end of the world. This is the reason why Jesus (Matt 1:21) is the Immanuel (God with us, Isa 7:14) or the Eternal Father (Isa 9:6), as clearly reflected in the 3 prophecies (Isa 7:14; 9:6; Matt 1:21) about the virgin birth of the son who’ll be called the Son of God (Luke 1:35).

Now, Jesus may have said in Mark 13:32, "No man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." Nothing is mentioned about the Holy Spirit not knowing the day or the hour.

What would that mean if the Father didn’t mention the Holy Spirit?

And when the Holy Spirit was sent to us by the Father and the Son, we are told that the Holy Spirit,

John 14:26, "Will teach us all things, and bring all things to our remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

Again, have you experienced the tutelage of the Holy Spirit in this context?

There are mysteries now being revealed to us that only 100 years ago could not be understood, but are now being made manifest. Example:
1. The prophecies concerning the Jews' return to their land. Prophecies fulfilled on May 14, 1948.

2. The Hebrew language is being brought back from the dead.

3. The shekel is again the money of Israel.

4, Satellite communications so that the world can see within minutes any worldly event. Example, when the two Witnesses of Revelation 11 are murdered, the Bible, 2000 years ago, said, Revelation 11:9, "And they of the people and (tribes) and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and a half," This could only be accomplished with Satellite technology, a prophecy made 2000 years ago, come to pass.

How about this one revelation today from the Lord Jesus, who says to the whole world:

Thus saith the Lord Jesus:

“All of you who are listening, listen! I am your Lord God, whom should you fear? I, the Almighty, whom should you dread? Remember, when I am by your side, you have nothing to fear, nothing to worry about, because I will save you from any danger if you trust in Me and consider Me as your salvation and eternal life. As your Lord, whom you will worship and none other, the one and only God who exists in heaven, earth, or the universe. I, who created everything, I, who gave you life, to whom will you go? If not to Me, then you have nowhere else to go."

"Remember, with Me, nothing is impossible. So, no matter what you ask for, even if it seems impossible to you, if it's for your own good, I won't withhold it from you. I won't deny your request. And remember, in My church, no one will stand up to explain the holy scriptures or lead people to explain them, and no one will stand as a pastor, because in My church, I alone am the Pastor who stands before you. Remember, when two or three people talk about Me without arguing, I am in their midst.”

"Remember, in My ministry or in My church, you are all equal, no one is high or low, no one is rich or poor, no one is short or tall, no one is disabled or healthy, you are all equal. Even if you are sick, you are still equal to those who are not, because you are all spiritually whole. Because what you feel is only in the flesh."

[Capbook]

How about this one revelation today from the Lord Jesus, who says to the whole world:

Thus saith the Lord Jesus:

“All of you who are listening, listen! I am your Lord God, whom should you fear? I, the Almighty, whom should you dread? Remember, when I am by your side, you have nothing to fear, nothing to worry about, because I will save you from any danger if you trust in Me and consider Me as your salvation and eternal life. As your Lord, whom you will worship and none other, the one and only God who exists in heaven, earth, or the universe. I, who created everything, I, who gave you life, to whom will you go? If not to Me, then you have nowhere else to go."

"Remember, with Me, nothing is impossible. So, no matter what you ask for, even if it seems impossible to you, if it's for your own good, I won't withhold it from you. I won't deny your request. And remember, in My church, no one will stand up to explain the holy scriptures or lead people to explain them, and no one will stand as a pastor, because in My church, I alone am the Pastor who stands before you. Remember, when two or three people talk about Me without arguing, I am in their midst.”

"Remember, in My ministry or in My church, you are all equal, no one is high or low, no one is rich or poor, no one is short or tall, no one is disabled or healthy, you are all equal. Even if you are sick, you are still equal to those who are not, because you are all spiritually whole. Because what you feel is only in the flesh."

The Scriptures had been taught before Jesus was born, and had been the Holy Scriptures of Judaism.
Would that mean that what the Bible Jesus read from Scriptures are unreliable?
As you state that the Bible's messages doesn't matter to you.

Luk 24:44  Now He said to them, "These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled." 
Luk 24:45  Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, 

[OneJack]

How about this one revelation today from the Lord Jesus, who says to the whole world:

Thus saith the Lord Jesus:

“All of you who are listening, listen! I am your Lord God, whom should you fear? I, the Almighty, whom should you dread? Remember, when I am by your side, you have nothing to fear, nothing to worry about, because I will save you from any danger if you trust in Me and consider Me as your salvation and eternal life. As your Lord, whom you will worship and none other, the one and only God who exists in heaven, earth, or the universe. I, who created everything, I, who gave you life, to whom will you go? If not to Me, then you have nowhere else to go."

"Remember, with Me, nothing is impossible. So, no matter what you ask for, even if it seems impossible to you, if it's for your own good, I won't withhold it from you. I won't deny your request. And remember, in My church, no one will stand up to explain the holy scriptures or lead people to explain them, and no one will stand as a pastor, because in My church, I alone am the Pastor who stands before you. Remember, when two or three people talk about Me without arguing, I am in their midst.”

"Remember, in My ministry or in My church, you are all equal, no one is high or low, no one is rich or poor, no one is short or tall, no one is disabled or healthy, you are all equal. Even if you are sick, you are still equal to those who are not, because you are all spiritually whole. Because what you feel is only in the flesh."

The Scriptures had been taught before Jesus was born, and had been the Holy Scriptures of Judaism.
Would that mean that what the Bible Jesus read from Scriptures are unreliable?
As you state that the Bible's messages doesn't matter to you.

Luk 24:44  Now He said to them, "These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled." 
Luk 24:45  Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, 

I told you already, the bible matters not as far as salvation is at stake. It is not a prerequisite to our salvation, which is only dependent on the living Christ Jesus alone.

[Capbook]

How about this one revelation today from the Lord Jesus, who says to the whole world:

Thus saith the Lord Jesus:

“All of you who are listening, listen! I am your Lord God, whom should you fear? I, the Almighty, whom should you dread? Remember, when I am by your side, you have nothing to fear, nothing to worry about, because I will save you from any danger if you trust in Me and consider Me as your salvation and eternal life. As your Lord, whom you will worship and none other, the one and only God who exists in heaven, earth, or the universe. I, who created everything, I, who gave you life, to whom will you go? If not to Me, then you have nowhere else to go."

"Remember, with Me, nothing is impossible. So, no matter what you ask for, even if it seems impossible to you, if it's for your own good, I won't withhold it from you. I won't deny your request. And remember, in My church, no one will stand up to explain the holy scriptures or lead people to explain them, and no one will stand as a pastor, because in My church, I alone am the Pastor who stands before you. Remember, when two or three people talk about Me without arguing, I am in their midst.”

"Remember, in My ministry or in My church, you are all equal, no one is high or low, no one is rich or poor, no one is short or tall, no one is disabled or healthy, you are all equal. Even if you are sick, you are still equal to those who are not, because you are all spiritually whole. Because what you feel is only in the flesh."

The Scriptures had been taught before Jesus was born, and had been the Holy Scriptures of Judaism.
Would that mean that what the Bible Jesus read from Scriptures are unreliable?
As you state that the Bible's messages doesn't matter to you.

Luk 24:44  Now He said to them, "These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled." 
Luk 24:45  Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, 

I told you already, the bible matters not as far as salvation is at stake. It is not a prerequisite to our salvation, which is only dependent on the living Christ Jesus alone.

To confirm, my question is about the words of our Bible Jesus in the Bible about salvation does it matter to you or not?

[OneJack]

How about this one revelation today from the Lord Jesus, who says to the whole world:

Thus saith the Lord Jesus:

“All of you who are listening, listen! I am your Lord God, whom should you fear? I, the Almighty, whom should you dread? Remember, when I am by your side, you have nothing to fear, nothing to worry about, because I will save you from any danger if you trust in Me and consider Me as your salvation and eternal life. As your Lord, whom you will worship and none other, the one and only God who exists in heaven, earth, or the universe. I, who created everything, I, who gave you life, to whom will you go? If not to Me, then you have nowhere else to go."

"Remember, with Me, nothing is impossible. So, no matter what you ask for, even if it seems impossible to you, if it's for your own good, I won't withhold it from you. I won't deny your request. And remember, in My church, no one will stand up to explain the holy scriptures or lead people to explain them, and no one will stand as a pastor, because in My church, I alone am the Pastor who stands before you. Remember, when two or three people talk about Me without arguing, I am in their midst.”

"Remember, in My ministry or in My church, you are all equal, no one is high or low, no one is rich or poor, no one is short or tall, no one is disabled or healthy, you are all equal. Even if you are sick, you are still equal to those who are not, because you are all spiritually whole. Because what you feel is only in the flesh."

The Scriptures had been taught before Jesus was born, and had been the Holy Scriptures of Judaism.
Would that mean that what the Bible Jesus read from Scriptures are unreliable?
As you state that the Bible's messages doesn't matter to you.

Luk 24:44  Now He said to them, "These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled." 
Luk 24:45  Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, 

I told you already, the bible matters not as far as salvation is at stake. It is not a prerequisite to our salvation, which is only dependent on the living Christ Jesus alone.

To confirm, my question is about the words of our Bible Jesus in the Bible about salvation does it matter to you or not?

There is no ‘Bible Jesus’ but Jesus alone, real and forever living God the Almighty. The bible is just a book of testimonies to Jesus.