Paradise on Earth

[onewithhim]

When I learned that the Bible speaks of a restored Garden of Eden and the restoration of mankind to the perfection and endless life that Adam forfeited, I was thrilled. Who doesn't want to keep living on this beautiful earth, with our loved ones, and being able to do all the things we love to do---endlessly?

If God said to you today, "When do you want to die?" would you say "now!!"? I don't think very many people would say that.

We CAN live forever here on Earth. The Bible tells us that we can.

Matthew 5:5
Psalm 37:9-11,29

[onewithhim]

[Replying to onewithhim]

What I have posted is backed up by facts. Some people have trouble with facts because they have blinders on. I repeatedly read Mother Theresa's last words, as they were in most of the news media. She was pitiful. If you looked further into what she did in India, you would find out that she liked to see those poor people suffer, because it made them "more like Jesus," because he suffered. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

This is very sad to hear. Anyone that would call Mother Teresa pitiful truly did not get her. The point you obviously miss is she lived by the words, “Whatever you do for the least of your brothers, you do unto me�. This helped her see Jesus in the poorest of the poor. She was able to see Jesus in those that the world rejected and turned away. That is very different from “wanting to see people suffer�. You must obviously want to see bad in her to see her in such a way. Many hated her devotion and commitment because she was a beautiful witness to the faith. They didn't like knowing that her love was for Christ and His Catholic Church.

Unlike the rest of the world, she saw Jesus in prostitutes and according to the world’s standards the unlovable. What she could offer these poor suffering souls was to let them know they mattered. She gave them dignity, when no one else would touch them with a 10 foot pole. Unfortunately a lot of people like yourself do not understand the simple act of simply giving someone a hug who hasn’t been touched in years. That is what Mother Teresa did. What hatred toward Christ’s Church must someone have to need to see what she did as pitiful? That is a kind of hatred I will never understand.

No, I never wanted to see bad in Mother Teresa. I was shocked to read and hear about her very strange ideas. I never wanted to think of priests as child molesters and nuns as cruel baby-snatchers, just as I didn't want to believe that O.J. killed his wife and Ron Goldman. When cold facts come out, and you hear of such things over and over again, it is foolish to ignore them.


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[RightReason]

[Replying to onewithhim]

No, I never wanted to see bad in Mother Teresa. I was shocked to read and hear about her very strange ideas

Please share some of her “strange ideas� and the sources from which you heard them. We can prove right here and now that your true anti-Catholic colors are showing.

Please share with all of us all the horrible things MT did and all her “strange ideas�. Please share the "cold facts". This ought to be good.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to onewithhim]

No, I never wanted to see bad in Mother Teresa. I was shocked to read and hear about her very strange ideas

Please share some of her “strange ideas� and the sources from which you heard them. We can prove right here and now that your true anti-Catholic colors are showing.

Please share with all of us all the horrible things MT did and all her “strange ideas�. Please share the "cold facts". This ought to be good.

There's so much on this that I had to review just 2 or 3 sources & just list others.

The first is from The Globe and Mail, an article by Adriana Barton. "Mother Teresa was anything but a saint," this article brings out. It suggests that "the nun's approach to caring for the sick was to glorify human suffering instead of relieving it. She was 'penny-pinching with the wealth amassed by her foundation,' says Serge Larivee and colleagues. "The Vatican turned a blind eye to Mother Teresa's 'rather dubious way of caring for the sick, her questionable political contacts, and her suspicious management of the enormous sum of money she received.' Mother Teresa believed the sick must suffer like Christ on the cross." Journalist Christopher Hitchens reported her as saying, "There is something beautiful in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ's Passion. The world gains much from their suffering."

"Doctors visiting many of the 'homes for the dying' run by Mother Teresa observed unhygienic conditions and a shortage of actual care, food and painkillers. Lack of funds was no explanation, since Mother Teresa"s order of the Missionaries of Charity had raised hundreds of millions in aid money. When the nun herself was in need of medical treatment, 'she received it in a modern American hospital,' they point out.

"Former volunteer Hemley Gonzalez spent 2 months working at Nirmal Hriday, a home for the dying run by Mother Teresa's Missionairies of Charity in Calcutta's Kalighat area. He said that 'the horrific remnants of her legacy left him deeply uncomfortable,' and he feels that 'only a troubled individual could have set up the facilities she's responsible for starting.' "


I'm not done with that article yet, but I have to get ready for my Bible meeting at our Kingdom Hall now. I'll continue later.

[RightReason]

[Replying to onewithhim]

There's so much on this that I had to review just 2 or 3 sources & just list others.

First, what are your 2 or 3 sources? And where did you list any others?

The first is from The Globe and Mail, an article by Adriana Barton.

"Mother Teresa was anything but a saint," this article brings out.

Is one of your sources this blogger, Adriana Barton?


This is a joke, right? Some blogger wants some attention by writing an article titled, Mother Teresa was anything but a saint� and you take her words over MT’s actual words? Oh, yes and my favorite part is her article includes a quote from Christopher Hitchens – yeah, no anti-religious ax to grind there – LOL! I love how the article doesn’t even include actual quotes from MT, rather statements saying Journalist Christopher Hitchens reported her as saying, . . . . LOL!

And I think far worse than this article is that there exist people like you who repeat such trash. You seriously ought to be ashamed of yourself. And what did Hitchens report her as saying? Even his paraphrase of what she might have said is hardly incriminating when actual read on its own without his projection onto it. Here’s what he said she said, "There is something beautiful in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ's Passion. The world gains much from their suffering." Now, I doubt she used the words ‘accept their lot’ that sounds very much like some atheist would describe some arrogant self righteous Christian saying. But never the less suppose she did actually say that exact quote Hitchens wrote. That is hardly the same thing as saying she wanted or enjoyed watching people suffer. Good grief! What that quote actually says is what peace she probably was able to witness from those who knew God. They, just like she knew this world is not the end of the story and she’s right there can be much gained from suffering. Every time I am in labor, I imagine myself uniting my suffering with Jesus. I even say things to myself like this next contraction is for my brother-in-law who is out of work, or this contraction is for my Uncle who was just diagnosed with cancer, or whatever. I feel sorry for those who wouldn’t understand similar comments that might have been made by MT. They simply don’t get it. And gotta love how MT was described as being a penny pincher. LOL! Yeah, she took a vow of poverty and obviously like many religious lived the life of a minimalist.

I’ve heard of some of these absurd criticisms about her because I saw the Christopher Hitchens interview about MT years ago. I should have known the only negative thing you would be able to find on her would have been from him. Gotta hand it to Hitchens he was very good at attacking religious people and making a living off it. And there are always people who think throwing money at something is the answer. They don’t want to actually have to look at and take care of these sick people. They just want to feel like they are doing something good. Many of her patients were dying of terminal illnesses and nothing could be done and she recognized that just feeding them and giving them drugs wasn’t what they really needed or truly wanted. She treated the whole patient. She gave them food, medicine, and sooo much more. She gave them dignity. She listened to them. She stayed with them. She hugged them. She told them how important and valuable they were. She was the one THERE with them. She cleaned up their vomit and wiped their noses and asses. Was Christopher Hitchens there? Was Adriana Barton? Did they take the time to give the people she took care of a smile? Of course not, because they thought things like that a waste of time. Just give them morpheme and leave them in the corner to die. Problem solved.

And yes, just like people complain the Catholic Church has soooooo much money, they try to accuse MT’s missionary work of having soooo much money and that it doesn’t go to those who need it. Well, it sure wasn’t going to MT. She lived among the poorest of the poor. She ate rice and water and often gave her portion away to those who needed it more. Again, you really ought to be ashamed of yourself. Just because you don’t understand the work she did or couldn’t do it yourself or hate the Catholic Church don’t be bad mouthing someone else for seeing Christ in others and treating everyone she saw as if they were important as Christ Himself.

Yes, her work made many people uncomfortable because they just couldn’t fathom someone giving up everything for others like that. And no one likes to see a strung out drug addict prostitute with lice in her hair dying from AIDS in need of a bath. It tends to make us uncomfortable. But MT would have bathed her and brushed her hair as she took her last breath.

If you really want to learn about her, I suggest you read the volumes written about her beyond some blog posts and articles by Christopher Hitchens. I have read several really good books on her and encourage you to do so as well. You will get to hear what she really said and did and may even come to understand why.

And if you get a chance, would love to see all those other sources and articles you say you have . . .

[onewithhim]

Gonzalez says he was "appalled at the poor level of hygiene and medical care he saw there. He says the organization didn't vet him or the other volunteers. None had any medical experience or received any training before working at the hospice." ("Vet" means to subject a person or animal to a physical exam or checkup; evaluate.) He claims he "saw nuns routinely reuse needles after washing them in tap water, that clothes--sometimes soiled with urine and feces--and cooking utensils were hand washed side by side in the same room. Patients suffering from respiratory diseases had to bathe in freezing water for one bath," and he claims "there was not a single doctor or medically trained nurse at the hospice. 'It was a scene out of a World War II concentration camp.' He says attempts to raise a red flag or offer to install a water heater were always met with the same response by the nuns. 'We don't do that here. This is the way Jesus wants it, they'd say.'

"Since the group receives millions of dollars in donations from around the world, they say they should use it to build hospitals, schools and to upgrade their facilities. But there's no transparency, and very little information available---on the groups bookkeeping. CNN's request to interview the current head of the organization was declined. 'The funds are coming,' Sister Joan of Arc, head of the children's shelter in Kolkata, told CNN. 'We can feed every hungry mouth every day. It's the miracle of love.' That doesn't satisfy the critics. As a registered charity operating in over 100 countries, they say there needs to be some accountability, as there is with groups such as the Red Cross or Oxfam.

"'Why is this organization not being held to the same standard?' asks Gonzalez. 'They get a free pass because of religion; they get a free pass because of the influence of the Vatican.'"

(March, 2013)





The Universite de Montreal, Windam Rainant-Clark, International Press Attache, March 1, 2013

Further comment on the paper by Larivee and Chenard of the University's Department of Psychoeducation and Carole Senecha of the University of Ottawa's Faculty of Education. The paper was published in the March issue of the Journal of Studies in Religion/Sciences.

The researchers concluded that "her hallowed image, which does not stand up to analysis of the facts, was constructed, and that her beatification was orchestrated by an effective media relations campaign."

"During numerous floods in India or following the explosion of a pesticide plant in Bhopa, she offered numerous prayers and medallions of the Virgin Mary, but no direct or monetary aid. On the other hand, she had no qualms about accepting the Legion of Honour and a grant from the Duvalier dictatorship in Haiti. Millions of dollars were transferred to Mother Teresa's organization's various bank accounts, but most of the accounts were kept secret. Larivee says, "Given the parsimonious management of Mother Teresa's works, one may ask where the millions of dollars for the poorest of the poor have gone."

That concludes the brief notes I have on this particular source. I'll re-examine another one tomorrow.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to onewithhim]

There's so much on this that I had to review just 2 or 3 sources & just list others.

First, what are your 2 or 3 sources? And where did you list any others?

The first is from The Globe and Mail, an article by Adriana Barton.

"Mother Teresa was anything but a saint," this article brings out.

Is one of your sources this blogger, Adriana Barton?


This is a joke, right? Some blogger wants some attention by writing an article titled, Mother Teresa was anything but a saint� and you take her words over MT’s actual words? Oh, yes and my favorite part is her article includes a quote from Christopher Hitchens – yeah, no anti-religious ax to grind there – LOL! I love how the article doesn’t even include actual quotes from MT, rather statements saying Journalist Christopher Hitchens reported her as saying, . . . . LOL!

And I think far worse than this article is that there exist people like you who repeat such trash. You seriously ought to be ashamed of yourself. And what did Hitchens report her as saying? Even his paraphrase of what she might have said is hardly incriminating when actual read on its own without his projection onto it. Here’s what he said she said, "There is something beautiful in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ's Passion. The world gains much from their suffering." Now, I doubt she used the words ‘accept their lot’ that sounds very much like some atheist would describe some arrogant self righteous Christian saying. But never the less suppose she did actually say that exact quote Hitchens wrote. That is hardly the same thing as saying she wanted or enjoyed watching people suffer. Good grief! What that quote actually says is what peace she probably was able to witness from those who knew God. They, just like she knew this world is not the end of the story and she’s right there can be much gained from suffering. Every time I am in labor, I imagine myself uniting my suffering with Jesus. I even say things to myself like this next contraction is for my brother-in-law who is out of work, or this contraction is for my Uncle who was just diagnosed with cancer, or whatever. I feel sorry for those who wouldn’t understand similar comments that might have been made by MT. They simply don’t get it. And gotta love how MT was described as being a penny pincher. LOL! Yeah, she took a vow of poverty and obviously like many religious lived the life of a minimalist.

I’ve heard of some of these absurd criticisms about her because I saw the Christopher Hitchens interview about MT years ago. I should have known the only negative thing you would be able to find on her would have been from him. Gotta hand it to Hitchens he was very good at attacking religious people and making a living off it. And there are always people who think throwing money at something is the answer. They don’t want to actually have to look at and take care of these sick people. They just want to feel like they are doing something good. Many of her patients were dying of terminal illnesses and nothing could be done and she recognized that just feeding them and giving them drugs wasn’t what they really needed or truly wanted. She treated the whole patient. She gave them food, medicine, and sooo much more. She gave them dignity. She listened to them. She stayed with them. She hugged them. She told them how important and valuable they were. She was the one THERE with them. She cleaned up their vomit and wiped their noses and asses. Was Christopher Hitchens there? Was Adriana Barton? Did they take the time to give the people she took care of a smile? Of course not, because they thought things like that a waste of time. Just give them morpheme and leave them in the corner to die. Problem solved.

And yes, just like people complain the Catholic Church has soooooo much money, they try to accuse MT’s missionary work of having soooo much money and that it doesn’t go to those who need it. Well, it sure wasn’t going to MT. She lived among the poorest of the poor. She ate rice and water and often gave her portion away to those who needed it more. Again, you really ought to be ashamed of yourself. Just because you don’t understand the work she did or couldn’t do it yourself or hate the Catholic Church don’t be bad mouthing someone else for seeing Christ in others and treating everyone she saw as if they were important as Christ Himself.

Yes, her work made many people uncomfortable because they just couldn’t fathom someone giving up everything for others like that. And no one likes to see a strung out drug addict prostitute with lice in her hair dying from AIDS in need of a bath. It tends to make us uncomfortable. But MT would have bathed her and brushed her hair as she took her last breath.

If you really want to learn about her, I suggest you read the volumes written about her beyond some blog posts and articles by Christopher Hitchens. I have read several really good books on her and encourage you to do so as well. You will get to hear what she really said and did and may even come to understand why.

And if you get a chance, would love to see all those other sources and articles you say you have . . .

I listed them in my notebook, after looking up where it was that I learned about MT's strange ministry. I intend to use the list for myself at this point, to locate articles that I have read before. I wouldn't call Adriana Barton a "blogger." She wrote an article for The Globe and Mail, which is a Canadian journal or newspaper.

You asked for sources of my information and I'm telling you. I will post info from another source tomorrow. I just posted The Globe and Mail and a "press attache," and I've got other interesting information listed in my notes.

Um, the only negative thing I could find on MT was from Hitchens? Have you read what I posted? (I DID include some of MT's own words. I guess you missed them.)

MT didn't live in luxury, that is true. I heard that she pays off politicians, for whatever reason. I'll see what I can resurrect on that.

I guess you haven't read what I've posted very carefully. I can imagine the volunteers' astonishment at one of her "homes for the dying" when they saw the filthy conditions, and no trained medical staff.

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[RightReason]

[Replying to onewithhim]

That doesn't satisfy the critics. As a registered charity operating in over 100 countries, they say there needs to be some accountability, as there is with groups such as the Red Cross or Oxfam.

Nothing satisfies the critics. Accountability? Yes, where is the accountability from those sacrificing their lives, living among the poorest of the poor, and helping others. LOL!

The organization did not need to be taken over by those who think they know better, but wouldn’t have dared to do what these nuns are doing. You realize you don’t need to be a doctor to give these people what they needed. MT would not compromise their mission of helping which included not only providing medical aid, food, and medicine, but also included spreading love and the Gospel. Lots of people don’t like that last part. They think it silly useless nonsense. MT had her priorities right. It’s very fascinating to me that you don’t see that. I must suggest again it is your anti-Catholic bigotry that prevents you from understanding MT and her mission of living the gospel.

The researchers concluded that "her hallowed image, which does not stand up to analysis of the facts, was constructed, and that her beatification was orchestrated by an effective media relations campaign."

Wow! For real? Such speculative tabloid material. To what end? For what purpose? Money? LOL! Who was getting rich? I know who probably made a nice chunk – those who wrote articles like this. Everyone loves to “expose� good Holy people, especially the Catholic Church.

"During numerous floods in India or following the explosion of a pesticide plant in Bhopa, she offered numerous prayers and medallions of the Virgin Mary, but no direct or monetary aid. On the other hand, she had no qualms about accepting the Legion of Honour and a grant from the Duvalier dictatorship in Haiti

Just like any charitable organization they couldn’t help everyone and their purpose was not necessarily in flood relief. I have no doubt the Catholic Church had other groups who collected funds to help with other issues going on in India, seeing how the Catholic Church is the world’s largest charitable organization. But MT’s mission focused on those left to die in the streets. She probably didn’t do a whole lot to help educate the children of India either, but again that wasn’t her mission. She was to give the sick care and dignity in their last days.

And if you knew anything about MT, you would know she hated receiving awards, whether they came from respectable organizations or not. She was very humble and would have rather remained always among her patients in India, but of course was highly sought after to give an occasional talk or receive an award. I’m pretty sure she would have had to have remained on good terms with those rulers of the foreign countries she was attempting to help as well. Not easy to try to be living in places and helping people if the country refuses to allow you to be there. But yeah, because someone gave her some award, let’s slander her name and suggest she was a Communist working with dictators. This is really sad One. Really sad. I am however starting to realize how you can be so gullible to believe your JW organization and all it tells you. You don’t seem to be too interested in going to better sources and getting the facts.

Um, the only negative thing I could find on MT was from Hitchens? Have you read what I posted? (I DID include some of MT's own words. I guess you missed them.)

Yes I did. All of it. Did you? Like I said, even the one “quote� you listed to have come from MT wasn’t even confirmed as coming from her. Rather your author said, “as reported from Christopher Hitchens� LOL!!

I read books that said how often MT was misquoted and her comments taken out of context – in particular the piece Hitchens wrote on her.

I guess you haven't read what I've posted very carefully. I can imagine the volunteers' astonishment at one of her "homes for the dying" when they saw the filthy conditions, and no trained medical staff.

No, I guess you couldn’t. I am assuming you have never been in a third world country and realized the living conditions there are rough. Just because someone goes over there to set up camp as a hospice does not mean they will have access to clean running water, air conditioning, unlimited power supply and state of the art technology. You get that, right? Yes, I have no doubt if someone from the west were to step inside one of her hospitals they would be shocked. That’s what we call First World Ignorance!

Just as I suspected all you post is trash talk and nothing more. Please read one of the many books written about her to get a more accurate view. You owe it to yourself.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to onewithhim]

That doesn't satisfy the critics. As a registered charity operating in over 100 countries, they say there needs to be some accountability, as there is with groups such as the Red Cross or Oxfam.

Nothing satisfies the critics. Accountability? Yes, where is the accountability from those sacrificing their lives, living among the poorest of the poor, and helping others. LOL!

The organization did not need to be taken over by those who think they know better, but wouldn’t have dared to do what these nuns are doing. You realize you don’t need to be a doctor to give these people what they needed. MT would not compromise their mission of helping which included not only providing medical aid, food, and medicine, but also included spreading love and the Gospel. Lots of people don’t like that last part. They think it silly useless nonsense. MT had her priorities right. It’s very fascinating to me that you don’t see that. I must suggest again it is your anti-Catholic bigotry that prevents you from understanding MT and her mission of living the gospel.

The researchers concluded that "her hallowed image, which does not stand up to analysis of the facts, was constructed, and that her beatification was orchestrated by an effective media relations campaign."

Wow! For real? Such speculative tabloid material. To what end? For what purpose? Money? LOL! Who was getting rich? I know who probably made a nice chunk – those who wrote articles like this. Everyone loves to “expose� good Holy people, especially the Catholic Church.

"During numerous floods in India or following the explosion of a pesticide plant in Bhopa, she offered numerous prayers and medallions of the Virgin Mary, but no direct or monetary aid. On the other hand, she had no qualms about accepting the Legion of Honour and a grant from the Duvalier dictatorship in Haiti

Just like any charitable organization they couldn’t help everyone and their purpose was not necessarily in flood relief. I have no doubt the Catholic Church had other groups who collected funds to help with other issues going on in India, seeing how the Catholic Church is the world’s largest charitable organization. But MT’s mission focused on those left to die in the streets. She probably didn’t do a whole lot to help educate the children of India either, but again that wasn’t her mission. She was to give the sick care and dignity in their last days.

And if you knew anything about MT, you would know she hated receiving awards, whether they came from respectable organizations or not. She was very humble and would have rather remained always among her patients in India, but of course was highly sought after to give an occasional talk or receive an award. I’m pretty sure she would have had to have remained on good terms with those rulers of the foreign countries she was attempting to help as well. Not easy to try to be living in places and helping people if the country refuses to allow you to be there. But yeah, because someone gave her some award, let’s slander her name and suggest she was a Communist working with dictators. This is really sad One. Really sad. I am however starting to realize how you can be so gullible to believe your JW organization and all it tells you. You don’t seem to be too interested in going to better sources and getting the facts.

Um, the only negative thing I could find on MT was from Hitchens? Have you read what I posted? (I DID include some of MT's own words. I guess you missed them.)

Yes I did. All of it. Did you? Like I said, even the one “quote� you listed to have come from MT wasn’t even confirmed as coming from her. Rather your author said, “as reported from Christopher Hitchens� LOL!!

I read books that said how often MT was misquoted and her comments taken out of context – in particular the piece Hitchens wrote on her.

I guess you haven't read what I've posted very carefully. I can imagine the volunteers' astonishment at one of her "homes for the dying" when they saw the filthy conditions, and no trained medical staff.

No, I guess you couldn’t. I am assuming you have never been in a third world country and realized the living conditions there are rough. Just because someone goes over there to set up camp as a hospice does not mean they will have access to clean running water, air conditioning, unlimited power supply and state of the art technology. You get that, right? Yes, I have no doubt if someone from the west were to step inside one of her hospitals they would be shocked. That’s what we call First World Ignorance!

Just as I suspected all you post is trash talk and nothing more. Please read one of the many books written about her to get a more accurate view. You owe it to yourself.

Look, RR, you asked me from what sources I got the information that Mother Teresa was not the saint she was regaled to be. I am simply honoring your request. To attack me is not productive in any way. These many articles that I refer to were written by journalists for well-known news-media and even physicians who had direct contact with the Missionaries of Charity. I guess you thought I couldn't come up with anything, but there is a plethora of information on this.

Why don't you sympathize with the poorest of the poor dying in pain with no hot water for baths, no medicine except aspirin, filthy blankets, dirty needles, having to defecate in front of everybody else, and eating off dishes that were washed in the same sink as the dirty clothes?


Here is information from The Washington Post, by Adam Taylor, Sept. 2016:

"The controversy surrounding Mother Teresa is far from new. Her saintly reputation was gained for aiding Kolkata's poorest of the poor, yet it was undercut by persistent allegations of misuse of funds and poor medical treatments in the institutions she founded.

"Aroup Chatterjee, an Indian-born British physician and writer who had worked briefly in one of Teresa's charitable homes, reported concentration camp-like conditions in the facilities of her Missionaries of Charity in Kolkata.

"The British medical journal The Lancet published a critical account of the care in Teresa's facilities in 1994, and an academic Canadian study from 2013 found fault with 'her rather dubious way of caring for the sick, her questionable political contacts, and her suspicious management of the enormous sums of money she received."


From The New York Times of August 26, 2016:

"A Critic's Lonely Quest: Revealing the Whole Truth About Mother Teresa"

"Dr. Aroup Chatterjee, a native of Kolkata, found himself bothered by the narrative surrounding Mother Teresa, beginning with the city's depiction as one of the most desperate places on earth, a 'black hole.' He had been raised in middle-class Ballygunge, and his experience was moneyed cosmopolitan. Kolkata, the capital of the British Indian Empire for nearly 140 years, was considered one of India's crown jewels. When the British moved their headquarters to Delhi in 1911, Dr. Chatterjee acknowledged, the city began a slow decline in international prestige. He worked for a political party in the '70s and '80s while studying at Kolkata Medical College, sleeping in nearby slums. He interned for a year, regularly seeing patients from one of the city's 'most dire' red-light districts. 'We used to see very serious abuse of women and children quite often,' he said. 'I never saw any nuns in those slums that I worked in,' he said. 'I just thought that the myth had to be challenged.'


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[onewithhim]

"Over hundreds of hours of research, Dr. Chatterjee said he found a 'cult of suffering' in homes run by Teresa's organization, the Missionaries of Charity, with children tied to beds and little to comfort dying patients but aspirin.

"He and others said that Teresa took frugality and simplicity to extremes, allowing practices like the re-use of hypodermic needles and tolerating primitive facilities that required patients to defecate in front of one another.

"Throughout 1995 Dr. Chatterjee traveled the world meeting with volunteers, nuns and writers who were familiar with the Missionaries of Charity. In over a hundred interviews, Dr. Chatterjee heard volunteers describe how workers with limited medical training administered ten- to twenty-year old medicines to patients, and blankets stained with feces were washed in the same sink used to clean dishes.

"Dr. Chaterjee agreed that after Teresa's death in 1997, homes run by the Missionaries of Charity began taking their hygiene practices more seriously. The re-use of needles, he said, was eliminated."



OK, so what does all of this show? A Catholic icon did not deem honesty and compassion very serious characteristics to evince. Her strange ways included seeing the sick as beautifully demonstrating the suffering similar to Christ's suffering, and that it should be embraced to the extent that they continued to suffer, extolling the bare agony that Christ experienced.

This is documented by MANY journalists, physicians, volunteers and even other nuns. I have presented several well-known expositors, of the media, and not merely unknown "bloggers."

1) The Globe and Mail
2) CNN
3) The Washington Post
4) The New York Post
5) The Lancet


These are just the media that I have briefly alluded to and quoted from here. There are many more sources, such as articles by Anirudh Bhattacharyya (March 18, 2013), with the theme "I don't think she deserved the Nobel" and Malika Kapar & Sugam Pokharel (9/7/16), CNN, "Troubled Individual."




I have presented the facts as ascertained by multiple personell who have been elbow-to-elbow with the workers of the Missionaries of Charity, and if others do not want to take all of that seriously, so be it.

What does it mean in the long-run to turn a blind eye to such a diminishing of true Christian charity? Why do people not stand accountable for their heinous deeds? What is the motive of an influential institution like the Vatican, to continue to promote an individual who exhibited high disregard for the people who were actually suffering, and danced around with nefarious world politicians? I ask these questions, but it seems that the majority of people would rather have their white-washed icons. This is simply what I see, and I don't see any reason to call all those people liars, who have spoken out about Mother Teresa.


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[RightReason]

[Replying to onewithhim]

What you have posted is a joke. Your “many� critics of MT are not so many. Even your initial critic was simply responding to Christopher Hitchen’s criticism. She did not go to India nor did she ever meet MT. Her remarks are based off of Hitchen’s remarks, who we all know has an ax to grind. And some of your other sources are doing the same thing. They are simply reporting on these very few reports criticizing MT. To view anything that you have posted as honorable journalism is a joke.

MT had many more supporters than she did critics.

Among the 124 Awards Received

Padmashree Award (from the President of India) August 1962
Pope John XXIII Peace Prize January 1971
John F. Kennedy International Award September 1971
Jawahalal Nehru Award for International Understanding November 1972
Templeton Prize for "Progress in Religion" April 1973
Nobel Peace Prize December 1979
Bharat Ratna (Jewel of India) March 1980
Order of Merit (from Queen Elizabeth) November 1983
Gold Medal of the Soviet Peace Committee August 1987
United States Congressional Gold Medal June 1997

Most of what you posted was the same thing recycled in a few different articles, but all from the same few individuals who issued the complaint in the first place.

Hospitals in 3rd world countries will never meet the standards we would expect here in the western world. It reminds me of some of the comments I heard when choosing to give birth to 3 of my children at home. Critics and naysayers would gasp at the thought of not being in a sterile hospital. They would question that one could safely give birth at home because it wasn’t how they pictured giving birth in their head.

My bedroom clearly did not have the equipment, the medicine or drugs, or medical specialist that they thought necessary and vital. Therefore they judged my situation as risky/unsafe/or even negligent. Just because I chose a different route than the majority did not make my way wrong or bad and their way right or better. Despite thinking otherwise, MT was able to care for and provide for her patients and give them what they needed. And IMO probably did so far better than any state of the art high tech hospital could have, because she added love to her services.

Some of my reasons for choosing homebirth were to have nothing get in the way of that initial bonding with my baby and to have my whole family more a part of the beautiful miracle occurring at that moment. I wasn’t being careless or putting anyone at risk. I did my homework. I had excellent pre natal care and knew if there was any risk to having my baby at home. With that in mind I chose what I did because in my opinion it enabled me to give my child what I thought was important. MT was doing the very same thing. Maybe a home birth wouldn’t have been right for you or something you wouldn’t have chosen or felt was important. That’s fine. But don’t bash MT for actually doing what she felt was important and the way she felt it ought to be done. She was there helping. If you felt she should have been skipping the witness to Christ and amping up the morpheme drip instead that is entirely your opinion, but you have to at least give her credit for taking action, sacrificing, and doing something about a problem that no one else seemed to be too concerned about.

I also would add that sounds like you have no understanding about her thoughts and views on suffering. In no way did she wish to see others suffer. She merely was stating the truth that the world often fails to see the meaning in suffering and if you can’t understand the difference then you simply will never understand what MT or Christ was trying to do.