Inventing a character with the magical ability to do things

[rikuoamero]

In a recent thread of mine, John Human said the following

However, there was continued bleeding, and Ancient Demon knew that Jesus could potentially lose too much blood. So Ancient Demon entered the body of Jesus and made a point of affecting the blood vessels to make them constrict. This had the result of ensuring that Jesus didn’t bleed to death.

So this is a claim. That Jesus didn't die on the cross, that he only appeared to be dead. How did he survive? An "Ancient Demon", apparently invisible to all at the crowd, somehow entered the body of Jesus, and magically constricted the blood vessels, thus preventing a loss of too much blood.
John did not provide evidence to support this claim of his. He might as well have made it all up, but this is what he did. He has a belief that Jesus didn't die, and to support that belief, he imagines a character with all the magical supernatural abilities necessary to accomplish it.
I'd like to ask the site's resident Christians how this is anything different to what they believe. When they say God created the world, created the universe, resurrected Jesus, that Jesus resurrecting is the only viable explanation for the origin of Christianity etc., how is inventing a character with all the magical supernatural abilities but no evidence of those abilities anything different to what John Human did here? If you disbelieve JH about his Ancient Demon, if you scoff at the thought of a supernatural entity casting illusions and deceiving people...how is it you are sure you yourselves are not deceived, or deceiving yourselves?

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 1 by rikuoamero]

I think that Muslims believe Jesus didnt really die so maybe this individual is Muslim. None of us were there at the time so its all a matter of who one chooses to believe. I believe the bible writers who testify Jesus most certainly did die. And rosr again from death (not from a comma), three days later.


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[1213]

[rikuoamero]

[1213]

[ttruscott]

[Replying to post 1 by rikuoamero]

I think that Muslims believe Jesus didnt really die so maybe this individual is Muslim. None of us were there at the time so its all a matter of who one chooses to believe. I believe the bible writers who testify Jesus most certainly did die. And rosr again from death (not from a comma), three days later. JW

This sounds like you believe in His physical resurrection the same as other Christians...is this true? I thought WTS doctrine was His resurrection was a spirit only resurrection.

[rikuoamero]

[Replying to post 5 by 1213]

For me much more important is the words Jesus said. The superpowers were for the people who were with Jesus. And because we have the Bible, Jesus was pretty convincing for them, else I don’t think we would have the Bible.

Argumentum ad populum. You keep doing this, over and over on this site. Keep making incredibly simple arguments, that because people believed it, because some people were convinced, therefore it's true.
Why is it you cannot understand the concept of falsehoods? Of liars, legends or cheats? Of exaggerations? Your comment there up above just ignores all those possibilities.

I think one evidence for Jesus superpowers is that we still have his words, as he said then, and people have not managed to destroy them, even though many have tried.

We have the words of the Prophet Muhammed, yet I don't see you believing that he flew on a winged horse.
Just because words and writings exist, doesn't mean what they say is true.

It is about from where the information is. The witness testimonies in the Bible, are allegedly from people who saw the things

Allegedly. Until you show that it is not allegedly, that is all you can say. At least you're being honest about that much.

The question is in this case only about what the source is. And in the case of the John Humans claim, It doesn’t seem to have anything that could come even close to what Bible has.

Why not? John Human actually names his source. It's the Ancient Demon, who was there 2,000 years ago. The Gospel writers don't name their sources.
At least today, you and I can talk to John Human. Can you do that with the authors of Bible books?

But is isn’t it easier to think somebody is king, if some people keep him as their king?

This doesn't make him their king. There are some people who believe that Trump rigged the 2016 US election, and wanted Hilary to win. They say Hilary was or should be their president.
Just because you, or a group of other people, say that Man X is Political Title Y, doesn't make it so for all people. Your logic is that because you believe Jesus to be the Messiah...therefore he is.

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