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Cornavirus why did god create it

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Why did God create a new virus to kill people? This is a question for any Christain that believes in the Noah myth or creationism. Because if either is true then God did create this virus and did it to kill people.

Also, why does God allow this virus when he could wave his wand and get rid of it?

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[Replying to post 33 by Athetotheist]

My belief means is that God is not bound to anything. There is no right and wrong aside from Him that He must conform too. He alone is the source of everything. Whatever gods may exist or not must conform to Him. No I dont believe in the greek gods ect but that is a different topic.

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TheGreatDebate wrote: [Replying to post 33 by Athetotheist]

My belief means is that God is not bound to anything. There is no right and wrong aside from Him that He must conform too. He alone is the source of everything. Whatever gods may exist or not must conform to Him. No I dont believe in the greek gods ect but that is a different topic.
Let's think about this:

As a Christian, you believe in a being known as Satan. You believe that Satan is evil because Jesus said that he is. Also, believing what the Christian Bible says, you believe that Satan was cast out of heaven because he wanted to be God.

From your perspective, why shouldn't Satan be God? Do you believe that Satan would have a right to take God's place if he were simply powerful enough to do so? Is "might makes right" the maxim of the moral universe?

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TheGreatDebate wrote: [Replying to post 18 by Willum]

You are correct. God is not good. Good is whatever He determines it to be. Morality is simply His opinion.
I presume that you, as a Christian, believe in a being known as Satan. I presume that you believe that Satan is not good, and I presume that you believe Satan was cast out of heaven because he wanted to be God.

From your perspective, why shouldn't Satan be God? Would Satan have a right to replace God if he simply had the power to do so? Would morality then be determined by Satan's opinion?

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What happened to the discussion about God creating coronavirus to kill humans?

I have not heard a good augment from creationists and non evolutionists on how it was created.

Also, why doesn't pray cure people of it?

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TheGreatDebate wrote: My belief means is that God is not bound to anything. There is no right and wrong aside from Him that He must conform too. He alone is the source of everything. Whatever gods may exist or not must conform to Him.
"Because ancient writers said so" -- Right?

Those ancient writers also knew about the cause of disease, drought, flood, storm, crop failure, etc. Right? How has that "knowledge" stood the test of time?

Preachers and pew warmers know about gods because they read what ancients wrote. Right?
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ANY of the thousands of "gods" proposed, imagined, worshiped, loved, feared, and/or fought over by humans MAY exist -- awaiting verifiable evidence

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What Are The Odds?" - A Timeline Of Facts Linking Covid-19, HIV, & Wuhan's Secret Bio-Lab

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... et-bio-lab


You can thank evil Scientists for the virus

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[Replying to post 45 by Yahwehismywitness]

Here we go down the ribbit hole. Any one want tine hats because the aliens are reading our minds?

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[Replying to post 20 by Purple Knight]

Because the Christian God established slavery, rape, genocide as justifiable.

That's pretty evil.

The way he treats his chosen people is atrocious.
The way he treats his non-chosen people is poor too.

He drowned a planet because he lacked foresight.

I can go on and on why God is evil.

So, again, if you waive the assumption God is good, his creation of cornavirus makes sense.
I will never understand how someone who claims to know the ultimate truth, of God, believes they deserve respect, when they cannot distinguish it from a fairy-tale.

You know, science and logic are hard: Religion and fairy tales might be more your speed.

To continue to argue for the Hebrew invention of God is actually an insult to the very concept of a God. - Divine Insight

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Donray wrote:Why did God create a new virus to kill people?


What makes you think that the God created this virus? Can you prove this? The truth is that man has created many viruses, such as:

* a virus related to smallpox, which is called horsepox.

* scientists at the State University of New York have created a deadly artificial virus by buying DNA pieces via mail order. This time, it is polio"and it is as potent as the natural one.

* Some Dutch scientists have created a mutant and deadlier version of the already-lethal bird flu. Natural bird flu is not easily transmitted among humans. However, the researchers altered it so that it could be!

* It is no secret that the source of the coronavirus originated in a town in China, where a scientific lab is located! Coincidence? I don't think so

These above are only, but a few examples

Also, evolutionist believe that viruses play a role in natural selection, thus from their perspective viruses are natural

What about the fallen angels? Is it possible that they could be the source of viruses? It seems clear that they are the enemies of mankind and may use viruses to disrupt our wellbeing!

So, other possibilities could be: man, evolution (for those who believe in this theory) and fallen angels.
Donray wrote:Also, why does God allow this virus when he could wave his wand and get rid of it?


Well, it seems that God did, just not the way that you have suggestedThe scientific advancements over the last 100 years (in the field of human health) has surpassed any and all presumed expectations. Hence, the knowledge that God has given the scientists will allow them to create a vaccineThis blessing from God should be acknowledged! Yet, it has been shown that "some men" have used God's blessings of knowledge and have turned this wisdom into curses. Why is that?

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Donray wrote: So God is the source of ALL evil. That would mean the God is evil. God created the devil and hell. God created the black death and wiped out about half the population of Europe.
God created birth defects. What could possibly be more evil than that?
Image "The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this." -- Albert Einstein -- Written in 1954 to Jewish philosopher Erik Gutkind.

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