Will Western religions ever be the same after corronavirus?

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Will Western religions ever be the same after corronavirus?

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AGAIN, another proof that the Abrahamic religions have been dissed in the face of the corronavirus fierce outbreaks in Europe and the US, by "God(s)" in favor of Eastern faiths!

Anyone care to discuss the disparity of cases and deaths in China and Hong Kong compared with what's happening in the West?
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Zzyzx wrote: .
Charles wrote: How can an event that fulfills all Christian prophecy that the pagan nations are / will be punished on earth be seen as a contradiction to Christianity??
That is an example of a grandiose 'prophesy' that is so vague as to be meaningless. 'Punishment' of nations can be taken to mean nearly any negative event -- and all nations encounter negative events.

That is no more significant than 'prophesying' that water in the liquid form will be wet
Non-squitor...does not address my question.

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2Dbunk wrote: [Replying to post 7 by Charles]

Who are you classifying as pagan: Western Christianity or the Eastern religions?
Pagan in Christian terms, "is used, today, to signify people who do not believe in the monotheistic god, YHWH, of Christianity, Judaism. It is used much like "heathen." It also refers to pantheists and neo-pagans."

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Charles wrote: [Replying to post 1 by 2Dbunk]

How can an event that fulfills all Christian prophecy that the pagan nations are / will be punished on earth be seen as a contradiction to Christianity?? <headshake, facepalm>
As of the news today, the U.S. has more reported deaths due to coronavirus than any other country:
  • More than 20,000 people have died from the coronavirus in the United States, which now has more reported deaths than any country in the world, according to a tally from Johns Hopkins University.

    The US death toll on Saturday climbed to 20,389, surpassing that of Italy, which is reporting 19,468 deaths, per Johns Hopkins.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/11/health/u ... index.html
The U.S. also has more Christians than any other nation: Italy, which has also suffered many coronavirus deaths, has a population that includes a high percentage of Christians: Are these facts accounted for in the "Christian prophecy" you claim accounts for the COVID-19 pandemic?


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[Replying to post 13 by Tcg]

More breaking news:
  • The US just became the first country in the world to record more than 2,000 coronavirus deaths in 24 hours

    The US is the first country to report more than 2,000 deaths from the coronavirus in a single day.

    2,108 people lost their lives on Friday, according to data collated by researchers at Johns Hopkins University.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/us-2000 ... ark-2020-4
Perhaps God is confused about which nations are pagan.


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otseng wrote:
BTW, surprised that any skeptic would disagree that the West is post-Christian.
You shouldn't be given that I can't drive two miles from my Midwestern house without seeing a Christian church. Give me five miles and I can find three.

I'd have to pretend this reality was a mirage to agree that the U.S. is post-Christian. Christianity may be waning in the U.S., but it is still the predominant religion. This predominance undoubtedly is a reflection of the world view of both the citizens and government officials of my country.

One day that may change, but it hasn't changed yet.


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Tcg wrote: You shouldn't be given that I can't drive two miles from my Midwestern house without seeing a Christian church. Give me five miles and I can find three.
In my area of rural Arkansas there are twenty (20) churches within five miles (verified by Google). That includes a small town of 5000 population.

Within five minutes of first meeting a person you can almost count on being asked what church you attend and/or hearing some reference to 'God'.
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2Dbunk wrote: AGAIN, another proof that the Abrahamic religions have been dissed in the face of the corronavirus fierce outbreaks in Europe and the US, by "God(s)" in favor of Eastern faiths!...
By what I know, the total number of all deaths per day has decreased during this fake China virus pandemic. But, obviously the problem with all this is that we dont really know actual numbers.
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2Dbunk wrote: AGAIN, another proof that the Abrahamic religions have been dissed in the face of the corronavirus fierce outbreaks in Europe and the US, by "God(s)" in favor of Eastern faiths!

Anyone care to discuss the disparity of cases and deaths in China and Hong Kong compared with what's happening in the West?
2dbunk,

If you're an atheist, why would you attribute any "real" impact to religions? Are you saying that Eastern prayers had "real" impact on reducing infections or recovering from the virus? Can you support any of your claims with verifiable evidence.

If it's not really about prayer, then please explain what your topic has to do with the Christian religion.

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1213 wrote: By what I know, the total number of all deaths per day has decreased
What you know? Based on WHAT? Where?

There are alternative statistics
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... test-news/
https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-be ... er-1495607
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... =homeAdUOA?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/11/health/u ... index.html
1213 wrote: during this fake China virus pandemic.
FAKE? Is there a worldwide conspiracy to FAKE the Coronavirus pandemic? By whom? What is the evidence?

The world soared past the 1 million mark in confirmed coronavirus cases,
Worldwide, the death toll approached 53,000
U.S. death toll topped 6,000
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/hea ... 107445002/
1213 wrote: But, obviously the problem with all this is that we dont really know actual numbers.
Yes, the actual numbers of infected and killed are likely to be HIGHER rather than lower. Many who are sick and who die are not tested for presence of the virus.

As always, thank you for presenting readers with a religionist's perspective on these matters.
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[Replying to post 19 by Zzyzx]

It seems a lot of people have ducked and dodged the premise behind the topic.

Can you backup any of the statements in the Op? Do you have verifiable evidence that Eastern prayers led to a decrease in infections or an increase in recoveries in Eastern countries?

if all of us knows the answer to this then why was this topic started to begin with?

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