AGAIN, another proof that the Abrahamic religions have been dissed in the face of the corronavirus fierce outbreaks in Europe and the US, by "God(s)" in favor of Eastern faiths!
Anyone care to discuss the disparity of cases and deaths in China and Hong Kong compared with what's happening in the West?
Will Western religions ever be the same after corronavirus?
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Post #1What good is truth if its value is not more than unproven, handed-down faith?
One believes things because one is conditioned to believe them. -Aldous Huxley
Fear within the Religious will always be with them ... as long as they are fearful of death.
One believes things because one is conditioned to believe them. -Aldous Huxley
Fear within the Religious will always be with them ... as long as they are fearful of death.
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Post #11Non-squitor...does not address my question.Zzyzx wrote: .That is an example of a grandiose 'prophesy' that is so vague as to be meaningless. 'Punishment' of nations can be taken to mean nearly any negative event -- and all nations encounter negative events.Charles wrote: How can an event that fulfills all Christian prophecy that the pagan nations are / will be punished on earth be seen as a contradiction to Christianity??
That is no more significant than 'prophesying' that water in the liquid form will be wet
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Post #12Pagan in Christian terms, "is used, today, to signify people who do not believe in the monotheistic god, YHWH, of Christianity, Judaism. It is used much like "heathen." It also refers to pantheists and neo-pagans."2Dbunk wrote: [Replying to post 7 by Charles]
Who are you classifying as pagan: Western Christianity or the Eastern religions?
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Post #13As of the news today, the U.S. has more reported deaths due to coronavirus than any other country:Charles wrote: [Replying to post 1 by 2Dbunk]
How can an event that fulfills all Christian prophecy that the pagan nations are / will be punished on earth be seen as a contradiction to Christianity?? <headshake, facepalm>
- More than 20,000 people have died from the coronavirus in the United States, which now has more reported deaths than any country in the world, according to a tally from Johns Hopkins University.
The US death toll on Saturday climbed to 20,389, surpassing that of Italy, which is reporting 19,468 deaths, per Johns Hopkins.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/11/health/u ... index.html
- In terms of how many Christians reside in a nation, the United States leads the pack with approximately 230 million.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... countries/
- According to the 2012 Global Religious Landscape survey by the Pew Research Center (a think tank in the United States), 83.3% of the country's residents are Christians...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Italy
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Post #14[Replying to post 13 by Tcg]
More breaking news:
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More breaking news:
- The US just became the first country in the world to record more than 2,000 coronavirus deaths in 24 hours
The US is the first country to report more than 2,000 deaths from the coronavirus in a single day.
2,108 people lost their lives on Friday, according to data collated by researchers at Johns Hopkins University.
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-2000 ... ark-2020-4
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Post #15You shouldn't be given that I can't drive two miles from my Midwestern house without seeing a Christian church. Give me five miles and I can find three.
I'd have to pretend this reality was a mirage to agree that the U.S. is post-Christian. Christianity may be waning in the U.S., but it is still the predominant religion. This predominance undoubtedly is a reflection of the world view of both the citizens and government officials of my country.
One day that may change, but it hasn't changed yet.
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Post #16.
Within five minutes of first meeting a person you can almost count on being asked what church you attend and/or hearing some reference to 'God'.
In my area of rural Arkansas there are twenty (20) churches within five miles (verified by Google). That includes a small town of 5000 population.Tcg wrote: You shouldn't be given that I can't drive two miles from my Midwestern house without seeing a Christian church. Give me five miles and I can find three.
Within five minutes of first meeting a person you can almost count on being asked what church you attend and/or hearing some reference to 'God'.
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Post #17By what I know, the total number of all deaths per day has decreased during this fake China virus pandemic. But, obviously the problem with all this is that we dont really know actual numbers.2Dbunk wrote: AGAIN, another proof that the Abrahamic religions have been dissed in the face of the corronavirus fierce outbreaks in Europe and the US, by "God(s)" in favor of Eastern faiths!...
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Post #182dbunk,2Dbunk wrote: AGAIN, another proof that the Abrahamic religions have been dissed in the face of the corronavirus fierce outbreaks in Europe and the US, by "God(s)" in favor of Eastern faiths!
Anyone care to discuss the disparity of cases and deaths in China and Hong Kong compared with what's happening in the West?
If you're an atheist, why would you attribute any "real" impact to religions? Are you saying that Eastern prayers had "real" impact on reducing infections or recovering from the virus? Can you support any of your claims with verifiable evidence.
If it's not really about prayer, then please explain what your topic has to do with the Christian religion.
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Post #19.
There are alternative statistics
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... test-news/
https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-be ... er-1495607
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... =homeAdUOA?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/11/health/u ... index.html
The world soared past the 1 million mark in confirmed coronavirus cases,
Worldwide, the death toll approached 53,000
U.S. death toll topped 6,000
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/hea ... 107445002/
As always, thank you for presenting readers with a religionist's perspective on these matters.
What you know? Based on WHAT? Where?1213 wrote: By what I know, the total number of all deaths per day has decreased
There are alternative statistics
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... test-news/
https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-be ... er-1495607
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... =homeAdUOA?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/11/health/u ... index.html
FAKE? Is there a worldwide conspiracy to FAKE the Coronavirus pandemic? By whom? What is the evidence?1213 wrote: during this fake China virus pandemic.
The world soared past the 1 million mark in confirmed coronavirus cases,
Worldwide, the death toll approached 53,000
U.S. death toll topped 6,000
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/hea ... 107445002/
Yes, the actual numbers of infected and killed are likely to be HIGHER rather than lower. Many who are sick and who die are not tested for presence of the virus.1213 wrote: But, obviously the problem with all this is that we dont really know actual numbers.
As always, thank you for presenting readers with a religionist's perspective on these matters.
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Post #20[Replying to post 19 by Zzyzx]
It seems a lot of people have ducked and dodged the premise behind the topic.
Can you backup any of the statements in the Op? Do you have verifiable evidence that Eastern prayers led to a decrease in infections or an increase in recoveries in Eastern countries?
if all of us knows the answer to this then why was this topic started to begin with?
It seems a lot of people have ducked and dodged the premise behind the topic.
Can you backup any of the statements in the Op? Do you have verifiable evidence that Eastern prayers led to a decrease in infections or an increase in recoveries in Eastern countries?
if all of us knows the answer to this then why was this topic started to begin with?

