Why does God need help?

[Menotu]

It's an old question, but let's revisit it:
Why does God apparently need help?

He created the whole of everything, but can't build his own church building? Can't pay the light bill?
Write his own book?
Needs people to go out and spread his name?
Needs doctors to save the lives of his people?

Throughout history, many things that were considered 'of God' have been replaced with knowledge of ourselves and environment.

But some claim that God needs nothing (though it can be argued he needs worship), and yet, it's the doctors that tend to save more lives and God; it's the engineers that build the churches; it's the family what protects the children.

Where is God? Why doesn't he have a much more active, apparent role in these things?
Or are we gradually replacing God in everyday life, leaving him only for the mystical?

[JehovahsWitness]

God is omnipotent, he is described in the bible as Almighty (having all power), thus he doesnt need anything or anyone to to help or assist him achieve his goals.

But you know this isn't true.

Please dont tell me what I know or I dont know. Unless you are employing mind reading powers I cannot imagine how you could know anything about me outside what I tell you I know and I don't come here to read personal remarks. Come now, should we not concentrate on the post rather than the poster?


JW

[Menotu]

I would doubt any being that's eternal can be irritated by anything.

Getting angry enough to flood the entire world would seem to remain within his purview, though.

This god needs help with anger management more than anything, I reckon.

Anytime an all knowing entity is said to get angry over anything it should raise eyebrows with concern. Why did it not know what was coming? Or did it choose not to know so it would be surprised? While that sounds silly, it's also not possible, unless, this all knowing entity isn't all knowing at all. At which point, everything said about it is questionable

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… and yet, it's the doctors that tend to save more lives …

Don’t all people die eventually? I don’t think doctors save lives.

[Menotu]

… and yet, it's the doctors that tend to save more lives …

Don’t all people die eventually? I don’t think doctors save lives.

Really?
Doctors don't save lives?
That's a new one on me
Everyone dies?
True
I guess that's yet another excuse for God

[tam]

Peace to you,

It's an old question, but let's revisit it:
Why does God apparently need help?

He does not need help. We do.

He created the whole of everything, but can't build his own church building?

He is building His own Church "building". Beginning with His Son (the cornerstone), who is also the rock upon whom the foundation is built (who is also the Head of the Church, which is His Body, which is the Temple); then the apostles (the foundation) and all those who belong to His Son (living stones; pillars; etc).

Can't pay the light bill?

There is no need to pay a light bill because Christ is the Light; God gives the Church her light.

Write his own book?

He sends His Word (who is Christ) and we are to listen to Him. Sometimes the person who hears has been told to write what they heard (such as the Revelation; the Psalms; the Prophets; Moses). That is for the benefit of those who need to see - who yet walk by sight, and do not (or are still learning) to walk by faith.


If a parent places training wheels on a bicycle, do we say the parent needs training wheels? Or is the parent giving the child something the child needs?

Needs people to go out and spread his name?

He does not need that. Some people may need it to be done; perhaps because they are yet walking by sight, and because there are so many lies out there in the world that mislead.

Needs doctors to save the lives of his people?

Wouldn't that be something that man wants/needs (from doctors, temporarily, okay; but from God and His Son, eternally)?

I do not see how this is something that God needs. God has already saved the lives of His people from Death (so that they may have eternal life), and Christ also healed people (in the flesh) when He was a man. Doctors can save some lives and help heal the flesh, temporarily, yes. Though doctors cannot save people from many kinds of ailments and illnesses (spiritual, mental, physical). All those ailments can and will be healed by God and His Son (some now, and some in the Kingdom - for the leaves of the Tree of Life (aka Christ) are for the healing of the nations).

Throughout history, many things that were considered 'of God' have been replaced with knowledge of ourselves and environment.

I'm not sure examples of people making mistakes shows that God needs help. This seems to indicate that man needs help.

But some claim that God needs nothing (though it can be argued he needs worship),

God does not need worship. It is due Him certainly - but it is given out of love, awe, respect. It is compelled because of how awesome God is - not because He needs it or forces people to do it.

(the rest of your OP seemed to be a summary, so I left it out)




Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

[Menotu]

[Replying to post 15 by tam]

He does not need help.

He's using people to do his work. Sure seems like he needs help. Or he's just a lazy bum

We do.

No

He is building His own Church "building".

Symbolism is fun. I'm sure you realize I'm talking about the building, not the 'building'.

There is no need to pay a light bill because Christ is the Light

And with this, I'm stepping out of this conversation

[bjs]

[Replying to Menotu]

God does not need help. God graciously invites people to be a part of what He is doing in this world.

You are, obviously, free to decline.

So he could build his own churches but doesn't, instead, relying on contractors?
He could pay the light bill but doesn't, instead, relying on people to give money so the lights will stay on?
He could convince others but doesn't, relying on missionaries to go to, many times, dangerous places and risk their lives?

Boy, he sounds like a winner!
No wonder people flock to him and worship!

Again, not relying on; inviting to be a part of. God does not rely on people to do anything, but He graciously invites people to be a part of what He does on earth.

If you don't think it sounds like a winner, don't do it. Those who participate desire to do so.

[Menotu]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #3]

So then, he doesn't need help in writing his own book, telling his own story, converting his own followers.....so those doing all those things aren't needed?
Where is the book he wrote with his own hands, not the hands of man?
Where's the people he converted with his own mouth and actions, not those of man?

If he doesn't 'need' people to do those things, then those people should stop and be proactive in other aspects of life, right?

[nobspeople]

It's an old question, but let's revisit it:
Why does God apparently need help?

He created the whole of everything, but can't build his own church building? Can't pay the light bill?
Write his own book?
Needs people to go out and spread his name?
Needs doctors to save the lives of his people?

Throughout history, many things that were considered 'of God' have been replaced with knowledge of ourselves and environment.

But some claim that God needs nothing (though it can be argued he needs worship), and yet, it's the doctors that tend to save more lives and God; it's the engineers that build the churches; it's the family what protects the children.

Where is God? Why doesn't he have a much more active, apparent role in these things?
Or are we gradually replacing God in everyday life, leaving him only for the mystical?

Because the god they worship is made up and has only the power that people give to it. Which is to say, impotent and utterly, utterly non-worthy of attention or worship. Much like Trump.

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Everyone dies?
True
I guess that's yet another excuse for God

Sorry that I didn’t answer earlier. In Biblical point of view everyone’s body can die, but soul can live after that and God can give a new body. And for those who are righteous, there is eternal life offered as a gift. Humans can’t give that.