This is a question about definition, not denomination.
When I ask, “What is the Christian definition of God according to the Bible?”, I am not asking:
- What does your church say God is?
- What does the Nicene Creed say God is?
- What does a particular theologian say God is?
- What definition have you personally been taught?
I am asking:
If we take the Bible as a whole, what does the biblical text itself establish that “God” is?
And by “definition,” I mean more than simply listing attributes such as omnipotent, eternal, loving, holy, etc. Those describe God, but they do not necessarily tell us what God is.
So I think the question should be approached by examining the biblical data as a whole:
1. How does the Bible use the word “God” (God/Elohim/Theos)?
2. Who or what does the Bible explicitly identify as God?
3. What distinctions does the Bible make between God, the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit?
4. Does the Bible define God as a being, a person, a nature, a substance, a relationship, or something else?
5. What does “one God” mean within the biblical text?
6. How does the definition account for passages that distinguish the Father from the Son while also calling both “God”?
7. How does it account for passages concerning the Holy Spirit?
8. How does the definition fit with the broader message of the Gospel rather than being constructed from a few isolated verses?
9. Does the proposed definition remain logically coherent when all the relevant passages are considered together?
I am especially interested in a definition that satisfies three conditions:
1. Biblical: It should be grounded in the actual biblical text.
2. Holistic: It should account for the relevant passages across the Bible rather than selecting only those that support a predetermined theological system.
3. Rationally coherent: The resulting definition should not require us to redefine ordinary terms or accept contradictions simply because a particular theological tradition requires it.
I am not asking anyone to abandon their theological tradition. I am asking something more fundamental:
«Before we appeal to a theological system to explain the Bible, what definition of “God” can we actually derive from the Bible itself?»
If someone believes the biblical definition is consistent with Nicene Trinitarianism, Unitarianism, LDS theology, or another Christian model, that's fine.
But then the important question is:
Can you demonstrate that definition from the biblical text as a whole, and explain how the relevant passages fit together?
That is the discussion I am interested in.
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Re: What is the Christian definition of God according to the bible?
Post #41Vilferatus wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 7:05 pm
When I ask, “What is the Christian definition of God according to the Bible?”
GOD
Anything that is worshiped can be termed a god, inasmuch as the worshiper attributes to it might greater than his own and venerates it. A person can even let his belly be a god. (Ro 16:18; Php 3:18, 19) The Bible makes mention of many gods (Ps 86:8; 1Co 8:5, 6), but it shows that the gods of the nations are valueless gods.—Ps 96:5; see GODS AND GODDESSES.
Hebrew Terms. Among the Hebrew words that are translated “God” is ʼEl, probably meaning “Mighty One; Strong One.” (Ge 14:18) It is used with reference to Jehovah, to other gods, and to men. It is also used extensively in the makeup of proper names, such as Elisha (meaning “God Is Salvation”) and Michael (“Who Is Like God?”). In some places ʼEl appears with the definite article (ha·ʼElʹ, literally, “the God”) with reference to Jehovah, thereby distinguishing him from other gods.—Ge 46:3; 2Sa 22:31; see NW appendix, p. 1567
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Re: What is the Christian definition of God according to the bible?
Post #42You have just explicitly conceded the entire point of this thread.Clownboat wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 11:30 amLot's of people struggle with reading comprehension. Yours is acknowledged.Vilferatus wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2026 5:25 pm I would honestly love to stop using AI to format my responses, but unfortunately, I cannot find another way to track the logical structure of arguments that simply lack one.
Can you point to where this happened, or is AI just running unrestrained?When a comment admits to having no objective criteria to evaluate its own claims, yet insists that its moral interpretation of a text is the correct one, it abandons the rules of rational discourse.
It can be that. Here in this debate setting, AI is forming your replies and it's painfully obvious.AI is not a substitute for thought; it is an analytical filter used to separate consistent logic from emotional narrative.
Holy derp monkeys AI! All reading of scripture are interpreted. This is how we arrived at the 40,000 denominations that I brought up. Why does AI suggest that my reading wouldn't also be subjective, like everyone else? Do better AI!Since you have explicitly stated: 'I don't know the answer to this question' regarding the objective criteria to determine if your reading represents a coherent model, you have answered the fundamental question of this thread. Without an objective benchmark to distinguish your interpretation from the 40,000 denominations you mentioned, your reading remains a subjective opinion rather than a systematic framework.
In my own words, I dont pretend to waste time with something that doesnt make any logical sense.
If you are struggling to comprehend what is being said, feel free to ask for clarification.
For example:
"What are your thoughts on my take about the Bible God being an ineffective punishing God? Do you acknowledge the stories I brought up? Do you agree that they show what I claim or do you have a different explanation?"
Which of these questions escape your logical capabilities? I'll gladly elucidate.
Your on a debate site... It kind of is your job... You'll never be able to learn or amend your own thinking if you can't figure out your opponents arguments.It is not my job to try to figure out your arguments or the absence of one.
By stating that 'all readings of scripture are interpreted' and asking 'why my reading wouldn't also be subjective, like everyone else,' you have officially reduced your own position to a mere subjective preference. If every framework is entirely subjective, then your claim that the Biblical God is 'ignorant' or 'ineffective' is not an objective textual fact; it is simply your personal emotional reaction to the narrative.
My thread asked for objective criteria to compare models. By admitting that you do not have them, and that you view all theological analysis as inherently subjective, you have disqualified yourself from the methodological scope of this discussion.
It is not my job to teach you the difference between an ontological framework and an emotional narrative, nor is it my job to debate your personal opinions on Genesis when the topic is epistemology. You admitted you don't know the criteria, and you admitted your view is just subjective. There is nothing left to analyze here.
Thank you for proving the necessity of my original post.
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Re: What is the Christian definition of God according to the bible?
Post #43JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 1:54 pmVilferatus wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 7:05 pm
... “What is the Christian definition of God according to the Bible?”GOD
Anything that is worshiped can be termed a god, inasmuch as the worshiper attributes to it might greater than his own and venerates it. A person can even let his belly be a god. (Ro 16:18; Php 3:18, 19) The Bible makes mention of many gods (Ps 86:8; 1Co 8:5, 6), but it shows that the gods of the nations are valueless gods.—Ps 96:5; see GODS AND GODDESSES.
Hebrew Terms. Among the Hebrew words that are translated “God” is ʼEl, probably meaning “Mighty One; Strong One.” (Ge 14:18) It is used with reference to Jehovah, to other gods, and to men. It is also used extensively in the makeup of proper names, such as Elisha (meaning “God Is Salvation”) and Michael (“Who Is Like God?”). In some places ʼEl appears with the definite article (ha·ʼElʹ, literally, “the God”) with reference to Jehovah, thereby distinguishing him from other gods.—Ge 46:3; 2Sa 22:31; see NW appendix, p. 1567
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Full Entry https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001729
see aboveVilferatus wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 7:05 pm 1. How does the Bible use the word “God” (God/Elohim/Theos)?
The bible distinguishes between god(s) which can refer to a variety of things, people or entities (see above) and "The True God" (ie the Creator or the universe) identified by the tetragrammaton ( YHWH) transliterated as Yahweh/Yehowah / English "Jehovah"Vilferatus wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 7:05 pm 2. Who or what does the Bible explicitly identify as God?
Vilferatus wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 7:05 pm If we take the Bible as a whole, what does the biblical text itself establish that “God” is?
JOHN 4:24a
God is a Spirit
God is a "person" as in an intelligent, self aware, individual with his own personality and will.Vilferatus wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 7:05 pm 4. Does the Bible define God as a being, a person, a nature, a substance, a relationship, or something else?
A PERSON “A thinking intelligent being, that has reason and reflection, and can consider itself as itself, the same thinking thing, in different times and places”
John Locke, 17th-century philosopher
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS
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GOD, THE DIVINE NAME and ...THE DIVINE PERSONALITY
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"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
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"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8

