Why Doesn't Anyone Know What A God Is?

[DavidLeon]

Debate Question: What is a god? Why is it that no one seems to understand the simple concept of god anymore? Hopefully what I will do here is demonstrate why no one seems to know what a god is by demonstrating what exactly a god is. Hopefully.

[Willum]

[Replying to DavidLeon in post #28]

No, brother, two crossed sticks, are two crossed sticks that may represent something to a person or group.
You will have to find me anything that says the cross is a god.

I can find no one who worships a cross as a god, and I know of no one who even worships any idols any more.

As for my premise, of gods being imaginary and venerated, well, we are waiting for something to dispute it.

UNLESS you say you worship a cross as god?
I'll give you that one.

But if you worship a cross as a god, then a god is, again trivial, and unworthy of discussion.

As an aside, I am not advocating for dictionary definitions, you were.

[brunumb]

Sir, no one proposes a two crossed sticks, a star, a wheel are gods.

But they do have one big advantage over gods like Jehovah. They actually exist and don't have to be imagined.

[brunumb]

Do you think that all of the gods that Jehovah God told the Jews to not put before him are all the same as him?

Nope. Jehovah said no such thing. Some ancient anonymous people put those words into their imagined god's mouth and passed them on to their gullible followers.

[JehovahsWitness]

The Bible Encylopedia Insight on the scriptures Vol I p. 968 presents the following definition for GOD

GOD

Anything that is worshiped can be termed a god, inasmuch as the worshiper attributes to it might greater than his own and venerates it. A person can even let his belly be a god. (Ro 16:18; Php 3:18, 19) The Bible makes mention of many gods [...] Hebrew Terms. Among the Hebrew words that are translated “God” is ʼEl, probably meaning “Mighty One; Strong One.”

source: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001729

JEHOVAH'S WITNESS


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GODS

What is the meaning of "God"?
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Does anyone know what a god is? [this post]
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Is it reasonable to believe in God?
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Why believe in any gods at all?
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GOD (YHWH)

Who made God?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 92#p925192

How old is God?
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What is god made of ?
viewtopic.php?p=1059808#p1059808

Does God have a biological GENDER?
viewtopic.php?p=1035024#p1035024

Where does God live?
viewtopic.php?p=1075078#p1075078

Can God die?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 77#p951877

Can God forget things ?
viewtopic.php?p=1047561#p1047561

Is God SELECTIVE in his use of his powers of foreknowledge?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 14#p848314

How can an OMNISCIENT God not know something?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 98#p894598

What is the difference between a god and an idol?
viewtopic.php?p=1024454#p1024454

Was Moses God?
viewtopic.php?p=1090732#p1090732

PERSONALITY

What are the top 40 qualities of Jehovah's personality?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 44#p869944

Does God have a sense of humour?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 63#p883863

Can a perfect God desire anything?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p840881

Why does the bible describe Jehovah as "The living God""?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 97#p940997

INVISIBILITY

Genesis 32:30 contradict John 1:18?
viewtopic.php?p=867226#p867226

Who visited Abraham [GENESIS 18:1]?
viewtopic.php?p=937432#p937432

What does the bible mean when it says Moses spoke to God "face to face"?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 78#p812578

Did the 70 elders literally see God?
viewtopic.php?p=1095551#p1095551

Does God have a PHYSICAL body?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 29#p952029

Does the bible speak of God exposing his naked buttocks?
viewtopic.php?p=896993#p896993

Does God have biological gender?
viewtopic.php?p=1035024#p1035024

GOOD

Is God perfect?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 55#p943655

Is God Great?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 69#p954069

Is God good ?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 5#p1005835

Is God loving ?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 8#p1003798

Is God always right?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 4#p1007594

BAD

Is God more killer than kind?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 54#p959154

Is the God of the old testament angry and vengeful while the God of the new is kind and loving?
viewtopic.php?p=1033461#p1033461

Is KILLING compatible with LOVE?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 39#p952839

Is God more "killer" than kind?
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Does the global flood prove God a "baby killer"?
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How can a perfect God "regret"?
viewtopic.php?p=1014669#p1014669

Does God violate his own moral standards?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 20#p840620

Is God JEALOUS?
viewtopic.php?p=782386#p782386

Does God "changing his mind" mean that he ' He failed to get it right the first time'?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 44#p895644

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GOD, THE DIVINE NAME and ...THE DIVINE PERSONALITY

[Willum]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #34]

I am sure you will agree, that the majority of deities are non-existent.
However, with nothing distinguishing your deity from any others, then all deities under this Britannica entry, are non-existent.

So again - a god is an imaginary being venerated by a culture.

I am hoping anyone can come up with any non-trivial exception.

[DavidLeon]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #34]

I am sure you will agree, that the majority of deities are non-existent.
However, with nothing distinguishing your deity from any others, then all deities under this Britannica entry, are non-existent.

So again - a god is an imaginary being venerated by a culture.

I am hoping anyone can come up with any non-trivial exception.

No you aren't. But that's okay because the atheist don't get to decide what the gods are and it only demonstrates that they aren't particularly knowledgeable when it comes to what it is they think they know exists or not.

[Willum]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #34]

I am sure you will agree, that the majority of deities are non-existent.
However, with nothing distinguishing your deity from any others, then all deities under this Britannica entry, are non-existent.

So again - a god is an imaginary being venerated by a culture.

I am hoping anyone can come up with any non-trivial exception.

No you aren't. But that's okay because the atheist don't get to decide what the gods are and it only demonstrates that they aren't particularly knowledgeable when it comes to what it is they think they know exists or not.

Interesting statement.
However the body of knowledge of atheists certainly spans what theists' do, so that is a very unfair comment.
I am also not an atheist.

But here we are, instead of pointing out the tiniest fact that can identify or distinguish what are supposed to be the most profound things in the cosmos; God or gods - from imaginary, you make a statement about those who do not believe.

You should have an easy task.

In another thought:
The fact that all these god are imaginary also ELEGANTLY explains why 'no knows what a god is.'
Those who knew or thought they knew (like paranoid schizophrenics from history - example, those who disappear into the wilderness with a chisel) it came from their imagination, and as such, the imagination of many people as that imagination intersects something that does not exist.

Why gods SHOULD be as variable as unicorns, dragons, wights, fairies, elves, and son of a gun, they are.

Why gods can be as variable as dreams!
And that explains elegantly why no one knows what a god is.

Cool, huh?

[harvey1]

Debate Question: What is a god? Why is it that no one seems to understand the simple concept of god anymore? Hopefully what I will do here is demonstrate why no one seems to know what a god is by demonstrating what exactly a god is. Hopefully.

God is a conscious, eternal, disembodied being that exists causally prior to the universe who is omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #34]

I am sure you will agree, that the majority of deities are non-existent.

No, I believe all deities exist. However I don't hold that all deities people believe in exist.

However, with nothing distinguishing your deity from any others...

In your opinion.





JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

[JehovahsWitness]

all deities under this Britannica entry, are non-existent.

Can you prove that? If not you have just shared your faith based belief.

Thanks for sharing,



JW