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For debate:
  1. Is there any evidence to support the idea that the people of Western European descent, particularly those in Great Britain, are the direct lineal descendants of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel?
  2. Are there any linguistic links between the Hebrew language and English, Welsh, Cornish or Manx?
  3. Could the British Royal Family be directly descended from the line of King David?
  4. Is it possible that the Stone of Jacob (Genesis 28:18) is the Stone of Scone, used for centuries in the coronation of the monarchs of Scotland, later British monarchs? Do the British Empire and the American republic feature in Jewish or Christian prophetic literature?
  5. Is mixed-race marriage a sin?
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The stone taken by Edward I of England to Westminster has been proven by geologists to be a "lower Old Red Sandstone" quarried in the vicinity of Scone.
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McCulloch wrote:The stone taken by Edward I of England to Westminster has been proven by geologists to be a "lower Old Red Sandstone" quarried in the vicinity of Scone.
The stone of Destiny

In the Coronation Chair in Westminster Abbey, in London, is an oblong block of sandstone, upon which all of England's kings have been crowned for several centuries. Before that the kings of Scotland and before that the kings of Ireland were also crowned upon this stone. This is another bit of evidence and piece of the puzzle that proves the identity of the Anglo-Saxon people as the Israel of the Bible and that the House of David still rules over them fulfilling the prophecy that David would never lack a seed to rule over the House of Israel until Jesus the Christ came to take the crown himself.

The history of this stone begins in the 28th chapter of Genesis, where we read that Jacob camped overnight in a field and for his pillow used a stone with his cloak over it. During the night, God appeared to him in a vision and promised to give him the Land of Canaan. When Jacob awoke he said, "This is the house of God," and named the place Beth-el meaning "House of God". Then he took the stone he had used as his pillow and set it up as a monument and dedicated it with an offering of oil.

He promised that if God would help him, "then shall the Lord be my God: and this stone which I have set for a monument shall be God's House. In Genesis 35, God instructs Jacob to go back to Beth-el and set up an altar to God, which Jacob did. It was at this time that God changed Jacob's name to Israel; and Israel again set up and dedicated, as a monument of witness, the stone pillar which he had dedicated as "God's House." Its sacred character was now firmly established.

We next find mention of it in Genesis 49, when the aged Israel, before he dies, tells his 12 sons what will befall their respective descendants in the last days. Speaking of Joseph he says, "From thence is the shepherd of the Stone of Israel." We should therefore expect to find the Stone in the custody of Joseph in the last days. The English are the Tribe of Ephraim, descended from one of Joseph's sons. Its sacred character having been established, the stone would not be thereafter abandoned.

We next hear of it when the Children of Israel, in their exodus from Egypt, were facing death by thirst in the desert. God instructed Moses "I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink;" thus they were saved from death. This miracle was repeated later, but this time Moses was instructed to merely speak to the rock, not strike it; because Moses disobeyed God and hit the rock in a "grandstand play" before the people, he was not allowed to enter the Promised Land. We must not think that this rock was merely the native rock cliffs of these desert places, for in I Corinthians 10:1-4, Paul says, "All our fathers were under the cloud and all passed through the sea and did all drink the same spiritual drink, for they drank of that spiritual Rock THAT FOLLOWED THEM and that rock was Christ." That is, they were given water to drink from a rock which was carried along with them; and as Israel had said, "This stone that I have set up for a monument shall be God's house", so Christ hallowed it with His presence.

After Joshua had conquered the Promised Land and divided it among the 12 Tribes, he reminded them that they must ever be loyal to God and he set up a stone as a monument of witness to this warning. The Hebrew says he took "the stone of greatness" and what would that be, or what more fitting witness could there be, but the stone which was "God's House"?

Before God ever allowed Israel to have a king, the rebel Abimelech had himself crowned king beside this pillar or monument (Judges 9:6). Later, when the lawful monarchy was established in the House of David, we find it was the custom that the king be crowned standing by the "pillar" or monument, for we read in II Kings 11:12-14, "And he brought forth the king's son and put the crown upon him and gave him the testimony; and they made him king and annoited him; and they clapped their hands and said, 'God save the king.' When Athaliah heard the noise of the guard and of the people, she came to the people into the Temple of the Lord. And when she looked, behold, the king stood by a pillar, as the manner was and the princes and the trumpeters by the king, and all the people of the land rejoiced.

The Stone had become a sacred relic, a witness of the mutual promises of God and of the Children of Israel. It would be found close to the Temple and the throne. Upon the fall of Jerusalem to the Babylonians under Nebuchadnezzar, II Maccabees 2:4-8, says that ancient records stated that Jeremiah had taken the Ark of the Covenant and the Tabernacle and had hidden them in a cave on Mount Nebo. While I Samuel 4-5 records the capture of the Ark by the Philistines, and its return, there is no mention of it being taken by the Babylonians, so the ancient record of the Ark being hidden must be correct. Along with the Ark, we may be sure that Jeremiah would also safely hide the sacred Witness Stone. "God's House", which had twice been used to give water to the people to save them from death and which was now used in the coronation of the kings.

When I spoke to you on "What Jeremiah Planted", I told you how Jeremiah and the daughters of the last King of Judah Zedekiah, were taken to Egypt with the refugees; But in order to fulfill God's prophecy that Jeremiah was also "to build and to plant", Jeremiah had to leave Egypt and take the princess to where another Israelite kingdom was then in existence, in Ireland. We know that with Jeremiah went Baruch, his scribe, and the king's daughter Tea Tephi; and with the princess, he would also certainly take the hidden Stone upon which the kings were crowned.

The ancient Irish records record the coming of "the Great Prophet, Brugh, his scribe, (obviously Baruch) and the daughter of a king, about 583 B.C., which would be the correct date; and that with them they brought the "Wonderful Stone," or "Stone of Destiny."

Tea Tephi, the king's daughter, married Eochaid the Heremon, or Chief King of Ireland. The stone, called "Lia Fail" or "Stone of Destiny" was kept at the capital city of Tara for some three centuries and all the kings, descendants of Eochaid and Tea Tephi, were crowned on it. Then about 350 B.C., it was sent to Scotland for the coronation of Fergus, King of the Scots, who was a descendant of the Milesian kings of Ireland. It remained in Scotland and all Scottish kings were crowned on it until 1297 A.D., when King Edward I of England invaded Scotland and captured the Stone, which he took to England, where it was placed in Westminster Abbey, its home ever since that date. It was built into the Coronation Chair, the oldest piece of furniture in England still serving its original purpose and all English kings have been crowned on it ever since. Its origin was well known during the entire time it has been in the British Isles and from practically the first it was called "Jacob's Stone." William of Rislanger, writing in the 13th century, records the coronation of John de Baliol as King of Scotland in the year 1292 "upon the stone upon which Jacob placed his head.

While the ten-tribed nation of Israel had to "abide many days without a king" as God prophesied in Hosea 3:4, yet there must always be a royal family of David's line on the throne over some Israelite people, for God promised through Jeremiah (33:17) that "David shall never lack a man to sit upon the throne of the House of Israel." We know that Eochaid the Heremon was of the Milesian line of Kings of Ireland and that the Milesians in Ireland were descendants of Zarah, a son of Judah; and that Tea Tephi was a descendant of David, who was also of the Royal Tribe of Judah through Judah's other son, Pharez. So the two royal lines of Judah were united with the marriage of Eochaid and Tea Tephi and a descendant of David was always on the throne over Israelite people, as God had promised.

The Ark of the Covenant belonged in the Temple; and the Temple was not to be a continuous institution like the Throne of David; so it is not surprising that the Ark has disappeared from history, and probably will not be revealed again until Jesus Christ returns to reign upon the Throne of David, as is prophesied in Isaiah 9:7. But the Throne was to be a continuous throne (Jeremiah 33:17); therefore, it is only logical that the Coronation Stone, which the Hebrews had called "The Stone of Majesty" and "The Pillar of Witness", should be found where the Throne of David had its continued existence. After all, it was "The Pillar of Witness" for it had been made witness to both Israel's promise to be God's people and God's promise to be their God. It should be there, as a witness that God always makes good His promises and "David shall never lack a man to sit upon the Throne of the House of Israel."

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Malachi-Zede-El wrote:The word '' Hebrew '' , In Aramic , Is the word Ibriy which comes from the root word Abar , Which means ; '' To Cross Over , To Pass Over '' . In the Aramic ( Hebrew ) language . In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) , The word 'Aabiyr , For '' Eber '' , Means '' The One Who Passes Over '' . It gets the same meaning as the tirle '' Hebrew '' - One Who Traverse and Ebra , Meaning '' To Traverse ; To Expound '' . '' Traversing '' As used in the person to whom the name was given first , Was Eber , Son of Salah , Son of Shem , Son of Noah , As found in Genesis 10 ; 21 . < Noah ( 2970 - 2020 B.C.E. ) Son Of Lamech And Kamilah ( Genesis 5 ; 29
, Shem ( 2470 - 1870 B.C.E. ) Son Of Noah And Namah ( Genesis 5 ; 32 ) ....

The name Eber , Also Abar , Ay -Ber and Heber , Means '' The Region Beyond '' , From this you get the derivative of Eber , Hebrew , To mean '' One Who Crossed From Beyond One Region To Another '' Or Simply '' To Cross Over '' ,
"Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a "Jew" or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew." 1980 Jewish Almanac, P.3

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christian1488 wrote:
Malachi-Zede-El wrote:The word '' Hebrew '' , In Aramic , Is the word Ibriy which comes from the root word Abar , Which means ; '' To Cross Over , To Pass Over '' . In the Aramic ( Hebrew ) language . In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) , The word 'Aabiyr , For '' Eber '' , Means '' The One Who Passes Over '' . It gets the same meaning as the tirle '' Hebrew '' - One Who Traverse and Ebra , Meaning '' To Traverse ; To Expound '' . '' Traversing '' As used in the person to whom the name was given first , Was Eber , Son of Salah , Son of Shem , Son of Noah , As found in Genesis 10 ; 21 . < Noah ( 2970 - 2020 B.C.E. ) Son Of Lamech And Kamilah ( Genesis 5 ; 29
, Shem ( 2470 - 1870 B.C.E. ) Son Of Noah And Namah ( Genesis 5 ; 32 ) ....

The name Eber , Also Abar , Ay -Ber and Heber , Means '' The Region Beyond '' , From this you get the derivative of Eber , Hebrew , To mean '' One Who Crossed From Beyond One Region To Another '' Or Simply '' To Cross Over '' ,
"Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a "Jew" or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew." 1980 Jewish Almanac, P.3
Yes, that confirms what was written. Languages evolved, and the term 'Jew' evolved from the term 'Judah, one of the tribes that made up the nation of Israel, and the providence where Jerusalem was located. I don't think you know what your point actually means, particularly since you are taking it out of context.
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christian1488 wrote:
Malachi-Zede-El wrote:The word '' Hebrew '' , In Aramic , Is the word Ibriy which comes from the root word Abar , Which means ; '' To Cross Over , To Pass Over '' . In the Aramic ( Hebrew ) language . In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) , The word 'Aabiyr , For '' Eber '' , Means '' The One Who Passes Over '' . It gets the same meaning as the tirle '' Hebrew '' - One Who Traverse and Ebra , Meaning '' To Traverse ; To Expound '' . '' Traversing '' As used in the person to whom the name was given first , Was Eber , Son of Salah , Son of Shem , Son of Noah , As found in Genesis 10 ; 21 . < Noah ( 2970 - 2020 B.C.E. ) Son Of Lamech And Kamilah ( Genesis 5 ; 29
, Shem ( 2470 - 1870 B.C.E. ) Son Of Noah And Namah ( Genesis 5 ; 32 ) ....

The name Eber , Also Abar , Ay -Ber and Heber , Means '' The Region Beyond '' , From this you get the derivative of Eber , Hebrew , To mean '' One Who Crossed From Beyond One Region To Another '' Or Simply '' To Cross Over '' ,
"Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a "Jew" or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew." 1980 Jewish Almanac, P.3
Oh really I didn't know that , And that from a 1980 Jewish Almanac , Whewww how did I miss that :-k I'll think I'll stay with the Scriptures . They written most of them too .

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Goat wrote:
christian1488 wrote:
Malachi-Zede-El wrote:The word '' Hebrew '' , In Aramic , Is the word Ibriy which comes from the root word Abar , Which means ; '' To Cross Over , To Pass Over '' . In the Aramic ( Hebrew ) language . In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) , The word 'Aabiyr , For '' Eber '' , Means '' The One Who Passes Over '' . It gets the same meaning as the tirle '' Hebrew '' - One Who Traverse and Ebra , Meaning '' To Traverse ; To Expound '' . '' Traversing '' As used in the person to whom the name was given first , Was Eber , Son of Salah , Son of Shem , Son of Noah , As found in Genesis 10 ; 21 . < Noah ( 2970 - 2020 B.C.E. ) Son Of Lamech And Kamilah ( Genesis 5 ; 29
, Shem ( 2470 - 1870 B.C.E. ) Son Of Noah And Namah ( Genesis 5 ; 32 ) ....

The name Eber , Also Abar , Ay -Ber and Heber , Means '' The Region Beyond '' , From this you get the derivative of Eber , Hebrew , To mean '' One Who Crossed From Beyond One Region To Another '' Or Simply '' To Cross Over '' ,
"Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a "Jew" or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew." 1980 Jewish Almanac, P.3
Yes, that confirms what was written. Languages evolved, and the term 'Jew' evolved from the term 'Judah, one of the tribes that made up the nation of Israel, and the providence where Jerusalem was located. I don't think you know what your point actually means, particularly since you are taking it out of context.

That because you think your one of those socalled Scholar / Theologian etc . And nobody knows the things that was pass on to you from your teacher , Which was pass on to him to you . Plus unless one tell you what you want to hear / read , it out of context . I understand :) Let not Sabotage the post , because your disagree
who know you could learn something okkkk

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Malachi-Zede-El wrote:According to Deuteronomy 15 ; 12 , In the Strong's Concordance the word '' Hebrew '' Ibriy is not the name of a tribe or a people . Hebrew is just a title for what Abraham and his people did . Not what they were . The word '' Hebrew '' Is merely describing an Act Of A People Or A Person ; Moving From One Side To Another , And could apply to people originally born on one side of The Mississippi River , And deciding to relocate to the other side of TheMississippi River
. In English they would be called '' Crossed Over '' . In the Canaanite language they would be called Hebrew , Which later was picked up and became their name . As you have seen , The name '' Hebrew '' Existed before Abraham with a man named Eber . People think that the word Hebrew stems from the word Hebron ( Genesis 13 ; 18 ) , The name of a place in the Hills of Judan South of Jerusalem where Sarah died ( Genesis 23 ; 2 ) . However , If you check it out in The Original Language , You see it does not .

Now Take A Look At The Word Ibriy . The First Letter Aiyn Is The Hard A Or I In Hebrew . The Root Of Ibriy Is Abar Meaning '' To Cross Over '' Whereas The Root Of '' Hebron '' Chebrown , Pronounced Khebronee ' Is Cheber Meaning '' A Society ; Also A Spell , Charmer , Enchantment '' . These Two Words Do Not Have The Same Root , Therefor , You Can See That They Are Not The Same Word , By Their Roots .


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The word '' Israel ''Yisra'el , Pronounced Yis - Raw - Ale in Aramic ( Hebrew ) , And Israa'el In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) means '' El Prevails '' , As if God could lose . In this case , The translation of Israel , Which would be '' God Prevail Or Won '' Is first used in Genesis 32 ; 28 As The Name Of Jacob ( Koran 2 ; 132 - 133 ) , Then as a Nation Koran ( 2 ; 47 - 53 ) In reference to Jacob , Son of Isaac , Son of Abraham , Who was running from his brother Esau in fear , For his life .

Genesis 32 ; 28 ( In Aramic ( Hebrew )
Wa ( And ) He Aw-Mar ( Said ) Your Shame ( Name ) Will Be Aw - Mar ( Uttered ) Lo ( No ) Ode ( Continued ) Yah - Aq - Obe ( ''Heel Holder Jacob ) , But Yis -Raw - Ale ( '' Ascend To El ' Israel ) ; Because As A Saw - Raw ( Power ) With Eloheem ( These Beings ) Wa ( And ) With En - Oshe ( Men Like Enosh ) , Wa ( And ) Has Yaw -Kole ( Prevalied ) .
And He The Eloheem Said , '' Your Name Will Be Uttered No More As ( Jacob ) , But As ( Israel ) '' Ascend To El '' ; Because As A Struggler With The Eloheem And With Enosite , And Has Prevailed

Mistranslation For King James 1611 A.D.
And He Said , Thy Name Shall Be Called No More ( Jacob ) , But ( Israel ) ; For As A Prince Hast Thou Power With God And With Men And Hast Prevailed .

Jacob ( 1918 - 1771 B.C.E ) Son Of Isaac And Rebekah ( Genesis 25 ; 26 ) .

Jacob was running from Esau . Because Of An Evil Act that he and his mother Rebekah commited , By stealing Esau's Birthright ( Genesis Chapter 27 ) , And deceiving their father Isaac . In his old age in Blindness ( Genesis 27 ; 1 ) .

Genesis 27 ; 1 ( Aramic Hebrew )
Wa ( And ) Yeh-He ( In Time ) That When Yis - Khawq ( Isaac ) Was Zaw - Qane ( An Elder ) Wa ( And ) His Ah' -Yeen ( Eyes ) Qaw -Haw ( Grow Weak ) So That He Could Not Raw - Aw ( See , Blind ) He Called Ay - Saww ( Esau ) His Gaw -Dole ( Great ) Bane ( Son ) Wa ( And ) Aw -Mar ( Said ) To Him , Bane ( My Son ) Wa ( And ) He Aw - Mar ' ( Said ) To Him , Hin -Nay ( Here ) , I Am .
Isaac In Time Became An Elder And His Eyes Became Weak So That He Could Not See , He Called For Esau His Oldest Son And Said To Him , '' My Son '' . And He Said To Him , '' Isaac This Is Me .

Mistranslation For King James 1611 A.D.
And It Came To Pass That When Isaac Was Old , And His Eyes Were Dim , So That He Could Not See , He Called Esau , His Eldest Son , And Said Unto Him , My Son ; And He Said Unto Him Behold , Here I Am .

Isaac ( 1978 - 1798 B.C.E ) Son Of Abraham And Sarah ( Genesis 17 ; 19 ) , Rebekah Daughter Of Bethu'el And Ziglaq ( Genesis 22 ; 23 ) ...

In the process of trying to Run From His Brother Esau , Jacob was stopped by what Followers Of The King Jame Bible , Called an Angel , That was Obviously In Human Form , In order for Jacob To Be Able To Wrestle With Him , And in Genesis 32 ; 24 , Jacob Wrestled with an '' Eesh - aramic - Meaning '' Male Living Being , Physical Man ; An Angel who Wrestled and caused Jacob's Thigh To Go Out Of Joint ( Genesis 32 ; 25 ) Before blessing him and changing his name from Jacob To Israel ( Genesis 32 ; 28 ) .


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Malachi-Zede-El wrote:
Goat wrote:
christian1488 wrote:
Malachi-Zede-El wrote:The word '' Hebrew '' , In Aramic , Is the word Ibriy which comes from the root word Abar , Which means ; '' To Cross Over , To Pass Over '' . In the Aramic ( Hebrew ) language . In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) , The word 'Aabiyr , For '' Eber '' , Means '' The One Who Passes Over '' . It gets the same meaning as the tirle '' Hebrew '' - One Who Traverse and Ebra , Meaning '' To Traverse ; To Expound '' . '' Traversing '' As used in the person to whom the name was given first , Was Eber , Son of Salah , Son of Shem , Son of Noah , As found in Genesis 10 ; 21 . < Noah ( 2970 - 2020 B.C.E. ) Son Of Lamech And Kamilah ( Genesis 5 ; 29
, Shem ( 2470 - 1870 B.C.E. ) Son Of Noah And Namah ( Genesis 5 ; 32 ) ....

The name Eber , Also Abar , Ay -Ber and Heber , Means '' The Region Beyond '' , From this you get the derivative of Eber , Hebrew , To mean '' One Who Crossed From Beyond One Region To Another '' Or Simply '' To Cross Over '' ,
"Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a "Jew" or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew." 1980 Jewish Almanac, P.3
Yes, that confirms what was written. Languages evolved, and the term 'Jew' evolved from the term 'Judah, one of the tribes that made up the nation of Israel, and the providence where Jerusalem was located. I don't think you know what your point actually means, particularly since you are taking it out of context.

That because you think your one of those socalled Scholar / Theologian etc . And nobody knows the things that was pass on to you from your teacher , Which was pass on to him to you . Plus unless one tell you what you want to hear / read , it out of context . I understand :) Let not Sabotage the post , because your disagree
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Malachi-Zede-El wrote:
Malachi-Zede-El wrote:According to Deuteronomy 15 ; 12 , In the Strong's Concordance the word '' Hebrew '' Ibriy is not the name of a tribe or a people . Hebrew is just a title for what Abraham and his people did . Not what they were . The word '' Hebrew '' Is merely describing an Act Of A People Or A Person ; Moving From One Side To Another , And could apply to people originally born on one side of The Mississippi River , And deciding to relocate to the other side of TheMississippi River
. In English they would be called '' Crossed Over '' . In the Canaanite language they would be called Hebrew , Which later was picked up and became their name . As you have seen , The name '' Hebrew '' Existed before Abraham with a man named Eber . People think that the word Hebrew stems from the word Hebron ( Genesis 13 ; 18 ) , The name of a place in the Hills of Judan South of Jerusalem where Sarah died ( Genesis 23 ; 2 ) . However , If you check it out in The Original Language , You see it does not .

Now Take A Look At The Word Ibriy . The First Letter Aiyn Is The Hard A Or I In Hebrew . The Root Of Ibriy Is Abar Meaning '' To Cross Over '' Whereas The Root Of '' Hebron '' Chebrown , Pronounced Khebronee ' Is Cheber Meaning '' A Society ; Also A Spell , Charmer , Enchantment '' . These Two Words Do Not Have The Same Root , Therefor , You Can See That They Are Not The Same Word , By Their Roots .


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The word '' Israel ''Yisra'el , Pronounced Yis - Raw - Ale in Aramic ( Hebrew ) , And Israa'el In Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) means '' El Prevails '' , As if God could lose . In this case , The translation of Israel , Which would be '' God Prevail Or Won '' Is first used in Genesis 32 ; 28 As The Name Of Jacob ( Koran 2 ; 132 - 133 ) , Then as a Nation Koran ( 2 ; 47 - 53 ) In reference to Jacob , Son of Isaac , Son of Abraham , Who was running from his brother Esau in fear , For his life .

Genesis 32 ; 28 ( In Aramic ( Hebrew )
Wa ( And ) He Aw-Mar ( Said ) Your Shame ( Name ) Will Be Aw - Mar ( Uttered ) Lo ( No ) Ode ( Continued ) Yah - Aq - Obe ( ''Heel Holder Jacob ) , But Yis -Raw - Ale ( '' Ascend To El ' Israel ) ; Because As A Saw - Raw ( Power ) With Eloheem ( These Beings ) Wa ( And ) With En - Oshe ( Men Like Enosh ) , Wa ( And ) Has Yaw -Kole ( Prevalied ) .
And He The Eloheem Said , '' Your Name Will Be Uttered No More As ( Jacob ) , But As ( Israel ) '' Ascend To El '' ; Because As A Struggler With The Eloheem And With Enosite , And Has Prevailed

Mistranslation For King James 1611 A.D.
And He Said , Thy Name Shall Be Called No More ( Jacob ) , But ( Israel ) ; For As A Prince Hast Thou Power With God And With Men And Hast Prevailed .

Jacob ( 1918 - 1771 B.C.E ) Son Of Isaac And Rebekah ( Genesis 25 ; 26 ) .

Jacob was running from Esau . Because Of An Evil Act that he and his mother Rebekah commited , By stealing Esau's Birthright ( Genesis Chapter 27 ) , And deceiving their father Isaac . In his old age in Blindness ( Genesis 27 ; 1 ) .

Genesis 27 ; 1 ( Aramic Hebrew )
Wa ( And ) Yeh-He ( In Time ) That When Yis - Khawq ( Isaac ) Was Zaw - Qane ( An Elder ) Wa ( And ) His Ah' -Yeen ( Eyes ) Qaw -Haw ( Grow Weak ) So That He Could Not Raw - Aw ( See , Blind ) He Called Ay - Saww ( Esau ) His Gaw -Dole ( Great ) Bane ( Son ) Wa ( And ) Aw -Mar ( Said ) To Him , Bane ( My Son ) Wa ( And ) He Aw - Mar ' ( Said ) To Him , Hin -Nay ( Here ) , I Am .
Isaac In Time Became An Elder And His Eyes Became Weak So That He Could Not See , He Called For Esau His Oldest Son And Said To Him , '' My Son '' . And He Said To Him , '' Isaac This Is Me .

Mistranslation For King James 1611 A.D.
And It Came To Pass That When Isaac Was Old , And His Eyes Were Dim , So That He Could Not See , He Called Esau , His Eldest Son , And Said Unto Him , My Son ; And He Said Unto Him Behold , Here I Am .

Isaac ( 1978 - 1798 B.C.E ) Son Of Abraham And Sarah ( Genesis 17 ; 19 ) , Rebekah Daughter Of Bethu'el And Ziglaq ( Genesis 22 ; 23 ) ...

In the process of trying to Run From His Brother Esau , Jacob was stopped by what Followers Of The King Jame Bible , Called an Angel , That was Obviously In Human Form , In order for Jacob To Be Able To Wrestle With Him , And in Genesis 32 ; 24 , Jacob Wrestled with an '' Eesh - aramic - Meaning '' Male Living Being , Physical Man ; An Angel who Wrestled and caused Jacob's Thigh To Go Out Of Joint ( Genesis 32 ; 25 ) Before blessing him and changing his name from Jacob To Israel ( Genesis 32 ; 28 ) .


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The word '' Hebrew '' Is a '' Title '' that was attributed to Abraham when he traveled from Ur of Chaldees , And Crossed A strip of land called Mesopotamia , Which is Nestled between The Tigris - Euphrates Rivers . Abraham Son Of Terah ( Genesis 11 ; 27 ) .

Genesis 14 ; 13 , ( In Aramic - Hebrew )
Wa ( And ) Bo ( There Came ) One That Had Faw-Leet ( Escaped ) , Wa ( And ) Naw - Gad ( Told ) Ar - Rawm ( Abraham ) The Ib -Ree ( Hebrew ) ; For He Shaw -Kan ( Dwelt ) In The Ay - Lone ( Plain ) Of Mam - Ray ( Mamre '' Fatness '' ) Ha ( The ) Em -O - Ree ( Amorite ) , Awkh ( Brother ) Of Esh - Kole ( Eshcol ) ,Wa ( And ) Awkh ( Brother ) Of Aw -Nare ( Aner ) ; Wa ( And ) Haym ( These ) Were Bah -Al ( Confedrate ) With Ab - Rawm ( Abram ) .
And There Came One That Had Escaped And Reported All This To Abram The Hebrew The One Who Crossed Over ( Hebrew ) ; Who Was Living Near A Sacred Tree In The Plain Of Mamre 'Fatness ' The Mountain Dweller Mamre And His Brothers Eshcol 'Cluster . And His Brother Aner 'A Young Man ; And These Were The Allies Of Abram .

Mistranslation For King James 1611 A.D.
And There Came One That Had Escaped , And Told Abram The Hebrew ; For He Dwelt In The Plain Of Mamre The Amorite , Brother Of Eshcol , And Brother Of Aner ; And These Were Confederate With Abram .

Abraham was in route to the land of The Canaanites , Which was promised to him and his descendants who were destined to come from his seed for an everlasting possession ( Genesis 17 ; 8 ) . Abraham met a group of Phoenician - Canaanites ( The Canaanite Tribe Of Sidon Who Mixed In With The Assyrians ) Who witnessed Abraham crossing The Tigris -Euphrates , And referred to him and his family as Ibriy '' One Who Passed Over . '' Joseph , Son of Jacob , Son of Isaac , Son of Abraham , Was also called a '' Hebrew '' In Genesis 39 ; 14 .

Genesis 39 ; 14 , ( In Aramic Hebrew )
That She Qaw - Raw ( Called ) Unto The En -Oshe ( Human Being ) Of Her Bah'-Yith ( House )
, Wa ( And ) Aw - Mar ( Spoke ) Unto Them , Aw -Mar ( Saying ) . Raw - Aw ( See In Person ) , He Have Bo ( Brought ) In An Ib - Ree ( Hebrew ) Unto Us To Saw -Khak ( Mock ) Us ; He Bo ( Came ) In Unto Me To Shaw -Kab ( Lie ) With Me . Wa ( And ) I Qaw -Raw ( Called ) With A Gaw - Dole ( Old ) Qole ( Voice ) .
That She Called To The Enosite Of The House And Spoke To Them Saying , '' See He Has Brought In A Hebrew 'One Who Crosses Over To Us In Order To Mock Us . He Came In Unto Me To Lie Sexually With Me And I Called Out Of Help With A Loud Voice .

Mistranslation For King James 1611 A.D.
That She Called Unto The Men Of Her House , And Spake Unto Them , Saying , See , He Hath Brought In An Hebrew Unto Us To Mock Us ; He Came In Unto Me To Lie With Me , And I Cried With A Loud Voice .

Joseph Son Of Jacob ( Genesis 37 ; 2 ) He Was Also Called A ''Hebrew '' .

In Genesis 32 ; 31 , The Word '' To Pass Over '' Is The Hebrew Word Abar Meaning '' To Crossover '' , And In Arabic , You Have The Same Word Containing The Same Letter ; ' Aiyn '' Beh '' Rah '' Abara Meaning '' The Other Side Or Cross Over '' , Which Is The Same Root The Word Hebrew Comes From .

Genesis 32 ; 31 , ( In Aramic Hebrew )
And As He Aw - Bar ( Crossed Over ) Fen - Oo - Ale ( Facing El '' Penuel ) The Sheh '- Mesh ( Sun ) Zaw - Rakh ( Rose ) Upon Him , And He Seh - - Lah ( Limping ) Because Of His Yaw - Rake ( Thigh ) .
And As He Crossed Over Penuel , The Sun Appeared To Raise Upon Him , And He Was Limping Becaise Of His Thigh .

Mistranslation For King James 1611 A.D.
And As He Passed Over Penuel The Sun Rose Upon Him , And He Halted Upon His Thigh .

In This Quote , It Is Referring To When Jacob , The Father Of Israel , Passed Over [ From The Root Abar - aramic - The River , From One Side To The Other .

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Malachi-Zede-El wrote:According to Deuteronomy 15 ; 12 , In the Strong's Concordance the word '' Hebrew '' Ibriy is not the name of a tribe or a people . Hebrew is just a title for what Abraham and his people did . Not what they were . The word '' Hebrew '' Is merely describing an Act Of A People Or A Person ; Moving From One Side To Another , And could apply to people originally born on one side of The Mississippi River , And deciding to relocate to the other side of TheMississippi River
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Now that you have done the cut/paste job that you, or someone else have done in various numbers of forums over the last few years.. care to back that up with legitament sources, and then explain how this relates to any of the questions proposed in the op.
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