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Dawkin's Delusion

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Dawkin's Delusion is a serious psychic disorder or mental aberration and disturbance afflicting many atheists today. This is the only conclusion that Christian psychologists, philosophers and the Christian laity can come to in light of the new evidence provided by a leading Christian theologian.



Do you have any objections to Christians labeling such a serious psychic disorder or mental aberration and disturbance as exhibited by Dawkins as Dawkin's Delusion?

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Neandertal Ned wrote:
What evidence of evolution is to be used in a scientifc experiment which would demonstrate that an evolutionary hypothesis was scientific. If there is no material to experiment with then the scientific process or method would not be fulfilled.
DNA evidence is a great start which link all of us.


http://www2.nau.edu/~gaud/bio372/class/ ... ciproc.htm

Good link showing the scientific process. Can your god be tested by this process?


Do you do experiments with certain species which may cause them to mutate?
I don't have the ability to do said experiments. I am a lowly military man. I leave that up to the experts. I evaluate and compare their findings to see what I accept or don't accept.

I did this with the bible too. I let the "experts" aka authors tell me what they thought about reality around them and evaluated and compared their findings and learned they had nothing that I needed to consider as fact. Infact I found contradictory evidence to thebible authors.

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Nickman wrote:
Neandertal Ned wrote: What evidence of evolution is to be used in a scientifc experiment which would demonstrate that an evolutionary hypothesis was scientific. If there is no material to experiment with then the scientific process or method would not be fulfilled.
DNA evidence is a great start which link all of us.
DNA is evidence of evolution? Who told you that?

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Neandertal Ned wrote:
Nickman wrote:
Neandertal Ned wrote: What evidence of evolution is to be used in a scientifc experiment which would demonstrate that an evolutionary hypothesis was scientific. If there is no material to experiment with then the scientific process or method would not be fulfilled.
DNA evidence is a great start which link all of us.
DNA is evidence of evolution? Who told you that?
Science does

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 171533.htm

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Nickman wrote:
Neandertal Ned wrote:
Nickman wrote:
Neandertal Ned wrote: What evidence of evolution is to be used in a scientifc experiment which would demonstrate that an evolutionary hypothesis was scientific. If there is no material to experiment with then the scientific process or method would not be fulfilled.
DNA evidence is a great start which link all of us.
DNA is evidence of evolution? Who told you that?
Science does

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 171533.htm
Interbreeding is not evidence of evolution. To the contrary, it shows that the Darwinist notion of fixed and immutable "species" of Man, based on the assumed absence of interfertility, is fraying at the edges. It shows that all of the so-called and artificially dubbed former "species" of Man were just as human as we are today and that there never was any "evolution" of one "species" of Man into another. The normal function of sexual reproduction seems to have guaranteed the survival of Man since he first set foot on this earth.

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Neandertal Ned wrote:
Nickman wrote:
Neandertal Ned wrote:
Nickman wrote:
Neandertal Ned wrote: What evidence of evolution is to be used in a scientifc experiment which would demonstrate that an evolutionary hypothesis was scientific. If there is no material to experiment with then the scientific process or method would not be fulfilled.
DNA evidence is a great start which link all of us.
DNA is evidence of evolution? Who told you that?
Science does

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 171533.htm
Interbreeding is not evidence of evolution. To the contrary, it shows that the Darwinist notion of fixed and immutable "species" of Man, based on the assumed absence of interfertility, is fraying at the edges. It shows that all of the so-called and artificially dubbed former "species" of Man were just as human as we are today and that there never was any "evolution" of one "species" of Man into another. The normal function of sexual reproduction seems to have guaranteed the survival of Man since he first set foot on this earth.
Your avatar name comes from one such species. Another species of man like creatures that split from a common ancestor.

Ring species also show us how evolution works on a mordern scale. As the Ensatina salamanders of California moved down the coast they came to a fork in the road, a valley. As they moved down some went left some went right. When they met each other at the junction at the end of the valley they were not able to breed, when once before they were able to. The environmental pressures changed them. This species changed enough in a few years that they were not able to breed. Producing two species from the original ancestor they once were.
By the time the salamanders reached the southernmost part of California, the separation had caused the two groups to evolve enough differences that they had become reproductively isolated. In some areas the two populations coexist, closing the "ring," but do not interbreed. They are as distinct as though they were two separate species. Yet the entire complex of populations belongs to a single taxonomic species, Ensatinaescholtzii
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Nickman wrote:
Neandertal Ned wrote:
Nickman wrote:
Neandertal Ned wrote:
Nickman wrote:
Neandertal Ned wrote: What evidence of evolution is to be used in a scientifc experiment which would demonstrate that an evolutionary hypothesis was scientific. If there is no material to experiment with then the scientific process or method would not be fulfilled.
DNA evidence is a great start which link all of us.
DNA is evidence of evolution? Who told you that?
Science does

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 171533.htm
Interbreeding is not evidence of evolution. To the contrary, it shows that the Darwinist notion of fixed and immutable "species" of Man, based on the assumed absence of interfertility, is fraying at the edges. It shows that all of the so-called and artificially dubbed former "species" of Man were just as human as we are today and that there never was any "evolution" of one "species" of Man into another. The normal function of sexual reproduction seems to have guaranteed the survival of Man since he first set foot on this earth.
Your avatar name comes from one such species. Another species of man like creatures that split from a common ancestor.
I don't believe in the division of Man into differentiates "species." DNA findings indicate that there was interbreeding between Neandertals and Europeans so how do you define a species when it comes to humans?
Ring species also show us how evolution works on a mordern scale. As the Ensatina salamanders of California moved down the coast they came to a fork in the road, a valley. As they moved down some went left some went right. When they met each other at the junction at the end of the valley they were not able to breed, when once before they were able to. The environmental pressures changed them. This species changed enough in a few years that they were not able to breed. Producing two species from the original ancestor they once were.
By the time the salamanders reached the southernmost part of California, the separation had caused the two groups to evolve enough differences that they had become reproductively isolated. In some areas the two populations coexist, closing the "ring," but do not interbreed. They are as distinct as though they were two separate species. Yet the entire complex of populations belongs to a single taxonomic species, Ensatinaescholtzii
PBS and AIG know more about salamanders than you or I ever will, so I will let the experts fight it out and reserve comment until much later.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... alamanders

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Neandertal Ned wrote:
I don't believe in the division of Man into differentiates "species." DNA findings indicate that there was interbreeding between Neandertals and Europeans so how do you define a species when it comes to humans?
ok don't believe it then. Man was different a hundred years ago yeah? It was a product of its environment and the ideologies and mentality of the time. Today we are different. In this short period of time we have changed from a more primitive peoples to a huge industrial people. This is evolution, meaning change over time.

Take that back 10000 years ago, we were a very primative people still attributing natural occurences to gods and deities.

Take that back 190000 years ago and we barely knew how to make fire.

This is all evolution, meaning change over time.

Take that back several million years, and we were still hanging out in trees in the savannah to keep from getting eaten by predators.

PBS and AIG know more about salamanders than you or I ever will, so I will let the experts fight it out and reserve comment until much later.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/article ... alamanders
Do the salamanders show that there was a change? Yes which is the definition of evolution. They changed enough to be inable to interbreed. Did that change happen over time? Yes, which is the definition of evolution. Is evolution a better explanaition than creationism? Yes it explains changes over time. Is it one hundred percent? No but it is evidenced and has a rational application that explains what we see in reality and that is change over time. Do things change over time?

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Nickman wrote:
Neandertal Ned wrote:
I don't believe in the division of Man into differentiates "species." DNA findings indicate that there was interbreeding between Neandertals and Europeans so how do you define a species when it comes to humans?
ok don't believe it then. Man was different a hundred years ago yeah? It was a product of its environment and the ideologies and mentality of the time. Today we are different. In this short period of time we have changed from a more primitive peoples to a huge industrial people. This is evolution, meaning change over time.
That's not a biological definition of evolution. There is no evidence of any biological changes in humans over time.
Take that back 10000 years ago, we were a very primative people still attributing natural occurences to gods and deities.

Take that back 190000 years ago and we barely knew how to make fire.

This is all evolution, meaning change over time.
Fortunately, you can't take it back 10Kya, let alone 200kya unless you have a time machine. You have an expansive imagination though.
Take that back several million years, and we were still hanging out in trees in the savannah to keep from getting eaten by predators.
You are imagining things again. Planet of the Apes is a movie.

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Neandertal Ned wrote:
Telling the truth about Dawkin's Delusion is no more belittling than classifying people as apes or as sinners would be. If Dawkins belittles Jews, Christians and Muslims then it is apparent to them that he suffers from psychic delusions, mental aberrations and serious spiritual disorders. Dawkin's Delusion is a symptom of degenerative atheism and may be treated spiritually by Christians, Muslims and Jews.
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Nickman wrote: Labeling RD with such nonsense is first, an ad hominem and outright attack. It is cowardly, and shows the desperation these Christians have to try and cast doubt on the man.

Richard Dawkins has the confidence of his convictions that does not make his beliefs any more psychotic than your own or mine or anyones.

He challenges the state of "faith" with scientific facts. Christianity/Religion has and always will be based at is premise on faith.

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