Help: How do I know that your God is the one, true God?

[Kir Komrik]

Hi all,
I'm new here and have just read up on the policies and finished my signature, etc. I hope I've done everything correctly so far.
I would like to believe in an almighty power but the problem is that in my research I've found so many gods out there. Coming from a family that has been explicitly atheist for generations, I'm starting from scratch and am looking at all religions.
I am sincerely curious to know how would I know, for instance, that your god is the one, true God?
Thank you.

[Goat]

The Christian God is one God who manifests into two sub-forms. None of the manifestations is permitted to engage in self worship. Each must worship the opposite part of the Godhead.

He does?? He is??

Really??? That seems to be a large claim. Can you show it to be true.

Call it a hypothesis. Can you prove that the first cell came from outer space? I didn't think so yet I doubt that you have a problem with science making the claim. I can use historical writings to back up my claim. Now where did the first cell come from?

Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu are all part of the same Godhead, and their worship was hundreds of years before Christianity (or even Judaism).

Christianity has its roots in Judaism. Judaism is 6000 years old according to Hebrew geneology. How old are these religions and how do you know?

Actually, Judaism is not 6000 years old.. it just follows a genealogy that can be translated that old..the Jewish scriptures were modified from the Phonetician religion, written down initially around 500 bce., with tradition having the David being about the 10th century bc. .. Assuming that the scriptures came from earlier oral tradition, that would put the Jewish religion at around 3000 to 3500 years old.

The oldest known piece of writing with a pendent with part of a prayer (still in use today) that dates to the 7th century bce.

While I am not sure the methods of dating of the Vedas, they are estimated to be compiled from oral tradition between 1000 and 1500 bce.

[Zetesis Apistia]

The Christian God is one God who manifests into two sub-forms. None of the manifestations is permitted to engage in self worship. Each must worship the opposite part of the Godhead.

He does?? He is??

Really??? That seems to be a large claim. Can you show it to be true.

Call it a hypothesis. Can you prove that the first cell came from outer space? I didn't think so yet I doubt that you have a problem with science making the claim. I can use historical writings to back up my claim. Now where did the first cell come from?

Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu are all part of the same Godhead, and their worship was hundreds of years before Christianity (or even Judaism).

Christianity has its roots in Judaism. Judaism is 6000 years old according to Hebrew geneology. How old are these religions and how do you know?

I guess the same way they know the universe is expanding, ... or wait, is it receding? If it's receding than T=0 more than 13 billion years ago must have been very, very big, and not so small that it fit into 'nothing'. Anyways, I guess they use background radiation to determine who came first; Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu, or the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? I mean who can argue with such technology as background radiation to reveal the past? We only have the Bible.

The bible has yet to be proved wrong. Many scientists have been though.

[Zetesis Apistia]

Actually, Judaism is not 6000 years old.. it just follows a genealogy that can be translated that old..

The Lord made a coat of skins to cover Adam. That is the first type of Christ in Christianity. It is symbolic because Jesus was a lamb that was slain to cover our sins. That is not a contemporary interpretation, it has been handed down since the fall of man. That symbolism is the basis for our belief. So whether it was recorded or passed down orally it is still the beginning of symbolic gestures pointing to Christ.

the Jewish scriptures were modified from the Phonetician religion, written down initially around 500 bce., with tradition having the David being about the 10th century bc. .. Assuming that the scriptures came from earlier oral tradition, that would put the Jewish religion at around 3000 to 3500 years old.

The first five books of Moses dates back to about 3500 years, but Enoch had writings that date back nearly 5500 years. Here is a snip from Jude....
14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
15 ¶ To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
Evidently Jude is quoting from a text.

While I am not sure the methods of dating of the Vedas, they are estimated to be compiled from oral tradition between 1000 and 1500 bce.

Enoch prophesied 2000 years before this.

[Goat]

The bible has yet to be proved wrong. Many scientists have been though.

Please prove this statement. Clairify what you mean 'the bible has yet to be proved wrong'??

This seems to be one of those unsupported claims.

[Nickman]

Actually, Judaism is not 6000 years old.. it just follows a genealogy that can be translated that old..

The Lord made a coat of skins to cover Adam. That is the first type of Christ in Christianity. It is symbolic because Jesus was a lamb that was slain to cover our sins. That is not a contemporary interpretation, it has been handed down since the fall of man. That symbolism is the basis for our belief. So whether it was recorded or passed down orally it is still the beginning of symbolic gestures pointing to Christ.

the Jewish scriptures were modified from the Phonetician religion, written down initially around 500 bce., with tradition having the David being about the 10th century bc. .. Assuming that the scriptures came from earlier oral tradition, that would put the Jewish religion at around 3000 to 3500 years old.

The first five books of Moses dates back to about 3500 years, but Enoch had writings that date back nearly 5500 years. Here is a snip from Jude....
14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
15 ¶ To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
Evidently Jude is quoting from a text.

While I am not sure the methods of dating of the Vedas, they are estimated to be compiled from oral tradition between 1000 and 1500 bce.

Enoch prophesied 2000 years before this.

You have not one text that dates back to (3500-5500) years. You have texts that are dated to be speaking of a time frame somewhere in that range.

[Zetesis Apistia]

The bible has yet to be proved wrong. Many scientists have been though.

Please prove this statement. Clairify what you mean 'the bible has yet to be proved wrong'??

This seems to be one of those unsupported claims.

The bible is quite a large book. Which part do you want me to defend? Be specific?

[Zetesis Apistia]

Actually, Judaism is not 6000 years old.. it just follows a genealogy that can be translated that old..

The Lord made a coat of skins to cover Adam. That is the first type of Christ in Christianity. It is symbolic because Jesus was a lamb that was slain to cover our sins. That is not a contemporary interpretation, it has been handed down since the fall of man. That symbolism is the basis for our belief. So whether it was recorded or passed down orally it is still the beginning of symbolic gestures pointing to Christ.

the Jewish scriptures were modified from the Phonetician religion, written down initially around 500 bce., with tradition having the David being about the 10th century bc. .. Assuming that the scriptures came from earlier oral tradition, that would put the Jewish religion at around 3000 to 3500 years old.

The first five books of Moses dates back to about 3500 years, but Enoch had writings that date back nearly 5500 years. Here is a snip from Jude....
14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
15 ¶ To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
Evidently Jude is quoting from a text.

While I am not sure the methods of dating of the Vedas, they are estimated to be compiled from oral tradition between 1000 and 1500 bce.

Enoch prophesied 2000 years before this.

You have not one text that dates back to (3500-5500) years. You have texts that are dated to be speaking of a time frame somewhere in that range.

There are two works that are referred to in scripture that must have been lost to time. The book of Jasher and the book of Enoch. The book of Jasher exists today, but how much it has been corrupted through translation is not known. Apparently these books were part of Judaism because they are both referenced in the bible.

Jos 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
2Sa 1:18 (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)

Jude1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
15 ¶ To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

There are some discrepancies as to the date of Jasher, but Enoch lived around 3500 b.c. If he wrote anything, and apparently he did, because there is a reference quote from him in Jude, then his writing would have to be around 5500 years. You may dispute the claim, but what can you counter claim with?

[Goat]

The bible has yet to be proved wrong. Many scientists have been though.

Please prove this statement. Clairify what you mean 'the bible has yet to be proved wrong'??

This seems to be one of those unsupported claims.

The bible is quite a large book. Which part do you want me to defend? Be specific?

Let's see..

I want you to show defend the claim for the world wide flood.

[Nickman]

There are two works that are referred to in scripture that must have been lost to time. The book of Jasher and the book of Enoch. The book of Jasher exists today, but how much it has been corrupted through translation is not known. Apparently these books were part of Judaism because they are both referenced in the bible.

Which makes my point. You have nothing dating to the dates you gave. The book of Jasher is not referenced in the bible. The book of the just or yasher is however. Jasher comes from hayashar, or the upright and just.

There are some discrepancies as to the date of Jasher, but Enoch lived around 3500 b.c. If he wrote anything, and apparently he did, because there is a reference quote from him in Jude, then his writing would have to be around 5500 years. You may dispute the claim, but what can you counter claim with?

We still have no text dating to thisntime frame. We have assumption that the referenced book is from this time, but we have no actual text.

[Zetesis Apistia]

The bible has yet to be proved wrong. Many scientists have been though.

Please prove this statement. Clairify what you mean 'the bible has yet to be proved wrong'??

This seems to be one of those unsupported claims.

The bible is quite a large book. Which part do you want me to defend? Be specific?

Let's see..

I want you to show defend the claim for the world wide flood.

The Grand Canyon has marine fossils towards the top of the Grand Canyon, almost a mile above sea level. That is one bit of evidence that supports a worldwide flood.