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Is homosexuality worse than heterosexual infidelity?

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I don't normally copy and paste an article but this is great stuff. At the end I have a question.
The morning after Chick-fil-A day
AUGUST 2, 2012 BY MIKE PATZ 1 COMMENT

Its the morning after the Chick-fil-A drama and Im still chewing.

I remember the day I was sitting next to an incredibly nice gay guy, enjoying a really good conversation when he dropped the ultimate conversation-killer.

What do you do for a living?

I hate that question. I hate that question because people cant help but size you up when they hear the answer. I hate that question because were already prone to think of ourselves as human doings instead of human beings. I hate that question because of what it does to people when they find out what I do.

Ive often tried to find ways around the question. Ive told people I work with non-profit organizations (this is true). Ive told people that I write (this is true). Ive even told people that I am a spiritual guru that assists people in opening their third eye (I really like this one). For whatever reason, on that day, I just cut to the chase. I work as a pastor of a church.

Everything changed. His next words went something like this:

Listen, Im gay and Im content with who I am. Im sure you are going to say that I was not born this way, and I wont argue the point. For a significant part of my childhood I was violated by a neighbor and then an uncle. Did that play a role in my sexual orientation? Possibly. I also know many people that had a trouble-free childhood and they turned out very happily gay. Regardless of how it occurred, this is who I am now and I make no apologies for the man I have become. If God has a problem with a man who tries to be true to himself, then I have a problem with a God that allows these kinds of things to happen to kids like me in the first place.

I kept thinking how much easier it would have been if I said I was a writer.


Fortunately, Jesus has a way of showing up in the middle of conversations just like these, and on that day He did not disappoint. My friend shared his heart, and I shared mine. Ive never seen people change via argument, which is why I prefer to help people taste and see that the Lord is good.

This is where Christians tend to blow it.

They taste really bad. They serve up some really Biblical truth in some really nauseating ways. They major on minors and minor on majors. They tend to be extremely unaware of their pride, and pride is like bad breath " everybody knows you have it, except for you. Its always easy to scream the loudest about sins you do not personally struggle with.

So why are we yelling?

Im still not sure why Christians are so militant in their opposition of homosexual immorality while they seem to go so mild with their opposition of heterosexual immorality. I hear the concern about homosexuality and the catch phrase is often family values: Imagine how much it will mess up a child who is being raised by two women, the reasoning goes. A kid needs both a father and a mother, we say. Yet the gays I speak with often wonder how the church can talk about family values when 50-60% of Christian couples divorce. Talk about family values. So a community of people that do not stay married is trying to talk to us about marital morality. How ironic.

In light of the fact that Christians have just as much pre-marital sex and watch just as much porn and divorce just as frequently why arent we more embarrassed to speak out on the issue of homosexual sin? Good question.

One guy said, Its funny how you can claim the grace of God to cover heterosexual sin while saying that homosexual sin is beyond the reach of Gods grace.

That brings me to all the Chick"fil-A drama.

I get why Chick-fil-A day looked so annoying to so many people yesterday. I understand why people have planned a kiss-in this Friday. And I can see why people shake their heads when they read yet another homophobic Facebook post.

Church people ask, why wont our culture repent? My answer: because repentance is a learned behavior. Someone has to model it. I tell parents that its silly to expect a child to repent when they have never seen a parent repent. And its futile to wait for a culture to repent when a culture has never seen the Church repent.

Is the real problem with our culture the unrepentant gay community? No. Its an unrepentant Church.

I am so sorry today for all the hatred that Christians have dished out toward gays. I am so sorry for all of the homophobic sarcasm that has come from the pulpits of Christian ministers. I am so sorry for the way we pick and choose which sins to condemn. I am so sorry that we have claimed to follow Jesus while we neglected widows and orphans, and then engaged in gossip and gluttony. I am so sorry that we have provided such a bad example for the rest of society to follow. Im embarrassed, Im ashamed, and I repent. Im serious. I repent.

Yet Im also concerned that when our culture most needs to hear truth, Christians dont know how to tell it.

Weve come to a dangerous moment in culture, and Christians are ill-equipped to handle it. We have reached the point where disagreement is now seen as hatred. I read an article today where a woman was appealing to Christians to recognize their hateful crimes against the homosexual community. I nodded in agreement, but decided to keep reading to see how she itemized these crimes. Paragraph after paragraph described the hurt and rejection resulting from these offenses, but it took a while to get to the actual crime: Christians claim that homosexuality is a sin. I was stunned. Disagreement was equated with hate.

Christians have a substantial challenge on their hands because every generation and every culture is going to disagree with Gods truth at some point. How interesting that our USAmerican culture considers Christianity to be closed-minded on the issue of sexual morality, while the majority of world religions are in agreement in opposition to the USA position on sexuality. Is USA culture not closed-minded for claiming that all these other religions are wrong? Is it not hypocrisy to say that we will be tolerant with everybody " except the people we consider intolerant. Closed-mindedness is not just a religious thing, its a human thing.

If ever Christians needed some good breath, it is now.

Because we have to kiss this world with the truth of God.

The problem is, no matter how good your kiss, your breath can ruin the whole experience. And no matter how much truth we bring, if it does not drip with grace and humility, it always falls flat.

Im not asking Christians to stop telling the truth, Im asking them to brush their teeth.

What does that look like? The apostle Paul said to speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy towards all people. (Titus 3:2)

Can you imagine what would happen if an entire chunk of Christians decided to embrace the Titus 3:2 approach? Will people be staging protests and kiss-ins to protest Chick-fil-A? Maybe. But the way of Jesus is to speak evil of no one. Has Chick-fil-A been bullied? Yes. But the kingdom of Jesus response is to avoid quarreling. Is there more drama to come as our culture becomes increasingly polarized? Of course. But if God is our Father, then we have to start showing the family resemblance, being gentle and showing perfect courtesy. This should have an effect on the way we post our thoughts on Facebook. Or talk to angry people at work. Or wait in line at Chick-fil-A.

You see, we cant shrink back on truth-telling or we dishonor the very Gospel. But when we bring the truth of Jesus we have to do it in the Spirit of Jesus.

Or stop being surprised when our culture doesnt want a kiss.
Is homosexuality worse than heterosexual infidelity? If not, why do Christians hate gay people so much? If the two are equally bad, why do so many Christians who would never be gay cheat on their wife?
Matthew 16:26
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26 For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?

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99percentatheism wrote:
Allahakbar wrote:
bluethread wrote:
Allahakbar wrote:
bluethread wrote: That is a good anti-bullying video. However, is the other message that everyone who acts on their feelings, should have those actions accepted, no matter what they are?
So you didn't get it then. How very sad and yet so very understandable. I am sorry for you and any children you may have.
I get that bullying is not an acceptable way to deal with social differences. I am just asking if it is acceptable to recognize social differences and how do you believe one should do that. After all, the thread is comparing homosexuality to infidelity. If the video was exactly the same, but fidelity was seen as abnormal and promiscuity was the norm, would you consider the video to be just as legitimate?
Actually no, the thread is questioning the validity of both. You believe that homosexuality is an abomination and deserves approbation and in fact deserves eternal torture. That video shows the ignorance and hate of the anti homosexuals. I am not surprised at all that the religious didn't get it, it was made for the intelligent humans.

While the hysteria inherent in your insulting "the religious" is to be expected when deling with gay activists, the whole propaganda technique of labeling as "hate" any disdain, disgust or opposition to homosexuality is part of an overall "agenda" to manipulate the minds of the masses.

It is an age-old technique.

That you so effortlessly violate the rules here by lodging personal insults is also something the Bible has dealt with accurately:
Get out of our way, the Sodomites replied. This fellow came here as a foreigner, and now he wants to play the judge!

Well treat you worse than them.

They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door.
The whole angry rabble-mob-to get-your-way tactic is still used to overwhelm the decent people in society to this day.

In fact, it was just used to defeat the Texas legislature trying to vote in a new law on abortion a few days ago.
Now you've started a whole new ball game. Are you seriously claiming that a fringe minority erstwhile "christian" sect are the decent people? When they are shunned by all religions except the KKK?
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KCKID
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KCKID wrote: I think it's high time that Christians stopped this vendetta against gay people. Just leave them alone. Lord knows, there is so much more with which they could be occupying their time. Here are a few:

- Overpopulation - too many people; no food, water, housing, etc.
- Pollution - environmental damages
- Global Warming - chlorofluorocarbons, etc.
- War - people killing each other ...for what reasons ...?
- Stupidity - general population becoming more and more ignorant and media brainwashed and more concerned with who stays or who gets eliminated from a TV cooking show than they are with those who will go to bed hungry tonight...*sigh*
- Obesity/Disease - people dying from poor decisions or bad luck
- Habitat Destruction - people destroy nature to make room for more people
- Species Extinction - above practices causing diversity of life to diminish
- Religion - People believe many conflicting ideas that lead to conflict

Leave the gays alone and do something worth while!
They won't leave us alone KID. There is absolutely no reason why LGBT's have to label our beliefs as hate, bigotry and this whackadoodle neologism "homophobia" but they just won't be nice. They seem Marx-bent to make us all celebrate their sexual behaviors.
Don't kid yourself that YOUR message is anything other than hostile, negative, unloving, pious and condemning. This is the ONLY reason that the other labels are applied to you. Do the math.
Then Jesus, Peter, Jude, James, John, Paul and the rest of the Christians in Church history that have preached a Gospel of repentance and forgiveness for your sins, wear the same label as I do.

But I have to point out, your propaganda techniques have been applied to us for a very long time. The Romans in the beginnings of The Church, labeled us "Enemies of mankind."

Hmmm, how history does repeat itself.
As for the whackadoodle neologism "homophobia" ...that is oftentimes the correct word to use. People are afraid of anything they don't understand.
I think that gay sexual behavior is about as easy to understand as walking around a trenchcoat wearing stranger on a darkened street corner. You seem unaware that Christians used to not be Christian at one point in their life. We know the world and its ways pal.
They don't understand that homosexuality is an innate sexual 'condition' in an otherwise perfectly 'normal' human being.
That has only been changes since about the 70's. A very clever agenda tactic.
In other words, homophobes are merely ignorant people who sometimes respond to things of which they're afraid with hostility.
Like labeling the intense beauty of the Gospel as hate speech and outlawing any expression of Christian beleifs in schools? No is that ignoranc or hate that some people fear the Gospel so much they have to outlaw its very mention?
Is this you, 99percent? You DO come across as fitting the definition.
To those conditioned by the morality of the secularist world.

I couldn't care less KID. I'm far luckier than the disciples and others that the secularists slaughtered after hearing a Christian message. At least though, I'm not slaughtered physically. You can see what is being done to us right now by the more rabid secularists in the gay activism movement.

99percentatheism wrote:Hey, that reminds me of the old school "community":

Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom"both young and old"surrounded the house. They called to Lot, Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.

Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, No, my friends. Dont do this wicked thing. Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But dont do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.

Get out of our way, they replied. This fellow came here as a foreigner, and now he wants to play the judge! Well treat you worse than them. They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door.

Genesis 19 (Lot in Sodom)
Oh dear, ignorance of scripture at play again. I don't know which town you live in, 99percent, but I can honestly report to you that I have never come across personally - nor have I ever heard of - a group of heterosexual people pounding on someone's door demanding that the host bring out angels to be gang-raped as an example of that town's custom of unwelcoming strangers. Where DO you live ...Sodom?
No. I have never lived in either San Francisco or Boston.
Please, 99percent, if you MUST hate gays then do so within the confines of your own mind (or church) but DON'T produce scriptures that have NOTHING to do with homosexuality. Be a man and do the right thing. Okay?
Men raping men, whiuch is s exual act, is homosexuality. No different than male adult on male youth we see so prevalent in Catholic gay priests scandals.

Homosexuality is same gender sex acts.

Do you need me to point you to some biology and physiology websites?
99percentatheism wrote:Can you imagine what would happen to an Evangelical Church that tried to have services tonight in West Hollywood?
You DO realize that some on this forum don't know what you're talking about, don't you? Is West Hollywood predominantly 'gay'?
I think it has the highest percentage of gays in the country.
Is that what you mean? If so and the Evangelical Church preaches a message of condemnation to them and therefore antagonizes them ...why don't you use a different approach?
Sin is sin KID. And we are dealing with powers and principalities that are far more intelligent than people populating gay bars.
Have you ever tried preaching the LOVE message of Jesus to gay and straight 'sinners'? Just a thought.
It's people like you tht label that a hate crime.
99percentatheism wrote:That is, IF, there are any Evangelical Churches in West Hollywood.
Well, it seems to me that, if anything, YOU and YOURS are the real examples of the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. They didn't welcome strangers and would intimidate a stranger with rape to drive them out of their city.
You seem to hint that you may be a Christian.

You have just compared the preaching of the Gospel to a mob of men raping visitors to their wicked city.

You just did that right?
Once the 'gay lens' are removed this is CLEARLY the message of S&G.
It's not a messga eof preaching repentance for sins. You and yours demand that preaching that homosexuality is a sin is hate and bigotry.

You are demonstrating inhospitality towards Christians. In fact, with harm being attached to your agenda. The boycotting of Christians is a real activity employed by gay activists and their legion of supports.
As per your 'Gay Church' thread, you are suggesting the very same thing ...only minus the rape.
That is a very disturbing opinion of that thread you hold and the message of salvation inherent in the Gospel.
You flaunt the fact that you and your church are most unwelcoming to gays.
Why would any Church welcome in people that demand to corrupt the mesage of the Gospel?
Would you not say that you and yours are the REAL Sodomites?
That would be blasphemous.

But I realize that you and yours take this opinion and implement it into society worldwide.

It appears that The Church is now caught between Islam and Gay Activism, with the adherants of secularism threatening it as well.

Of course.

And at least I know what side you assert that you are on.

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Re: Is homosexuality worse than heterosexual infidelity?

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David didn't think repentance was a hate crime:

Psalm 51

For the director of music. A psalm of David. When the prophet Nathan came to him after David had committed adultery with Bathsheba.


Have mercy on me, O God,
according to your unfailing love;
according to your great compassion
blot out my transgressions.
Wash away all my iniquity
and cleanse me from my sin.

For I know my transgressions,
and my sin is always before me.
Against you, you only, have I sinned
and done what is evil in your sight;
so you are right in your verdict
and justified when you judge.

Surely I was sinful at birth,
sinful from the time my mother conceived me.
Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb;
you taught me wisdom in that secret place.

Cleanse me with hyssop, and I will be clean;
wash me, and I will be whiter than snow.
Let me hear joy and gladness;
let the bones you have crushed rejoice.
Hide your face from my sins
and blot out all my iniquity.

Create in me a pure heart, O God,
and renew a steadfast spirit within me.
Do not cast me from your presence
or take your Holy Spirit from me.
Restore to me the joy of your salvation
and grant me a willing spirit, to sustain me.

Then I will teach transgressors your ways,
so that sinners will turn back to you.

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99percentatheism wrote: It appears that The Church is now caught between Islam and Gay Activism, with the adherants of secularism threatening it as well.
There is so much wrong with this post that it would take hours to address and I don't have the time or patience atm.
But here is something beyond belief.
WHAT IS THE CHURCH? 99?
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bluethread wrote: That is a good anti-bullying video. However, is the other message that everyone who acts on their feelings, should have those actions accepted, no matter what they are?
So you didn't get it then. How very sad and yet so very understandable. I am sorry for you and any children you may have.


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99percentatheism wrote: It appears that The Church is now caught between Islam and Gay Activism, with the adherants of secularism threatening it as well.
There is so much wrong with this post that it would take hours to address and I don't have the time or patience atm.
I notice with great fascination that the modern secularist suffers cognitive dissonance when confronted with reality as it pertains to Christians in all actuality.
But here is something beyond belief.

WHAT IS THE CHURCH? 99?
The Called Out Ones. The assembly of the Lord.

While I definately applaud you for asking a very valuable question, I'm sure that answering your question would be something very difficult for you to want to deal with.

And also, on this website, we are not allowed, per some rules, to ascribe to the adversaries of The Church (inside and outside of it), proper demonic defintions.

But I think "In the world and not of it . . ." is probably a good place to start.

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99percentatheism wrote: Allahakbar
99percentatheism wrote: It appears that The Church is now caught between Islam and Gay Activism, with the adherants of secularism threatening it as well.
There is so much wrong with this post that it would take hours to address and I don't have the time or patience atm.
I notice with great fascination that the modern secularist suffers cognitive dissonance when confronted with reality as it pertains to Christians in all actuality.
But here is something beyond belief.

WHAT IS THE CHURCH? 99?
The Called Out Ones. The assembly of the Lord.

While I definately applaud you for asking a very valuable question, I'm sure that answering your question would be something very difficult for you to want to deal with.

And also, on this website, we are not allowed, per some rules, to ascribe to the adversaries of The Church (inside and outside of it), proper demonic defintions.

But I think "In the world and not of it . . ." is probably a good place to start.
Is it a little whitewashed one like the Phelps one. Your own private little "family" sect? Or are you to ashamed to declare what this church is?
"Holy Scripture: A book sent down from heaven.... Holy Scriptures contain all that a Christian should know and believe, provided he adds to it a million or so commentaries.

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Allahakbar wrote:
99percentatheism wrote: Allahakbar
99percentatheism wrote: It appears that The Church is now caught between Islam and Gay Activism, with the adherants of secularism threatening it as well.
There is so much wrong with this post that it would take hours to address and I don't have the time or patience atm.
I notice with great fascination that the modern secularist suffers cognitive dissonance when confronted with reality as it pertains to Christians in all actuality.
But here is something beyond belief.

WHAT IS THE CHURCH? 99?
The Called Out Ones. The assembly of the Lord.

While I definately applaud you for asking a very valuable question, I'm sure that answering your question would be something very difficult for you to want to deal with.

And also, on this website, we are not allowed, per some rules, to ascribe to the adversaries of The Church (inside and outside of it), proper demonic defintions.

But I think "In the world and not of it . . ." is probably a good place to start.
Is it a little whitewashed one like the Phelps one. Your own private little "family" sect? Or are you to ashamed to declare what this church is?
Your kurt little dry responses show that you have no clue how to debate the subject of Christian orthodoxy. (But I guess you use two-liners to keep from getting reported.)

Read the Nicene Creed and the Apostles Creed and figure this out for yourself. There are many qualifying factors for being a Christian. And many denominations hold to the same truths.

If I must produce the texts for you then I will be happy to oblige.

It's the Christian thing to do.

www.google.com

There you find the necessary search engine for your quest to find its results.

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99percentatheism wrote: I notice with great fascination that the modern secularist suffers cognitive dissonance when confronted with reality as it pertains to Christians in all actuality.
Allahakbar wrote: Or are you to ashamed to declare what this church is?
99percentatheism wrote: Your kurt little dry responses show that you have no clue how to debate the subject of Christian orthodoxy.
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I don't normally copy and paste an article but this is great stuff. At the end I have a question.
The morning after Chick-fil-A day
AUGUST 2, 2012 BY MIKE PATZ 1 COMMENT

Its the morning after the Chick-fil-A drama and Im still chewing.

I remember the day I was sitting next to an incredibly nice gay guy, enjoying a really good conversation when he dropped the ultimate conversation-killer.

What do you do for a living?

I hate that question. I hate that question because people cant help but size you up when they hear the answer. I hate that question because were already prone to think of ourselves as human doings instead of human beings. I hate that question because of what it does to people when they find out what I do.

Ive often tried to find ways around the question. Ive told people I work with non-profit organizations (this is true). Ive told people that I write (this is true). Ive even told people that I am a spiritual guru that assists people in opening their third eye (I really like this one). For whatever reason, on that day, I just cut to the chase. I work as a pastor of a church.

Everything changed. His next words went something like this:

Listen, Im gay and Im content with who I am. Im sure you are going to say that I was not born this way, and I wont argue the point. For a significant part of my childhood I was violated by a neighbor and then an uncle. Did that play a role in my sexual orientation? Possibly. I also know many people that had a trouble-free childhood and they turned out very happily gay. Regardless of how it occurred, this is who I am now and I make no apologies for the man I have become. If God has a problem with a man who tries to be true to himself, then I have a problem with a God that allows these kinds of things to happen to kids like me in the first place.

I kept thinking how much easier it would have been if I said I was a writer.


Fortunately, Jesus has a way of showing up in the middle of conversations just like these, and on that day He did not disappoint. My friend shared his heart, and I shared mine. Ive never seen people change via argument, which is why I prefer to help people taste and see that the Lord is good.

This is where Christians tend to blow it.

They taste really bad. They serve up some really Biblical truth in some really nauseating ways. They major on minors and minor on majors. They tend to be extremely unaware of their pride, and pride is like bad breath " everybody knows you have it, except for you. Its always easy to scream the loudest about sins you do not personally struggle with.

So why are we yelling?

Im still not sure why Christians are so militant in their opposition of homosexual immorality while they seem to go so mild with their opposition of heterosexual immorality. I hear the concern about homosexuality and the catch phrase is often family values: Imagine how much it will mess up a child who is being raised by two women, the reasoning goes. A kid needs both a father and a mother, we say. Yet the gays I speak with often wonder how the church can talk about family values when 50-60% of Christian couples divorce. Talk about family values. So a community of people that do not stay married is trying to talk to us about marital morality. How ironic.

In light of the fact that Christians have just as much pre-marital sex and watch just as much porn and divorce just as frequently why arent we more embarrassed to speak out on the issue of homosexual sin? Good question.

One guy said, Its funny how you can claim the grace of God to cover heterosexual sin while saying that homosexual sin is beyond the reach of Gods grace.

That brings me to all the Chick"fil-A drama.

I get why Chick-fil-A day looked so annoying to so many people yesterday. I understand why people have planned a kiss-in this Friday. And I can see why people shake their heads when they read yet another homophobic Facebook post.

Church people ask, why wont our culture repent? My answer: because repentance is a learned behavior. Someone has to model it. I tell parents that its silly to expect a child to repent when they have never seen a parent repent. And its futile to wait for a culture to repent when a culture has never seen the Church repent.

Is the real problem with our culture the unrepentant gay community? No. Its an unrepentant Church.

I am so sorry today for all the hatred that Christians have dished out toward gays. I am so sorry for all of the homophobic sarcasm that has come from the pulpits of Christian ministers. I am so sorry for the way we pick and choose which sins to condemn. I am so sorry that we have claimed to follow Jesus while we neglected widows and orphans, and then engaged in gossip and gluttony. I am so sorry that we have provided such a bad example for the rest of society to follow. Im embarrassed, Im ashamed, and I repent. Im serious. I repent.

Yet Im also concerned that when our culture most needs to hear truth, Christians dont know how to tell it.

Weve come to a dangerous moment in culture, and Christians are ill-equipped to handle it. We have reached the point where disagreement is now seen as hatred. I read an article today where a woman was appealing to Christians to recognize their hateful crimes against the homosexual community. I nodded in agreement, but decided to keep reading to see how she itemized these crimes. Paragraph after paragraph described the hurt and rejection resulting from these offenses, but it took a while to get to the actual crime: Christians claim that homosexuality is a sin. I was stunned. Disagreement was equated with hate.

Christians have a substantial challenge on their hands because every generation and every culture is going to disagree with Gods truth at some point. How interesting that our USAmerican culture considers Christianity to be closed-minded on the issue of sexual morality, while the majority of world religions are in agreement in opposition to the USA position on sexuality. Is USA culture not closed-minded for claiming that all these other religions are wrong? Is it not hypocrisy to say that we will be tolerant with everybody " except the people we consider intolerant. Closed-mindedness is not just a religious thing, its a human thing.

If ever Christians needed some good breath, it is now.

Because we have to kiss this world with the truth of God.

The problem is, no matter how good your kiss, your breath can ruin the whole experience. And no matter how much truth we bring, if it does not drip with grace and humility, it always falls flat.

Im not asking Christians to stop telling the truth, Im asking them to brush their teeth.

What does that look like? The apostle Paul said to speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy towards all people. (Titus 3:2)

Can you imagine what would happen if an entire chunk of Christians decided to embrace the Titus 3:2 approach? Will people be staging protests and kiss-ins to protest Chick-fil-A? Maybe. But the way of Jesus is to speak evil of no one. Has Chick-fil-A been bullied? Yes. But the kingdom of Jesus response is to avoid quarreling. Is there more drama to come as our culture becomes increasingly polarized? Of course. But if God is our Father, then we have to start showing the family resemblance, being gentle and showing perfect courtesy. This should have an effect on the way we post our thoughts on Facebook. Or talk to angry people at work. Or wait in line at Chick-fil-A.

You see, we cant shrink back on truth-telling or we dishonor the very Gospel. But when we bring the truth of Jesus we have to do it in the Spirit of Jesus.

Or stop being surprised when our culture doesnt want a kiss.
Is homosexuality worse than heterosexual infidelity?
Yes. Not only have you demonstrated that homosexuality is wrong by the comparing of two wrongs, infidelity is an act that must be repented of. Homosexuals as currently seen, demand that homosexuality is not a sin.
If not, why do Christians hate gay people so much?
This is a violation of the rules here. Not only is it an absurd accusation, but it is just insult and slander.
If the two are equally bad, why do so many Christians who would never be gay cheat on their wife?
Prove that accusation. All you have done is prove that BOTH behaviors are sin. But you haven't proven "so many" at all.

But if and when you do, your only conclusion is that both actions and behaviors are sins.

Read Pslam 51 for your answer to sins and sinning. Infidelity and all. And maybe you don't know this, but gay theology holds that David was gay at one point in his life. Now, since David was an Israelite, that more than likely is wrong theologically, but repentance is still appropriate and certainly according to David and his great, great, great grandson Jesus called Christ, repenting for sexual sins is not a hate crime.

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