? A Question For All Former Christians Who Fell Away ?

YahDough · Post by **YahDough** » Mon May 06, 2013 11:06 pm

This is a question addressed only to former Christians who have left the faith.

Why did you become a Christian?
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help3434 · Post by **help3434** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:47 am

[Replying to post 97 by YahDough]

Why did you believe that the concept of peace and salvation through God was meaningful before you became a Christian?

YahDough · Post by **YahDough** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:19 pm

help3434 wrote: [Replying to post 97 by YahDough]

Why did you believe that the concept of peace and salvation through God was meaningful before you became a Christian?

It is part of the Christian "doctrine" and I believe it as such. Do you want the verses? I didn't say I believed it before I became a Christian although I may have wanted it. Who doesn't consider "peace and salvation" meaningful?

Goat · Post by **Goat** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:44 pm

YahDough wrote:
help3434 wrote: [Replying to post 97 by YahDough]

Why did you believe that the concept of peace and salvation through God was meaningful before you became a Christian?
It is part of the Christian "doctrine" and I believe it as such. Do you want the verses? I didn't say I believed it before I became a Christian although I may have wanted it. Who doesn't consider "peace and salvation" meaningful?

I don't see the need for 'salvation'?? Salvation from what?

YahDough · Post by **YahDough** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:55 pm

Goat wrote:
YahDough wrote:
help3434 wrote: [Replying to post 97 by YahDough]

Why did you believe that the concept of peace and salvation through God was meaningful before you became a Christian?
It is part of the Christian "doctrine" and I believe it as such. Do you want the verses? I didn't say I believed it before I became a Christian although I may have wanted it. Who doesn't consider "peace and salvation" meaningful?

I don't see the need for 'salvation'?? Salvation from what?

Eternal/everlasting death.

Goat · Post by **Goat** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:26 pm

YahDough wrote:
Goat wrote:
YahDough wrote:
help3434 wrote: [Replying to post 97 by YahDough]

Why did you believe that the concept of peace and salvation through God was meaningful before you became a Christian?
It is part of the Christian "doctrine" and I believe it as such. Do you want the verses? I didn't say I believed it before I became a Christian although I may have wanted it. Who doesn't consider "peace and salvation" meaningful?

I don't see the need for 'salvation'?? Salvation from what?
Eternal/everlasting death.

Well, why do you need it? You either have everlasting death or you don't. I don't see any evidence that ANYBODY escapes 'everlasting death'. And I don't see seeking this Christian concept of salvation is needed to escape it.

It's sort of like a snake oil cure, for a disease that is totally fictional

help3434 · Post by **help3434** » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:22 pm

[Replying to post 103 by YahDough]

Why would you believe that salvation is even a real thing if you were not yet a Christian?

YahDough · Post by **YahDough** » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:58 pm

help3434 wrote: [Replying to post 103 by YahDough]

Why would you believe that salvation is even a real thing if you were not yet a Christian?

For me, the "hope" of salvation came before believing that it could/would be possible through Christ.

OnceConvinced · Post by **OnceConvinced** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:12 pm

I was indoctronated into it from birth. I was given no other options. Jesus and the bible was taught as fact along with everything else you learn as a small child. There was no difference between the teaching that Jesus was the one true God and 1 + 1 = 2.

At 7years old I fully beleived in Jesus and believed that I needed to give my life to Christ. I continued to believe without question and as a teenager began to grab the bull by the horns" as it were, serving God because I desired to (I genuinely believed in and loved Jesus) not just because my parents expected me to.

YahDough · Post by **YahDough** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:25 am

OnceConvinced wrote:
I was indoctronated into it from birth. I was given no other options. Jesus and the bible was taught as fact along with everything else you learn as a small child. There was no difference between the teaching that Jesus was the one true God and 1 + 1 = 2.
Being indoctrinated into something with no other options sounds like a hard way to have to begin your walk with God, especially when the doctrine isn't exactly accurate.

At 7years old I fully beleived in Jesus and believed that I needed to give my life to Christ. I continued to believe without question and as a teenager began to grab the bull by the horns" as it were, serving God because I desired to (I genuinely believed in and loved Jesus) not just because my parents expected me to.
Were you born again and baptised with the Holy Ghost at 7?

OnceConvinced · Post by **OnceConvinced** » Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:18 pm

YahDough wrote:
Being indoctrinated into something with no other options sounds like a hard way to have to begin your walk with God, especially when the doctrine isn't exactly accurate.

And exactly what doctrines was I taught that you believe weren't accurate?

Before you answer that this world is full of Christians who believe that their doctrines are the correct ones while every other denominations are wrong. If you try to tell me that you are from that one denomination that has 100% correct doctrines then there's no way I can take you seriously.

It was definitely not hard to walk with God. It was very easy, because I believed in Jesus without question. I had the pure faith of a child, which Jesus said is what we should have.

YahDough wrote:
Were you born again and baptised with the Holy Ghost at 7?

Of course! When you are born again you automatically recieve the holy ghost. The bible tells us that. But if you want to come at it from a pentecostal perspective, I was part of a pentecostal church in my early 13s that taught being baptised in the holy spirit was something special that needed to be done on top of being born again and yes I did officially get "baptised in the holy spirit" around that age as once again I was indoctronated to believe it was necessary.

I know where you're going with this as I've seen it many times before on sites like this and others. You're going to try to claim I wasn't a true Christian. yeah yeah yeah, whatever!