Dad, mom ...I'm ...um, I'm gay

[KCKID]

The title/subtitle says it all. This scenario must have occurred many, many times. We've all heard, read or seen instances of this and the types of responses that parents of their gay children have given. While we only seem to have a handful of vocal anti-gay Christians on this forum, I'm genuinely curious as to how they would react if their son or daughter came to them and told them that they're gay. Others, feel free to offer your input.

The question again: How would you (a Christian) respond to your son or your daughter coming out to you that they are gay? Without revealing any more than you need to, has this actually happened to any of you ...either as a gay son/daughter or as a parent?

[help3434]

[Replying to KCKID]

I would acknowledge their feelings but tell them not to act upon the feelings as we should not act on other feelings that may lead to sin. The urge to lie, the urge to commit adultery, the urge to steal are real feelings but if acted upon results in going against God's will.

If the child is only attracted to the same sex you are basically telling him that he can never enter into a romantic relationship with someone he is attracted to and must remain celibate for the rest of his life.

[help3434]

I find it some what strange for someone who doesn't believe in God to even care about morality.[

Why?

So what do you base your views of right and wrong on?

People live their lives and throughout their lives they can perceive that some things are good and help people, and some things are bad and hurt people. No God or Bible required.

[Dokimas]

[Replying to post 87 by KCKID]

The OP asked Christians for their response. I believe myself to be a Christian; I responded.

[Dokimas]

[Replying to post 101 by help3434]

As far as your statement goes: yes.

[Dokimas]

[Replying to post 102 by help3434]

Or God created each one with a conscience or moral compass.

[KCKID]

[Replying to post 87 by KCKID]

The OP asked Christians for their response. I believe myself to be a Christian; I responded.

And I thank you for that ...but you mentioned "God's will" and I asked what that meant. That term (God's will) is used constantly by Christians but, when asked, they appear to be at a loss as to what it actually means.

[Dokimas]

[Replying to post 106 by KCKID]

Are you asking for quoted Bible texts on sins?

[KCKID]

[Replying to KCKID]

I would acknowledge their feelings but tell them not to act upon the feelings as we should not act on other feelings that may lead to sin. The urge to lie, the urge to commit adultery, the urge to steal are real feelings but if acted upon results in going against God's will.

So you would tell them to disobey Jesus and NOT love?

It is possible to love someone of the same sex and not want to have sex with the south end of their digestive tract....come to think of it the north end as well.

While I'm sure that the love shared between any couple that choose a life-time together - gay or straight - involves much more than sex it COULD be argued that 'normal sex' as allegedly designed by 'the Creator' is, while pleasurable, rather 'yecchh' when one thinks about it. That said, what you say above would be the acts that are practiced with more frequency by the majority group of heterosexuals than by the minority group of homosexuals. If you apply your crude remark to heterosexuals that do the very same thing does that make them 'guilty of sin'? If so, what do you intend to do about it ...impose a ban on heterosexual 'north and south' sex acts? Or, does the ban only exist for homosexuals?

You DO realize that your argument - such as it is - is rather nonsensical, don't you?

If heterosexuals practice anal sex then yes they are sinning. I thought this thread was about homosexuality so that is why I targeted that group.

The thread IS about a gay child confronting his/her parents. YOU, however, specifically targeted homosexuals with a sexual practice that could just as well be aimed at heterosexuals. And THAT is what I responded to.

Are we discussing heterosexuals as well now?

We ARE bringing heterosexuals into the mix when you apply so-called 'sinful' sexual behavior as though SOLELY to homosexuals that heterosexuals commonly practice. Come on, S.H, don't play simple . . .

You asked what am I going to do about it?? Why would I do anything about it? Is it my job to be some kind of sex police?

Well, you might be just as zealous targeting heterosexuals for THEIR 'sinful' sexual behavior as you are with targeting homosexuals. And yes, it would appear that many a Christian appears to be some kind of moral cop. Otherwise they would keep their noses out of what couples - preferentially gay couples, it would seem - might get up to when intimate within the privacy of their own homes.

But, anyway, back to the thread topic.

This thread is about a 'gay child'. For some reason YOU keep bringing in heterosexuals.

YOU referred to homosexuals as practicing anal and oral sex which, you said, is 'a sin'. "I" responded to this by reminding you (or telling you if you don't already know) that anal and oral sex is (evidently) a common practice of heterosexuals who FAR OUTNUMBER homosexuals. Savvy?

Let me briefly sum up my position on sex for you since you keep wanting to veer away from homosexuality. God intended sex is for one man and one woman in a committed relationship i.e. marriage.

Well, whether God intended this or not He appears to have had no problem accepting polygamy ...that is one man (perhaps) MANY women. God also doesn't seem to have had a problem with a girl marrying her rapist or young girls being taken by men for sex as 'spoils of war'. See, women were seen as property and not really people per se. So, whether you regard this as my 'veering away from homosexuality' or not you need to know that sex and marital relations were not necessarily what you're wanting to paint them.

Any sex outside of this marriage and any sodomy within this marriage is a sin in the sight of God.

Where is the scripture that forbids sodomy within marriage?

That, if you didn't know, is the traditional Christian stance towards sex.

Sex outside of marriage is SO common that it's almost mandatory. I won't ask for a show of hands from Christians on this forum as to how many of them had sexual relations before marriage (insert 'tongue-in-cheek' smiley face).

If you want to start a thread on the sins of heterosexual sex then by all means do so. Homosexuals are not properly equipped to engage in sex therefore they must change the intended biological function of certain parts of their bodies in order to engage in "sex".

Well, I'm still on the heterosexual theme since I'm about to tell you that 'recreational sex' (the sexual act 'for fun and intimacy' that heterosexuals engage in the majority of the time) and not 'PROcreational sex' (the purpose FOR sex as intended by God) would be no different to similar 'fun and intimate' acts as practiced by homosexuals. HOW this is accomplished is immaterial since the results are the same. So, your argument above fails any reality test.

[KCKID]

[Replying to post 106 by KCKID]

Are you asking for quoted Bible texts on sins?

No, please don't ...otherwise you, me and everyone else on the forum would probably be quaking in our shoes as we recognize our own sins. YOU were the one who brought up "God's will." We see 'God's will' demonstrated numerous times in Leviticus, Deuteronomy, etc. and it is mostly stuff that would creep out the average person.

I'm merely asking you to tell me/us what - specifically - IS "God's will" that you would have us be obedient to . . .? 'Jesus' will' rather than 'God's will' might be easier to explain.

[Sir Hamilton]

[Replying to KCKID]

I would acknowledge their feelings but tell them not to act upon the feelings as we should not act on other feelings that may lead to sin. The urge to lie, the urge to commit adultery, the urge to steal are real feelings but if acted upon results in going against God's will.

So you would tell them to disobey Jesus and NOT love?

It is possible to love someone of the same sex and not want to have sex with the south end of their digestive tract....come to think of it the north end as well.

While I'm sure that the love shared between any couple that choose a life-time together - gay or straight - involves much more than sex it COULD be argued that 'normal sex' as allegedly designed by 'the Creator' is, while pleasurable, rather 'yecchh' when one thinks about it. That said, what you say above would be the acts that are practiced with more frequency by the majority group of heterosexuals than by the minority group of homosexuals. If you apply your crude remark to heterosexuals that do the very same thing does that make them 'guilty of sin'? If so, what do you intend to do about it ...impose a ban on heterosexual 'north and south' sex acts? Or, does the ban only exist for homosexuals?

You DO realize that your argument - such as it is - is rather nonsensical, don't you?

If heterosexuals practice anal sex then yes they are sinning. I thought this thread was about homosexuality so that is why I targeted that group.

The thread IS about a gay child confronting his/her parents. YOU, however, specifically targeted homosexuals with a sexual practice that could just as well be aimed at heterosexuals. And THAT is what I responded to.

Are we discussing heterosexuals as well now?

We ARE bringing heterosexuals into the mix when you apply so-called 'sinful' sexual behavior as though SOLELY to homosexuals that heterosexuals commonly practice. Come on, S.H, don't play simple . . .

You asked what am I going to do about it?? Why would I do anything about it? Is it my job to be some kind of sex police?

Well, you might be just as zealous targeting heterosexuals for THEIR 'sinful' sexual behavior as you are with targeting homosexuals. And yes, it would appear that many a Christian appears to be some kind of moral cop. Otherwise they would keep their noses out of what couples - preferentially gay couples, it would seem - might get up to when intimate within the privacy of their own homes.

But, anyway, back to the thread topic.

This thread is about a 'gay child'. For some reason YOU keep bringing in heterosexuals.

YOU referred to homosexuals as practicing anal and oral sex which, you said, is 'a sin'. "I" responded to this by reminding you (or telling you if you don't already know) that anal and oral sex is (evidently) a common practice of heterosexuals who FAR OUTNUMBER homosexuals. Savvy?

Let me briefly sum up my position on sex for you since you keep wanting to veer away from homosexuality. God intended sex is for one man and one woman in a committed relationship i.e. marriage.

Well, whether God intended this or not He appears to have had no problem accepting polygamy ...that is one man (perhaps) MANY women. God also doesn't seem to have had a problem with a girl marrying her rapist or young girls being taken by men for sex as 'spoils of war'. See, women were seen as property and not really people per se. So, whether you regard this as my 'veering away from homosexuality' or not you need to know that sex and marital relations were not necessarily what you're wanting to paint them.

Any sex outside of this marriage and any sodomy within this marriage is a sin in the sight of God.

Where is the scripture that forbids sodomy within marriage?

That, if you didn't know, is the traditional Christian stance towards sex.

Sex outside of marriage is SO common that it's almost mandatory. I won't ask for a show of hands from Christians on this forum as to how many of them had sexual relations before marriage (insert 'tongue-in-cheek' smiley face).

If you want to start a thread on the sins of heterosexual sex then by all means do so. Homosexuals are not properly equipped to engage in sex therefore they must change the intended biological function of certain parts of their bodies in order to engage in "sex".

Well, I'm still on the heterosexual theme since I'm about to tell you that 'recreational sex' (the sexual act 'for fun and intimacy' that heterosexuals engage in the majority of the time) and not 'PROcreational sex' (the purpose FOR sex as intended by God) would be no different to similar 'fun and intimate' acts as practiced by homosexuals. HOW this is accomplished is immaterial since the results are the same. So, your argument above fails any reality test.

"'If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads." NIV Leviticus 20:13