What is a soul?

Skrill · Post by **Skrill** » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:54 pm

It is fact that the Physical Brain controls memories, personality. Thousands of other actions are all controlled by our nervous system, which is managed by our brains.

Therefore, what consensus is there for any evidence for a soul(s)? As the existence of the soul is very central to any belief or religion.

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JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:53 pm

[Replying to post 300 by hoghead1]

So when I said

JehovahsWitness wrote: Could it be that a person dies (ceases to exist) and then (after a period of time of not existing which we will call "being DEAD" rather than being alive in a transformed state) is later recreated (resurrected) in another body whether physical (flesh and blood) or be given another kind of body (spirit body)?

and you replied..

hoghead1 wrote: That's what I have been trying to explain to you. The question is, When does this happen?

Why did you say that? You comment seemed to imply I had just stated something you agreed with and that the only point of contention was when. What part of my statement have you yourself been "trying to explain"?

hoghead1 · Post by **hoghead1** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:01 pm

[Replying to post 298 by Checkpoint]

To what do I grant authority? Whatever leads to a positive lifestyle, a more beautiful world and relationship with God.

What authority do I grant Scripture? For me, personal experience and creativity take precedent over the "holy books" and dogma.

hoghead1 · Post by **hoghead1** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:06 pm

[Replying to post 301 by JehovahsWitness]

I am simply saying that I agree with your statement "Could it be that..." I agree because it squares with my understanding of ourselves as a society of perishing occasions. Moment to moment we die, only to be reborn anew in the next moment.

hoghead1 · Post by **hoghead1** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:08 pm

[Replying to post 296 by Monta]

Well, OK, but I try and avoid as much as possible allegorical interpretations of Scripture. I agree with the Reformers that all they do is make Scripture a nose of wax you can twist any way you want.

Blastcat · Post by **Blastcat** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:25 pm

[Replying to post 293 by Checkpoint]

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hoghead1 wrote:
I beg to differ.

If you are right, we cannot know what scripture aims to inform us of,

That is correct.
We cannot.

What we can do is to CLAIM that we can.. and preach that to others.. who preach something else to others.. and so on.. all preachers preaching to preachers.

And apparently, if we were to believe each and every one of them.. each and every preacher KNOWS what scripture aims to inform us of, even though it may be different than the other guy. Or gal. Or maybe soon in some churches ( if not already ) , some.. transgendered person.

It is my theological opinion that there are many theological opinions. Everyone seems to have a different opinion concerning what Scripture aims to inform us of.

Or do you dispute that there are theological disputes?
I wonder just how many different theological opinions there have been and are in the world?

Millions?
Billions?

None?

hoghead1 wrote:
No, we do not always wear the right glasses.

I try to show people, but they just don't seem to be able to see !!
They SHOULD remove their dark dark glasses and try mine on for size.
They should then SEE THE LIGHT of my theological opinions.

Blastcat be beautiful, baby !!

hoghead1 · Post by **hoghead1** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:42 pm

[Replying to post 305 by Blastcat]

I think someone else made those statements.

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:51 pm

hoghead1 wrote: [Replying to post 301 by JehovahsWitness]

I am simply saying that I agree with your statement "Could it be that..." I agree because it squares with my understanding of ourselves as a society of perishing occasions. Moment to moment we die, only to be reborn anew in the next moment.

What part specifically do you see as agreeing with that? What if I stated the above not as a question but as a statement, would ou still find something in it that you agree with

When a person dies (ceases to exist) and then (after a period of time of not existing which we will call "being DEAD" rather than being alive in a transformed state) is later recreated (resurrected) in another body whether physical (flesh and blood) or be given another kind of body (spirit body)

Is there anything in the above that you were "trying to say"? If so, what specifically?

JW

onewithhim · Post by **onewithhim** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:36 pm

2timothy316 wrote:
hoghead1 wrote: [Replying to post 290 by Checkpoint]

No, we are perplexed simply because we have been given two highly conflicting pictures between Christ and Paul. The fault lies in the biblical texts, not ourselves. The Bible is notorious for being contradictory, and this is one specific occasion, out of many others.
Ah one of these folks. It has been my experience that to argue with a person that believes the above there is nothing fruitful to come from these discussions. They only believe themselves and clearly ignore a very important Bible principle. "Trust in Jehovah with all your heart, And do not rely on your own understanding. In all your ways take notice of him, And he will make your paths straight." - Proverbs 3:5, 6.

Those that say 'fault lies in the biblical texts' doesn't need anything from those that have written Proverbs 3:5, 6 on their hearts.

Yes, "one of these folks"......that's why I put him on "ignore." No use discussing anything. Other peoples' comments are not even considered by him and others like him. And why? Because he doesn't respect the Bible as authoritatively God's inspired Word. What can ya do?

onewithhim · Post by **onewithhim** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:42 pm

JehovahsWitness wrote:
hoghead1 wrote: [Replying to post 287 by JehovahsWitness]

That's what I have been trying to explain to you. The question is, When does this happen?
No, you have been saying the person NEVER DIES:

Post #280 you state: "We live on beyond the grave" - to "live on" means "to not stop living" one continues ones life.

Post #276 you refer to: "for life in the hereafter" - presumably life after having died.

When I said "What I am gleaning is that you do not believe that the individual ever ceases to exist even when dead, I am wrong?" you answered in Post # 281 "Yes, correct. [...] we never cease to exist" - "never" excludes one seconds and on billion years, never means at no point in time even for a fraction of a second does the whole person (the Soul) cease to exist.

Post #284 you state catagorically " when you die, yes, you do live on in Paradise or in Hades"

CONCLUSION: Again and again you have been stating that a "dead" person is actually still alive. Are you now stating that a dead person (regardless of whether he or she is dead for one second or one century) actually ceases all conscious existence and actually isn't alive anywhere? That a dead person doesn't exist for the period of time they are dead?

He is quite obviously never going to answer your very valid questions, point by point, which is what you requested. Keeps giving confused answers in a very general manner. Why bother?

I put him on "ignore," but unfortunately I see his posts in others' posts.

Talishi · Post by **Talishi** » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:43 pm

onewithhim wrote: Yes, "one of these folks"......that's why I put him on "ignore." No use discussing anything. Other peoples' comments are not even considered by him and others like him. And why? Because he doesn't respect the Bible as authoritatively God's inspired Word. What can ya do?

Therefore when thou doest thine blocks, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.