According to JW's, will the 144 000 be only white men?

[Justin108]

Is there a reason Jehovah's Witness art always depict the 144 000 as all white men? Or is it just coincidence?

[onewithhim]

The illustrations if you look carefully are not of those humans that could be identified by the skin colour or sex but of those chosen individuals in place in heaven. Once resurrected to heaven these ones will no longer be human but spirit. Of course spirits are invisible to humans and do not have human bodies. Like angels they will not be subject to physicality nor catagorized by sex.

Then why are they depicted as white, bearded men? You agree that these illustrations are not exactly accurate and merely representative. Why then not represent the various spirits with a variety of sexes and races? Is there a reason JW artists chose to represent the 144 000 as white men?

She just explained all that! Could you please not keep asking the same questions over and over? If you don't understand it, let it go, because JW couldn't have explained it any better.

JW's answer comes down to "these depictions are not accurate. This is not what spirits actually look like". My follow-up question is why, specifically, depict them as white men then? As opposed to black men? Asian women?

For example: if I asked "why do aliens in movies speak English?" someone might answer "that isn't accurate. Aliens would not speak English". I then ask "why English, specifically? Why not Spanish? Or German?" to which that person replies "oh because that way, more people around the world will understand what the aliens in the movie say, and because the creators of the movie was English"

See the underlined part? That's the kind of answer JW gave me. See the part in bold? That's the kind of answer I want. Not just "it isn't accurate", I want to know why they specifically chose a bunch of white men to represent the rulers.

Is the distinction clear enough for you? Or are you going to accuse me of asking the same question again?

Again, JW answered that. If you want to see the answer, go back over JW's posts.

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[onewithhim]

[Replying to post 19 by Justin108]

Your questions don't make any sense, especially since they were answered, and you keep asking them.

JW posted information about the 144,000, specifically, because you asked a question about why they are depicted as white men. JW was not trying to show anybody "what heaven will look like." An excellent explanation was given to you, and no one could do better.

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[Justin108]

As has been explained already.....they symbolize the entire body of 144,000 people from the earth that will rule with Christ in heaven.

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A diverse host of men and women of different races would have symbolized this as well. My question remains unanswered: why did the artist specifically choose white men to represent the 144 000 rulers? Why did he not choose a diverse host of men and women of various races?

[Justin108]

The illustrations if you look carefully are not of those humans that could be identified by the skin colour or sex but of those chosen individuals in place in heaven. Once resurrected to heaven these ones will no longer be human but spirit. Of course spirits are invisible to humans and do not have human bodies. Like angels they will not be subject to physicality nor catagorized by sex.

Then why are they depicted as white, bearded men? You agree that these illustrations are not exactly accurate and merely representative. Why then not represent the various spirits with a variety of sexes and races? Is there a reason JW artists chose to represent the 144 000 as white men?

She just explained all that! Could you please not keep asking the same questions over and over? If you don't understand it, let it go, because JW couldn't have explained it any better.

JW's answer comes down to "these depictions are not accurate. This is not what spirits actually look like". My follow-up question is why, specifically, depict them as white men then? As opposed to black men? Asian women?

For example: if I asked "why do aliens in movies speak English?" someone might answer "that isn't accurate. Aliens would not speak English". I then ask "why English, specifically? Why not Spanish? Or German?" to which that person replies "oh because that way, more people around the world will understand what the aliens in the movie say, and because the creators of the movie was English"

See the underlined part? That's the kind of answer JW gave me. See the part in bold? That's the kind of answer I want. Not just "it isn't accurate", I want to know why they specifically chose a bunch of white men to represent the rulers.

Is the distinction clear enough for you? Or are you going to accuse me of asking the same question again?

Again, JW answered that. If you want to see the answer, go back over JW's posts.

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JW's answer was something to the effect of "to indicate equality". Now go back to my posts to see my response to that explanation.

[Justin108]

[Replying to post 19 by Justin108]

Your questions don't make any sense

My sympathies for your lack of comprehension.

especially since they were answered, and you keep asking them.

The questions I ask after my initial questions are either followup questions, or a repeat of an earlier question that remained unanswered.

JW posted information about the 144,000, specifically, because you asked a question about why they are depicted as white men. JW was not trying to show anybody "what heaven will look like." An excellent explanation was given to you, and no one could do better.

And I then responded to this "excellent explanation" by pointing out the flaws of the given explanation.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to post 25 by Justin108]

You are just an instigator for a yelling match, and I'm not biting. I can't believe people can be so beleaguering for no reason.

Fare thee well.

[otseng]

My sympathies for your lack of comprehension.

You are just an instigator for a yelling match, and I'm not biting. I can't believe people can be so beleaguering for no reason.

Please cease from the uncivil comments about each other.

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[onewithhim]

[Replying to post 27 by otseng]

Oops. Sorry.