You're not answering my questions again! Please answer them: Why would you oppose addressing a high rate of suicide among gays as a threat to the public health? And why do you oppose society taking action to decrease any such high suicide rate among gays?
If you dodge my questions, then we cannot have a productive discussion. OK?
You seem to think it is possible to decrease the suicide rate in the gay community.
I'm hoping that the suicide rate among homosexuals can be decreased, of course. Do you share my hope?
By the way, two of my brothers are gay. Both of them are law-abiding citizens, work full-time jobs, and are reasonably well-adjusted men. They don't seem to fit your image of gay men. Maybe they are exceptional cases, or maybe your image of gay men is distorted by your Christian prejudices.
If the homosexual act is the trigger to destructive behavior then the solution would be to get rid of the trigger.
I assume you mean that gay sex triggers "destructive behavior." I'm not convinced that gay sex can have such an impact. Even if it does, therapy with a valid scientific basis may well help gay men to enjoy gay sex without any such side-effects.
Do you support an effort on the part of scientists to develop such a therapy if homosexuals can benefit from it?
With your so called love or whatever it is you want to call it, simply condemns people to death because you seem to think trying to treating the symptoms is as good as treating that actual problem.
I'm in favor of treating any "root problems" that gays may have and not just the symptoms. I just want the treatment(s) if they are needed at all to be based on valid science and not the pseudoscience being pawned off by the religious right.
In every society the homosexual community has a higher rate of suicide.
If that's true, then let's use legitimate science to find out why and help gays avoid taking their own lives.
The Trevor project was a 1 survey study that asked questions about the last 12 months. Anything a little more scientific. Like a multiyear study that tracked these young people over time. That might give more accurate results.
Scientific American obviously thinks the findings of the Trevor Project are valid. Now why should I believe you over Scientific American?
This argument again does not hold water.
1. Because this suicide rate happens regardless of how accepted homosexuality is.
You can only accept this claim by denying the findings of the Trevor Project.
Suicide rate does in increase in Christian communities when they are persecuted.
One of the problems in your analogy here is that you appear to assume that gays and Christians are distinct groups. The reality is that many gays are Christians, and many Christians are gay. So your comparing the two groups is not a valid comparison. Heck, if Christians don't commit suicide under persecution, it could be that their being gay gives them the strength to carry on!
Suicide rates did not increase among African American slaves when they were persecuted.
No doubt many of them were gay. So again, the comparison is not valid.
Do you agree that both sexually active gays and heterosexuals should use condoms if there is a risk of STDs?
All sexual deviant behavior is risky or deadly, this is why one man and one women for life what the Bible says is appropriate sexuality.
You are not answering my questions! Do you agree that both sexually active gays and heterosexuals should use condoms if there is a risk of STDs?
And you are wrong if you claim that marriage isn't risky. It can lead to divorce! Not to mention domestic violence, rape, and child abuse.
I have given this list before but it does need to be repeated.
What is your source, and why is it trustworthy? A Christian source is probably biased against gays due to its Biblical dogmas that call for the execution of gays.
And if you want gays to avoid what is deadly to them, then to be consistent, you should recommend they avoid the Bible!
I addressed this above abuse is not the reason for the destructive behavior i the homosexual community.
Christians screaming "God hates fags!" may well lead to destructive behavior among gays.
If people look to the Bible hoping it has the key to immortality, then such hope may cause them to deny its very obvious antisocial and destructive injunctions.
Again that is not what the research shows.
I've seen Christians turn a blind eye to the Bible's horrors many times. It's the price we pay for their determination to get to heaven at all costs including the costs that others must pay.
Religious/spiritual beliefs and practices are commonly used by both medical and psychiatric patients to cope with illness and other stressful life changes. A large volume of research shows that people who are more R/S have better mental health and adapt more quickly to health problems compared to those who are less R/S. These possible benefits to mental health and well-being have physiological consequences that impact physical health, affect the risk of disease, and influence response to treatment. In this paper I have reviewed and summarized hundreds of quantitative original data-based research.
What you're claiming here, even if true, has nothing to do with Christians turning a blind eye to the Bible's horrors because they want to get to heaven.
No, I am living in a real world in which there is justice for the victims. Where there are consequences for behaviors. There are always consequences for behaviors even when people refuse to see the obvious for what it is.
Of course there are consequences for behaviors. Let's just make sure we find the real consequences for behavior and not what our religion tells us.
Homosexual is defined as: a person who is sexually attracted to people of their own sex.
Homosexuality is not pedophilia. Most homosexuals are not pedophiles.
In Bible times those 12 and older were considered adults.
Where did you get this claim? In any case, it does demonstrate that our modern notion of "underage sex" didn't hold for the Jews and early Christians. Biblical "morality" is outmoded and has been superseded by secular morality which works much better.
Men are not created to engage in this sort of sin. Men are hardwired with some innate information, like speech. Morality is also hardwired in to man. This is why people who commit homosexual acts are depressed to the point that they want to commit suicide. This is why there is no therapy that has decreased the problem that homosexuals have with suicide.
What you're claiming here is completely unreasonable. If homosexuality is so terrible, then it makes no sense for any man to choose to be gay! Can you choose to be gay? Is it some tempting sin for you? It isn't for me. I'm heterosexual, but I never chose to be. It just happened.
By the way, when I was a teenager I became bisexual for about two years. I was attracted to other boys. It didn't last. I never chose to be attracted to boys then, and I never chose to stop being attracted to them. It just happened naturally.
So you're wrong about homosexuality being a choice.
You can believe all you want that homosexuality is morally right and good.
I wouldn't say homosexuality is good or bad. I just leave people alone if they do no harm and mind my own business.
Christian morality is the only answer to the issues that homosexuals face.
To be consistent, Christians should call for the execution of gays like their Bible demands.
