Paradise on Earth

[onewithhim]

When I learned that the Bible speaks of a restored Garden of Eden and the restoration of mankind to the perfection and endless life that Adam forfeited, I was thrilled. Who doesn't want to keep living on this beautiful earth, with our loved ones, and being able to do all the things we love to do---endlessly?

If God said to you today, "When do you want to die?" would you say "now!!"? I don't think very many people would say that.

We CAN live forever here on Earth. The Bible tells us that we can.

Matthew 5:5
Psalm 37:9-11,29

[Checkpoint]

The question is, what is it that the faithful are looking for as their spiritual inheritance?

You have answered that yourself...

His commission is to people his kingdom with those who will one day inherit a new heaven and a new earth in which there will be no suffering and death, and in which only righteousness dwells.

What was "the new earth" you referred to?


JW

MATTHEW 6:10 ESV

Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.

The "new earth" referred to is the one found in Revelation 21:1.

[JehovahsWitness]

The "new earth" referred to is the one found in Revelation 21:1.

So there you have the answer to the question you asked.

The question is, what is it that the faithful are looking for as their spiritual inheritance?

The "new earth" referred to .... found in Revelation 21:1.

[onewithhim]

Psalm 37: 11 and 29

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Psalm 37 I see as an expanded Psalm 1, of the faithful and the faithless, and their destinies.

The faithful "will inherit the earth", as Jesus reiterated in Matthew 5.

Just two points for you to consider.

1) Both the Hebrew and Greek words here translatwd "earth" can equally well be rendered "land", and often are. In which cases usually meaning "land of Israel".

The question is, what is it that the faithful are looking for as their spiritual inheritance?

2) I think these verses are the answer:

Hebrews 11:

13 All these people died in faith, without having received the things they were promised. However, they saw them and welcomed them from afar. And they acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the earth.

14 Now those who say such things show that they are seeking a country of their own.
15 If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return.

16 Instead, they were longing for a better country, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.

I know some versions render the word for "earth" as "land." However you look at it, people are going to live therein forever. How does this fact affect YOU? What do you personally feel about this promise of life forever on earth?

And yes, people of old did look forward to a better country, one that is ruled from heaven. They obviously didn't think that they would BE in heaven, since the promise was life on the earth forever.


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[Checkpoint]

Psalm 37: 11 and 29

.

Psalm 37 I see as an expanded Psalm 1, of the faithful and the faithless, and their destinies.

The faithful "will inherit the earth", as Jesus reiterated in Matthew 5.

Just two points for you to consider.

1) Both the Hebrew and Greek words here translatwd "earth" can equally well be rendered "land", and often are. In which cases usually meaning "land of Israel".

The question is, what is it that the faithful are looking for as their spiritual inheritance?

2) I think these verses are the answer:

Hebrews 11:

13 All these people died in faith, without having received the things they were promised. However, they saw them and welcomed them from afar. And they acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the earth.

14 Now those who say such things show that they are seeking a country of their own.
15 If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return.

16 Instead, they were longing for a better country, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.

I know some versions render the word for "earth" as "land." However you look at it, people are going to live therein forever. How does this fact affect YOU? What do you personally feel about this promise of life forever on earth?

And yes, people of old did look forward to a better country, one that is ruled from heaven. They obviously didn't think that they would BE in heaven, since the promise was life on the earth forever.

It is not about earth or heaven as places, but whether we will be part of the old order or of the new order, in which all things become new.

The 1000 years is of the old order, which will not pass away until Satan does after the millennium.

[JehovahsWitness]

It is not about earth or heaven as places, but whether we will be part of the old order or of the new order, in which all things become new.

Yes all those judged as being worthy will enjoy being part of the new order in which all things become new. And if it "about earth or heaven as places"* I take it you will refrain from criticizing Jehovah Witnesses who believe many millions will be living on this our planet earth restored to its original paradisaic conditions.


[*] "about earth or heaven as places" I took to mean it is not of paramount importance where the individuals are located

[Checkpoint]

It is not about earth or heaven as places, but whether we will be part of the old order or of the new order, in which all things become new.

Yes all those judged as being worthy will enjoy being part of the new order in which all things become new. And if it "about earth or heaven as places"* I take it you will refrain from criticizing Jehovah Witnesses who believe many millions will be living on this our planet earth restored to its original paradisaic conditions.


[*] "about earth or heaven as places" I took to mean it is not of paramount importance where the individuals are located

Where God places man is of paramount importance; I did not say otherwise.

I will criticize JWs as and when I choose to do so, and will expect them to criticize me as and when they choose to do so.

I too "believe many millions will be living" in the Paradise conditions described as being the new order, as outlined in Revelation 21 and 22.

I also believe, and now reiterate, that...

"The 1000 years is of the old order, which will not pass away until Satan does after the millennium."

[JehovahsWitness]

I too "believe many millions will be living" in the Paradise conditions described as being the new order, as outlined in Revelation 21 and 22.

Excellent! It's always good to find common ground.



It will be wonderful to see human beings all living together in peace regardless of their skin colour. And an earth free of famine, disease and war will be something wonderful to see.



JEHOVAHS WITNESS

[Checkpoint]

Checkpoint wrote:

I too "believe "many millions will be living" in the Paradise conditions described as being the new order, as outlined in Revelation 21 and 22.

JW wrote

Excellent! It's always good to find common ground.

Yes it is.

But in this case that common ground is completely lost.

How sad.

[JehovahsWitness]

There's nothing sad about the end of al suffering on this our planet earth!

I too "believe many millions will be living" in the Paradise conditions described as being the new order, as outlined in Revelation 21 and 22.

Excellent! It's always good to find common ground.



It will be wonderful to see human beings all living together in peace regardless of their skin colour. And an earth free of famine, disease and war will be something wonderful to see.



JEHOVAHS WITNESS

Christians have been praying for Gods will to be done on earth for thousands of years!



JW

[Checkpoint]

Checkpoint wrote:

I too "believe many millions will be living" in the Paradise conditions described as being the new order, as outlined in Revelation 21 and 22.

JW wrote:

Excellent! It's always good to find common ground.

Yes, it is good.

But what then happened?

We quickly lost it.

How very sad.