Does the Bible provide information that is useful and applicable in modern life?
1. What, if any, information or guidance provided by the New Testament is useful and applicable in modern life and modern decisions?
2. What, if any, information or guidance provided by the Old Testament is useful and applicable in modern life and modern decisions?
3. Is any currently useful information provided by NT / OT original or unique to the Bible (not common in other cultures and ideologies)?
Does the Bible provide information that is useful and applicable in modern life?
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Does the Bible provide information that is useful and applicable in modern life?
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Post #21Don't put down the institution just because some participants fail to live up to standards. You know as well as I do that a home with both parents is much better than a single parent home. The fallacy of your point is no different than trying to blame the shortcomings of Christians on Christianity.
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Post #22Are you suggesting that there aren't any people in America or the western world that restrict sexual relations to within marriage?Zzyzx wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:18 amThat idea is very popular in Malaysia, Indonesia, Jordan, Pakistan, and EgyptJehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:16 am those that don't are protected from falling pregnant outside of wedlock.
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Post #23That really depends on the amount of love that is expressed in the home. Many environments with both parents present can be somewhat toxic. Drug and alcohol abuse, violence, sexual abuse, and any number of other issues can render such an environment detrimental to the welfare of children. It is an oversimplification to conclude that single parent homes are not as good as those with both parents present.AgnosticBoy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:57 am You know as well as I do that a home with both parents is much better than a single parent home.
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Post #24If I say that sushi is popular in Japan does that mean to you that I have said it is not popular in the US?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:30 amAre you suggesting that there aren't any people in America or the western world that restrict sexual relations to within marriage?Zzyzx wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:18 amThat idea is very popular in Malaysia, Indonesia, Jordan, Pakistan, and EgyptJehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:16 am those that don't are protected from falling pregnant outside of wedlock.
Why are so many fanatical about the sexual relations of OTHER people?
Aren't lust, envy, and gossip supposedly discouraged in Christendom?
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Post #25Exactly! So my point is those (in whatever country, including America and other western countries) that choose to apply bible standards and restrict sex to within marriage are protected from falling pregnant outside of marriage. The bible standard then has the obvious benefit of protecting against unwanted pregnancies.
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Post #26Of course 'the bible standard' (abstinence) prevents pregnancy.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:47 am The bible standard then has the obvious benefit of protecting against unwanted pregnancies.
So does castration.
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Post #27Are you suggesting that both abstinence and castration are comparable in terms of short and long term negative effects? If yes, can you present supporting evidence. If no, is your point anything other than to state the obvious?Zzyzx wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:59 amOf course 'the bible standard' (abstinence) prevents pregnancy.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:47 am The bible standard then has the obvious benefit of protecting against unwanted pregnancies.
So does castration.
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Post #28I really have to applaud you for your strong moral reasoning. Zzyzx responses sound more like excuses to take away from the FACT that restricting sex/reproduction to marriage is a very good standard.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:47 amExactly! So my point is those (in whatever country, including America and other western countries) that choose to apply bible standards and restrict sex to within marriage are protected from falling pregnant outside of marriage. The bible standard then has the obvious benefit of protecting against unwanted pregnancies.
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Zzyzx knocks marriage while not criticizing those who are having multiple kids outside of a committed relationship.
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Do you really not know the toll of having kids who don't have their fathers around?
Do you really not know how much financial resources are spent on these types of families? Consider that all of this is easily avoidable when all these women have to do is keep their legs closed or use protection at least. Given that this is easily avoidable, it is absolutely irresponsible for men and women to have kids outside of a committed relationship.
Take off the anti Bible cap for a moment. Do you acknowledge that restricting reproduction to marriage is a good standard??
Do you agree that it's better and easier for two people to raise a kid(s) than it is for one person?
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Post #29Surely the last conception that only required the woman to be involved occurred over two thousand years ago.AgnosticBoy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:29 am Consider that all of this is easily avoidable when all these women have to do is keep their legs closed or use protection at least.
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Post #30Of course. But what good has presenting information done before?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:56 amDo you have any evidence to support this point ?Willum wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:49 pm [Replying to bjs1 in post #6]
...the Golden Rule preexisted Jesus, and was reinvented in Greek, if it wasn’t actually stolen from Egypt by them
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule
And how can you possible ignore the more important fallacy of the Golden Rule, that it is a deceptive call to moral relativism?
It allows "you" to be the arbiter of good and bad.
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
Evil people apply that rule as consistently as good, with the same integrity, and excuses.
It literally does nothing to effect behaviour.
That is the wisdom of your god.
Or more likely, it is the wisdom of a deceptive being claiming your god's authority.
Or more likely, it is the wisdom of men using a fictional deity as an authority.