How did Jesus become God?

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How did Jesus become God?

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Bart Ehrman has an excellent book entitled "How Jesus became God".

Without turning this into a book debate per se, let's turn the title into a question for debate.

How did Jesus become God? What do you think? What is your understanding of the process, or was Jesus always God? Evidence?

I realize there are a few assumptions in the debate question, but for argument's sake, let's go with it.
My theological positions:

-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.

I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.

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Re: How did Jesus become God?

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theQuestion wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:42 pmWhen did Jesus' appointment happen? After his resurrection.
There's more to the Bible than just the Pauline epistles.

In Mark, Jesus became God's adopted son at the baptism by pronouncement of God ("you are my son!") and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit ("the Spirit descended into him like a dove").

In Matthew and Luke, Jesus is God's literal son, gaining divinity at his conception in his mother's womb.

In John, Jesus is the pre-existent hypostasis of God's creative power, apparently modelled after Philo's notion of the Logos. As far as I'm concerned, Philo is nearly incomprehensible and hopelessly contradictory on this point, but John seems to have accepted Philo's doctrines of Logos and Logoi to mean that Jesus is God and inseparable from God, but also not all of God. made flesh as the Son of God. John's Jesus has been God since "the beginning."

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Re: How did Jesus become God?

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Difflugia wrote: Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:30 pm There's more to the Bible than just the Pauline epistles.
In Mark, Jesus became God's adopted son at the baptism by pronouncement of God ("you are my son!") and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit ("the Spirit descended into him like a dove").
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Re: How did Jesus become God?

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I can say for sure Jesus never declared himself as God nor everyone else saw him in his life.
in
john 5:30
I can do nothing on my own. I judge as God tells me. Therefore, my judgment is just, because I carry out the will of the one who sent me, not my own will.
He declared him self as a messenger

going to the story of the woman she said in
John 4:19
“Sir,” the woman said, “you must be a prophet.
She didn't say you are God

Also Jesus said
John 8:40
"But as it is, you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth, which I heard from God; this Abraham did not do."
Also Jesus said
John 17:3
And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
and going to Corinthians
1 Corinthians 8:6
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Looking at the text that every orthodox use " Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” "IAM" in Greek "ἐγὼ εἰμί Ego imi" the word was used by Gabriel
Luke 1:19
And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel
and also said by the blind man so you can have more than one God applying this to Jesus

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