Bart Ehrman has an excellent book entitled "How Jesus became God".
Without turning this into a book debate per se, let's turn the title into a question for debate.
How did Jesus become God? What do you think? What is your understanding of the process, or was Jesus always God? Evidence?
I realize there are a few assumptions in the debate question, but for argument's sake, let's go with it.
How did Jesus become God?
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How did Jesus become God?
Post #1 My theological positions:
-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
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Re: How did Jesus become God?
Post #41There's more to the Bible than just the Pauline epistles.theQuestion wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:42 pmWhen did Jesus' appointment happen? After his resurrection.
In Mark, Jesus became God's adopted son at the baptism by pronouncement of God ("you are my son!") and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit ("the Spirit descended into him like a dove").
In Matthew and Luke, Jesus is God's literal son, gaining divinity at his conception in his mother's womb.
In John, Jesus is the pre-existent hypostasis of God's creative power, apparently modelled after Philo's notion of the Logos. As far as I'm concerned, Philo is nearly incomprehensible and hopelessly contradictory on this point, but John seems to have accepted Philo's doctrines of Logos and Logoi to mean that Jesus is God and inseparable from God, but also not all of God. made flesh as the Son of God. John's Jesus has been God since "the beginning."
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Re: How did Jesus become God?
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After he was resurrected, appearing to his disciples~
Matt 28:18- And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me."
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Re: How did Jesus become God?
Post #43I can say for sure Jesus never declared himself as God nor everyone else saw him in his life.
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going to the story of the woman she said in
Also Jesus said
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He declared him self as a messengerjohn 5:30
I can do nothing on my own. I judge as God tells me. Therefore, my judgment is just, because I carry out the will of the one who sent me, not my own will.
going to the story of the woman she said in
She didn't say you are GodJohn 4:19
“Sir,” the woman said, “you must be a prophet.
Also Jesus said
Also Jesus saidJohn 8:40
"But as it is, you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth, which I heard from God; this Abraham did not do."
and going to CorinthiansJohn 17:3
And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
Looking at the text that every orthodox use " Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” "IAM" in Greek "ἐγὼ εἰμί Ego imi" the word was used by Gabriel1 Corinthians 8:6
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
and also said by the blind man so you can have more than one God applying this to JesusLuke 1:19
And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel