Faith Heaing?

[POI]

This thread is a spin-off for the already created topic "Prayer"....

The Bible instructs that God grants prayer requests - i.e. (Matthew 7:7), (Matthew 21:22), (Mark 11:24), (John 14:13-14), and (John 16:23); to name a few....

Let's assume the provided faith healer is genuine, and is a true believer. Many faith healers travel from place to place, and apparently offer cures for many, or at least claim to...

Why won't the faith healers ever seem to bother trying to pray for the regrowth of an amputated limb, or pray for the removal of someone's cerebral palsy, or pray for someone's child to no longer have downs syndrome? Or do they? And when they do, do they already know God will not answer the call, as instructed in the Bible?

Or is it because:

A. The faith healer knows God does not cure these particular conditions, and hence, the faith healer does not bother praying for the removal of them? Which begs the follow up question; why does the faith healer know this?
B. The faith healer does pray for the reversal of these conditions, and when these conditions always perpetually continue, the faith healer states "God has not answered (yet)"; even though the unfortunate recipients of these conditions will die with these conditions?
C. Faith healers know, deep down, they are a fraud, and are doing this for other reasons?
D. Other?

In line with Scripture, it seems to me quite odd that God is claimed to answer prayer, time and time again, but always skips over amputees, cerebral palsy, and downs syndrome.?.?.?.?

[JehovahsWitness]

... it seems to me quite odd that God is claimed to answer prayer, time and time again, but always skips over amputees, cerebral palsy, and downs syndrome.?.?.?.?[/color]

Scripturally Jesus demonstrated God's willingness and desire to heal all sorts of infirmities including restore limbs, heal brain diseases and even raise the dead. The bible indicates however that our modern era is not Gods time for such spectacular miracles so godly prayers would reflect a willingness to accept this.



JW


FURTHER READING : Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Practice Faith Healing?
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[nobspeople]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #32]

The bible indicates however that our modern era is not Gods time for such spectacular miracles so godly prayers would reflect a willingness to accept this.

Care to point to where this is? And why, sometimes, in the modern era, God decides to skip this 'rule' and heal?

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #32]

... why, sometimes, in the modern era, God decides to skip this 'rule' and heal?

I don't believe he does. Do you have scentifically verifiable peer reviewed proof that he does?



JW

[brunumb]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #32]

... why, sometimes, in the modern era, God decides to skip this 'rule' and heal?

I don't believe he does. Do you have scentifically verifiable peer reviewed proof that he does?

What you believe is irrelevant. The default position is that God does no healing until there is demonstrable evidence that he does. What such evidence do you have that God has regrown amputated limbs or cured Down Syndrome or Harlequin Ichthyosis? Until there is such evidence, God curing them is only an unwarranted belief and certainly not a fact.

[Tcg]

The bible indicates however that our modern era is not Gods time for such spectacular miracles so godly prayers would reflect a willingness to accept this.

JW

The supposed words of Jesus don't support this claim:

John 14:13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

It is only when it is realized that prayers do not in fact work this way that claims, unsupported of course, must be presented in an attempt to salvage the belief that prayers function as God claimed they would. His supposed son supposedly claimed otherwise.


Tcg

[nobspeople]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #32]

... why, sometimes, in the modern era, God decides to skip this 'rule' and heal?

I don't believe he does. Do you have scentifically verifiable peer reviewed proof that he does?



JW

So you're saying those that 'heal' are liars then?

[POI]

... it seems to me quite odd that God is claimed to answer prayer, time and time again, but always skips over amputees, cerebral palsy, and downs syndrome.?.?.?.?[/color]

Scripturally Jesus demonstrated God's willingness and desire to heal all sorts of infirmities including restore limbs, heal brain diseases and even raise the dead. The bible indicates however that our modern era is not Gods time for such spectacular miracles so godly prayers would reflect a willingness to accept this.

To my understanding, God still intervenes in prayers, for healing, today? Are Christians completely mistaken here? Many also claim God has answered their prayers in the cure for cancer, arthritis, etc. The Bible also states Matthew 7:7, Matthew 21:22, Mark 11:24, John 14:13-14, John 16:23, etc. Are such Scriptures no longer applicable to this modern era? If so, please demonstrate why?

Please explain further.

[JehovahsWitness]

... it seems to me quite odd that God is claimed to answer prayer, time and time again, but always skips over amputees, cerebral palsy, and downs syndrome.?.?.?.?[/color]

Scripturally Jesus demonstrated God's willingness and desire to heal all sorts of infirmities including restore limbs, heal brain diseases and even raise the dead. The bible indicates however that our modern era is not Gods time for such spectacular miracles so godly prayers would reflect a willingness to accept this.

To my understanding, God still intervenes in prayers, for healing, today?

I see no evidence that'is the case. Do you?

Are Christians completely mistaken here?

Yes I believenthey are? Don't you?

Many also claim God has answered their prayers in the cure for cancer, arthritis, etc. The Bible also states Matthew 7:7, Matthew 21:22, Mark 11:24, John 14:13-14, John 16:23, etc. Are such Scriptures no longer applicable to this modern era?

I'm sure they do.

The Bible also states Matthew 7:7, Matthew 21:22, Mark 11:24, John 14:13-14, John 16:23, etc. Are such Scriptures no longer applicable to this modern era?

They do apply, but none of them guarantee miraculous "faith healings".

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[nobspeople]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #39]

They do apply, but none of them guarantee miraculous "faith healings".

Been following this thread. Did I miss where someone said 'guarantee' faith healings?

[POI]

The Bible also states Matthew 7:7, Matthew 21:22, Mark 11:24, John 14:13-14, John 16:23, etc. Are such Scriptures no longer applicable to this modern era?

They do apply, but none of them guarantee miraculous "faith healings".

But the Bible kind of does "guarantee miraculous "faith healings":

- Matthew 21:22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall bask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.
- Mark 11:24 Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.
- John 14:13-14 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

1. Your only defense here, seems to be that all "faith healers" are not true believers. Is this your position? If not, what might it be?

Even if the faith healer was not genuine, the one being prayed for might be. And hence, the prayer request can still be applied by God.

You stated "The bible indicates however that our modern era is not Gods time for such spectacular miracles so godly prayers would reflect a willingness to accept this."

2. Can you please cite Chapter and Verse, as to why you believe "our modern era is not Gods time for such spectacular miracles"?