Willum wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:23 pmWell, that is another interpretation. However, why would he start over with 8 corrupted people, instead of zero and start completely over?
I would assume because there weren't 8 completely sinless people. I don't know if Noah was a drunk or not, but in my experience people don't drink themselves stupid unless there's a chemical reason for it. Maybe he resisted temptation every single other time, but there had to be that temptation. Some people feel a need to drink. Some don't. Being completely drunk is unpleasant. Anyone who voluntarily puts themself into that state, even once, is imo, an alcoholic in that they have the tendency, even if they never act on it again.
Willum wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:23 pmYou bring up a good point, but still makes Yahweh an idiot, and also isn’t a better explanation than Noah killed the family Yahweh intended to people the Ark and world.
You're committing the Vulcan fallacy, calling someone illogical, or an idiot, or what have you, when the problem isn't their logic at all; it's their valuations. The person in question is acting in accordance with reason to achieve their actual goal, which of course you can still question, but it's not a matter of someone being dumb or acting in a way that harms their goals. For whatever reason, God simply values free will that highly. It doesn't matter to him if the lot of us gouge each other's eyes out and do nothing else so long as that's what we really want and choose. I admit, I don't get it, but if letting people choose is really that valuable, there's no idiocy here, there's just valuations I happen to disagree with.
Personally I'd rather be a moral robot. Take out my free will. I don't want it. But that's just me.
I don't think it is a terribly better explanation within the Christian canon simply because I don't think the real family was 100% sinless anyway, making this murder hypothesis nothing but a vestigial ad hoc. It doesn't change the game.
