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Ah, yes. Special pleading. How unique.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:56 pmI cannot explain the origins of God since I do not believe God has any origins.
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Can you prove your claim of special pleading?

What is "argumentum ad populum"?
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What is Ad hominem?
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What is circular reasoning [begging the question]?
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What is the fallacy of equivocation [first & last] ?
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What is the fallacy of special pleading ?
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What is the fallacy of the consequent?
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What is the fallacy of "false equivalence"?
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What is the fallacy of composition [true christian]?
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We don't need to because you have.
JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:07 amI have to question the intellectual capacity of someone that believes something can come from nothing
Q.E.DJehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:56 pmI cannot explain the origins of God since I do not believe God has any origins.
The above does not equates to special pleading. Perhaps you can explain why you believe it is.Difflugia wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:48 amWe don't need to because you have.
JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:07 amI have to question the intellectual capacity of someone that believes something can come from nothingQ.E.DJehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:56 pmI cannot explain the origins of God since I do not believe God has any origins.
So now you're questioning the assertion that dogmatism is a real phenomenon?Tcg wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:19 pmAnd as I see it, you've failed to illustrate how dogmatism has anything to do with either theism or atheism. Perhaps if you get around to, we can discuss you comment further.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:19 am
And as I see it, you've failed to illustrate how dogmatism is any less dangerous in the hands of atheists than it is in the hands of theists.

The argument for special pleading is that ( I presume) you have asked the old (irrelevant) question of Cosmic origins. The response to an admission that we (atheists) have no explanation is that God must be the answer.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:52 amThe above does not equates to special pleading. Perhaps you can explain why you believe it is.Difflugia wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:48 amWe don't need to because you have.
JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:07 amI have to question the intellectual capacity of someone that believes something can come from nothingQ.E.DJehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:56 pmI cannot explain the origins of God since I do not believe God has any origins.
Nope. Just waiting for you to support that it has anything to do with either atheism or theism. I explained this clearly previously. Not sure why I have to explain it again.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 8:30 amSo now you're questioning the assertion that dogmatism is a real phenomenon?Tcg wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:19 pmAnd as I see it, you've failed to illustrate how dogmatism has anything to do with either theism or atheism. Perhaps if you get around to, we can discuss you comment further.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:19 am
And as I see it, you've failed to illustrate how dogmatism is any less dangerous in the hands of atheists than it is in the hands of theists.
.......Tcg wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:50 amNope. Just waiting for you to support that it has anything to do with either atheism or theism. I explained this clearly previously. Not sure why I have to explain it again.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 8:30 amSo now you're questioning the assertion that dogmatism is a real phenomenon?Tcg wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:19 pmAnd as I see it, you've failed to illustrate how dogmatism has anything to do with either theism or atheism. Perhaps if you get around to, we can discuss you comment further.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:19 am
And as I see it, you've failed to illustrate how dogmatism is any less dangerous in the hands of atheists than it is in the hands of theists.
....and I responded......What's the difference between a dogmatic belief and a core tenet?
You never did answer your own question, and you're harping on an answer you want from me?What's the "core tenet" of atheism? Answer my question and you've answered your own.

Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:28 pm.......Tcg wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:50 amNope. Just waiting for you to support that it has anything to do with either atheism or theism. I explained this clearly previously. Not sure why I have to explain it again.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 8:30 amSo now you're questioning the assertion that dogmatism is a real phenomenon?Tcg wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:19 pmAnd as I see it, you've failed to illustrate how dogmatism has anything to do with either theism or atheism. Perhaps if you get around to, we can discuss you comment further.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:19 am
And as I see it, you've failed to illustrate how dogmatism is any less dangerous in the hands of atheists than it is in the hands of theists.
Over in a thread on Deism, you recently asked me....
....and I responded......What's the difference between a dogmatic belief and a core tenet?
You never did answer your own question, and you're harping on an answer you want from me?What's the "core tenet" of atheism? Answer my question and you've answered your own.
Okay, since you've jumped in to answer the "core tenet" question, maybe you'll answer the other unanswered question: Since atheism's core tenet of nonbelief in any gods didn't save the Soviet Union from the dogmatic authoritarianism which plagued it, how can atheists be trusted any further with power than theists can?TRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 3:03 pmAthetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:28 pm.......Tcg wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:50 amNope. Just waiting for you to support that it has anything to do with either atheism or theism. I explained this clearly previously. Not sure why I have to explain it again.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 27, 2022 8:30 amSo now you're questioning the assertion that dogmatism is a real phenomenon?Tcg wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:19 pmAnd as I see it, you've failed to illustrate how dogmatism has anything to do with either theism or atheism. Perhaps if you get around to, we can discuss you comment further.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:19 am
And as I see it, you've failed to illustrate how dogmatism is any less dangerous in the hands of atheists than it is in the hands of theists.
Over in a thread on Deism, you recently asked me....
....and I responded......What's the difference between a dogmatic belief and a core tenet?
You never did answer your own question, and you're harping on an answer you want from me?What's the "core tenet" of atheism? Answer my question and you've answered your own.
It looks like you are not Getting It. 'core Tenet' (give quotes fair weight) of atheism is non -belief in any gods. The 'Core Tenet or dogmatic belief would thus be belief in a gad. So to repeat the question, what's the difference between a dogmatic belief and a core tenet? It seems that by comparing it to the 'core tenet' of atheism, you have restricted your wiggle -room.