Can anyone give good reason to believe Yahweh is not a demon?

[Willum]

Can anyone give good reason to believe Yahweh is not a demon?


Demand animal sacrifices.
Demand the Hebrew commit genocide for a cultural misunderstanding.
A demon would murder planets because he was having a tantrum.
When the Hebrew's generations were weakened by following it, had them undergo genocides themselves.
A demon would allow Adam and Eve to be corrupted, for reasons opaque. (Perfect beings not intending to sin, sinning.)
A demon would be defeated by a greater power (Satan) yet claim victory.
A demon would turn people to salt for looking back.
A demon would claim to love you, while sending most folks to Hell.
A demon would write a book saying he was good, omnipotent and full of all sorts of propaganda.
A demon would re-name itself "God," to capitalize on the conflation with the benevolence of deities.

...and so on.

Can anyone provide good reason to not suspect Yahweh is a demon?

[Wootah]

[Replying to Wootah in post #35]

I think what I am getting at is that a very good person is a demon for a very bad person.

That is what someone, poisoned by demon worship, would say - being unable to distinguish good from evil, since their evil deity sets their standards for good.

Obviously, it is the one initiating harm for their own benefit.

That is what someone, poisoned by demon worship, would say - being unable to distinguish good from evil, since their evil deity sets their standards for good.

Obviously, it is the one initiating harm for their own benefit.

That is what someone, poisoned by demon worship, would say - being unable to distinguish good from evil, since their evil deity sets their standards for good.

Obviously, it is the one initiating harm for their own benefit.

This is fun, it's like being a parrot.

I think we all get the point though.

[TRANSPONDER]

[Replying to Wootah in post #35]

I think what I am getting at is that a very good person is a demon for a very bad person.

That is what someone, poisoned by demon worship, would say - being unable to distinguish good from evil, since their evil deity sets their standards for good.

Obviously, it is the one initiating harm for their own benefit.

That is what someone, poisoned by demon worship, would say - being unable to distinguish good from evil, since their evil deity sets their standards for good.

Obviously, it is the one initiating harm for their own benefit.

That is what someone, poisoned by demon worship, would say - being unable to distinguish good from evil, since their evil deity sets their standards for good.

Obviously, it is the one initiating harm for their own benefit.

This is fun, it's like being a parrot.

I think we all get the point though.

We do, and what it comes down to us, I suppose not taking the claim of who is God and who is evil, but going with the results, is the way to go. And frankly, YHWH looks as bad as any master of demons could be. And this is not the first time people have thought so, as per the gospel of Judas. Though again Job (at least) makes one wonder whether Satan is actually God's public face and operative. It's long been realised that it takes more than a public misinformation channel saying that a vile and murderous dictator is Good, Merciful and kind and we owe everything to him, to make a bad creature good when it it clear from his actions that Good is absolutely not what he is.

[Willum]

[Replying to Wootah in post #35]

I think what I am getting at is that a very good person is a demon for a very bad person.

That is what someone, poisoned by demon worship, would say - being unable to distinguish good from evil, since their evil deity sets their standards for good.

Obviously, it is the one initiating harm for their own benefit.

That is what someone, poisoned by demon worship, would say - being unable to distinguish good from evil, since their evil deity sets their standards for good.

Obviously, it is the one initiating harm for their own benefit.

Really?!
Is this supposed to be a debate worthy reply?
A "I know you are but what am I?"

It reflects an inability to see a broken symmetry and, as one critic of theism stated, "If you dont know right from wrong without your god, you lack empathy"

[William]

TRANSPONDER: I suppose not taking the claim of who is God and who is evil, but going with the results, is the way to go. And frankly, YHWH looks as bad as any master of demons could be. And this is not the first time people have thought so, as per the gospel of Judas. Though again Job (at least) makes one wonder whether Satan is actually God's public face and operative. It's long been realised that it takes more than a public misinformation channel saying that a vile and murderous dictator is Good, Merciful and kind and we owe everything to him, to make a bad creature good when it it clear from his actions that Good is absolutely not what he is.
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Heuristic

The Mother Earth Entity is like a God in the making - learning from the inception point of complete ignorance - in ethical terms, 'not always good - not always evil'... or 'sometimes appearing Demonic and other times appearing Angelic'...

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[Wootah]

[Replying to Willum in post #43]

You are posting subjective nonsense. However, ironically, I do agree that God appears like a demon to you.

2 Corinthians 2:15-17
English Standard Version
15 For we are the aroma of Christ to God among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing, 16 to one a fragrance from death to death, to the other a fragrance from life to life. Who is sufficient for these things? 17 For we are not, like so many, peddlers of God's word, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ.

The Bible says for me to expect as much. I posted examples of how things can look differently, like my Die Hard example.

Copying your post was just part of that emphasis.

God wants you to eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ. That does sound demonic to me as well. But over time I realised we all have a choice, to eat that flesh and blood of Christ or to eat the flesh and blood of each other. There is no opting out of that system while existing in the system. Now, which path is really more demonic? To me that is obvious.

But I don't experience you guys taking the topics you post as seriously as I do.

[JoeyKnothead]

You are posting subjective nonsense. However, ironically, I do agree that God appears like a demon to you.

Says the guy fixing to present...

2 Corinthians 2:15-17
English Standard Version
15 For we are the aroma of Christ to God among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing,

Notice here the threat, and NOT ONE BIT OF CONFIRMATORY EVIDENCE IT'S TRUE.

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17 For we are not, like so many, peddlers of God's word, but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ.

And here our claimant offers no means by which we may confirm the god he can't show exists even has eyes.

The Bible says for me to expect as much.

I'm shamed to know you fetch about stoning gay folks.

I posted examples of how things can look differently, like my Die Hard example.

When all you have to support a work of fiction is another work of fiction, well how bout that.

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God wants you to eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ.

Where has our claimant established this God has a mind, and our claimant can tell what that mind thinks?

...
But I don't experience you guys taking the topics you post as seriously as I do.

It's kinda hard to take these topics seriously, when we get posts like your accusing others of posting "nonsense", all the while presenting claims we know danged well ya can't put ya no truth to.

"Nonsense!"

"But I know what God's thinking!"

It'd be funny if it weren't for the damage religion brings.

[Wootah]

[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #46]

JoeyKnothead you are running over another person's thread. I think we can presume that the OP wants to debate the Bible and Yahweh and ask if God is a demon.

I don't see you quoting that first post and challenging them in the same way, "hey YHWH is fake, demons are fake, what are you doing...stone the gays'.

But I do see you do that when things aren't going your way in this thread.

You may also not realise that Christians are the most persecuted people on Earth. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48146305

[JoeyKnothead]

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[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #46]
JoeyKnothead you are running over another person's thread. I think we can presume that the OP wants to debate the Bible and Yahweh and ask if God is a demon.

I'll post in a manner of my choosing, thank you very much.

I don't see you quoting that first post and challenging them in the same way,

And I don't see you presenting anything but tears at my challenging your claims.

"hey YHWH is fake, demons are fake, what are you doing...stone the gays'.

You said you believed the bible about a thing, and I asked if you also fetch about stoning the gays.

Oddly enough you haven't denied stoning the gays, and here merely complain about my having asked if ya do.

But I do see you do that when things aren't going your way in this thread.

Says the guy who can only complain about my pointing out the dooficity you've presented.

You may also not realise that Christians are the most persecuted people on Earth. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48146305

Maybe if Christians hadn't rounded up the jews by the millions and stuffed em in ovens, well, ya know.

I note you've done NOTHING to show your previous claims're truth,

Cept to bring out the "Your challenging my claims is persecuting me" card.

Your arguments're pitiful, your logic disgraceful, and your "persecution" hallucinatory.

[Wootah]

[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #48]

Maybe if Christians hadn't rounded up the jews by the millions and stuffed em in ovens, well, ya know.

You know that is nonsense if you believe that. Anyway, clearly for you YHWH is a demon and so are His followers.

[brunumb]

You may also not realise that Christians are the most persecuted people on Earth. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48146305

Read the article carefully. The irony is that it essentially involves religious groups persecuting other religious groups.