WOW! I am certainly glad you got that off your chest.
And so is Bill, and Hilary Clinton, Biden, Nancy Pelosi, etc. etc. If you think otherwise, you are simply demonstrating exactly what you have said yourself, which is there are those who are so in love with what they would rather believe, they no longer care about the truth. At this point, you are only left with whomever you believe to be the worst liar, and I am not really seeing how that would matter much.Trump is a profound and inveterate liar.
One of the things I really hate, (and I have spoken out about this to these very folks) is to hear Christians talk about how it would be impossible for one to be a Christian, and vote for this, or that candidate. I have no impressions that God has a particular candidate, or political party in mind, and if I fail to vote for that particular candidate, or party, then I am somehow out of His will. Therefore, when, and if a Christian tells me they voted for Hilary, or Biden, I am not thinking these folks must be evil. Rather, I simply come to the conclusion they have political opinions, which I do not share. With that being the case, I certainly do not look at those outside the Church and assume if they do not share my political opinion then they must, and have to be driven by all sorts of evil.
However, here you are not even a Christian, telling me that it is impossible to be a Christian, and vote for a particular candidate. Moreover, you certainly seem to be on the verge of classifying me as being evil. You see, this is the exact problem I am talking about, and why I am becoming ever more convinced we are doomed for a complete collapse. I am not at all hating on you, or anyone else because of the political choices they make. But, if I happen to disagree with you politically then there is all this hate, and what we end up with is, both sides simply attempting to cancel the other out. I mean let's look at what you have to say,
It certainly seems to me you have a lot of hate built up for this man, and you are passing that hate on to me as well, I am not hating on you because of who you vote for. So then, is it possible that "no amount of argument, no amount of facts", could ever penetrate the amount of hate you have?If one cannot see that, no argument, no amount of facts will change the mind.
But listen. I am not concerned about who you vote for, and I am really not interested in having a political debate. But the thing is, I believe we have just demonstrated why we are more than likely doomed. We are doomed, because no one is listening to each other attempting to really understand another point of view. Rather, like you, and many Christians I know, who already have the other side figured out, and the other side is not simply in error, but are rather, haters of the truth, Nazis, hates immigrants, Christian nationalists, white supremist, or what other label one decides to pin on the other in an attempt to cancel them out.
What folks need to understand is this Christian nationalist business has been in the work for decades. They now believe their time has come, believe they are prepared, and they mean business, and they are doing a really good job. As an example, folks like Marjorie Taylor Greene, is not really a Christian nationalist in my opinion. I really do not think she even knows what all that would entail. She is simply a Christian who loves her country, and thinks this is all there is to Christian nationalism. The thing is though there are many folks like her, and the Christian nationalists are dragging them in, and before they realize what is actually going on, it will be too late.
In the meantime, the Christian nationalist are full steam ahead, and they fully know that the Christians who are oppose to Christian nationalism, will never be able to go it alone, and also will not be able to unite with those who are not Christians, as you are clearly demonstrating. I mean, look at it right here. We have 3 of us, and we cannot unite in order to agree upon something that is a threat. I am a Christian who would love to unite, leaving religion, and politics aside, and we have JW who cannot set JW aside in order to stand up to the threat, and it seems as if you and I cannot unite, because you cannot get over who I voted for in the last election. It is not that I cannot get over who you voted for in the last election. What I cannot get over is the idea that you seem to be under the impression the other choice we had was somehow a moral choice. If this wasn't so sad it would be hilarious. I am a Christian who is not claiming to have made the moral choice, and all those who voted the other way made an immoral choice, but this is exactly what you are saying, as if you are the authority on morality. I mean, GOOD GREIF! You cannot make this stuff up.
Well, I am telling you the Christian nationalist are loving every minute of it, because they hold to the belief that there is going to be a complete collapse, and it will be Christians who will reconstruct our society, hence the term, "Christian reconstruction". My friend, you may not be united with the Christian nationalist, but you are certainly helping their cause.
I don't fear public speaking either, having earned my living at it for 40 years. I'm afraid of sharks and spiders ... and stupid people.. 
