Is Jesus mediator only for the “anointed class” of JW’s?

[MissKate13]

If true, then WHO mediates for the rest of the Jehovah’s Witnesses?

[tam]

Peace to you,

Will there be Christians who will live forever on the Earth? Yes or no.

Living and reigning upon the earth.

Remember, the New Jerusalem (the Bride), comes down out of heaven from God.

The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. Rev 3:12


I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. Rev 21:2



Not her 'influence' only. She, herself.


Peace again to you.

I don't see a yes or no here.

So I'll try again.

Will there be Christians who will live forever on the Earth? Yes or no.

I'm sorry, did you not just finish complaining that I do not provide scriptural support?

Yes, Christians will be living AND REIGNING upon the earth. Scriptural support already provided.


Peace again to you.

[2timothy316]

Peace to you,

Will there be Christians who will live forever on the Earth? Yes or no.

Living and reigning upon the earth.

Remember, the New Jerusalem (the Bride), comes down out of heaven from God.

The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. Rev 3:12


I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. Rev 21:2



Not her 'influence' only. She, herself.


Peace again to you.

I don't see a yes or no here.

So I'll try again.

Will there be Christians who will live forever on the Earth? Yes or no.

I'm sorry, did you not just finish complaining that I do not provide scriptural support?

Yes, Christians will be living AND REIGNING upon the earth. Scriptural support already provided.


Peace again to you.

Living forever right?

[tam]

Peace to you,

Peace again to you,

Peace to you,

Peace to you,

[Replying to tam in post #96]

If you don't like the fact there will be Christian going to heaven to be rulers over other Christians

It has nothing to do with 'like' or 'dislike'; it has to do with the fact that your claim is untrue.

I hate to burst your bubble.

I don't think my bubble is the one to be burst here...

Isaiah 32:1, 2 is clearly part of a Messianic prophecy and describes the benefits rendered by such “princes” under the Kingdom rule.

See, a king will reign in righteousness
and rulers will rule with justice.


Isaiah speaks of there being a king and rulers. Something I have certainly never argued against.

What the verse does not say is that Christians will reign over other Christians.

Compare Heb 2:5, 8, "For it is not to angels that he has subjected the inhabited earth to come, about which we are speaking." BTW Paul wrote that.

Regardless of who wrote Hebrews (not Paul, but it doesn't matter), Hebrews says nothing about Christians reigning over other Christians.


Peace again to you.

Yeah because apparently you believe that it will non-Christians that will reign over Christians.

Since I already refuted that erroneous conclusion, this post is disingenuous. Perhaps it is a deflection to hide the fact that the verses you used clearly do not support the claim that you have made - that Christians reign over other Christians.


Peace still to you.

I find this post disingenuous. I am starting to wonder if you know what a Christian even is.

I am content to let the reader decide which post is disingenuous. I said 'of course not' when you asked me if I believed that non-Christians would reign over Christian (you quoted this in post 104).

I have also repeatedly claimed in this thread that Christians reign with Christ as king-priests in His Kingdom - so how in the world would you get that I think non-Christians reign over Christians?


Peace again.

[tam]

Peace to you,

Will there be Christians who will live forever on the Earth? Yes or no.

Living and reigning upon the earth.

Remember, the New Jerusalem (the Bride), comes down out of heaven from God.

The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. Rev 3:12


I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. Rev 21:2



Not her 'influence' only. She, herself.


Peace again to you.

I don't see a yes or no here.

So I'll try again.

Will there be Christians who will live forever on the Earth? Yes or no.

I'm sorry, did you not just finish complaining that I do not provide scriptural support?

Yes, Christians will be living AND REIGNING upon the earth. Scriptural support already provided.


Peace again to you.

Living forever right?

Certainly.

But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. John 6:50-51

Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. 57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.” John 6: 53-58



Peace again to you.

[2timothy316]

Will there be Christians who will live forever on the Earth? Yes or no.

Yes,

Living forever right?

Certainly.

For forever there will be non-Christians living on the Earth? Yes or no.

[tam]

Will there be Christians who will live forever on the Earth? Yes or no.

Yes,

Living forever right?

Certainly.

For forever there will be non-Christians living on the Earth? Yes or no.

I cannot answer that question with a yes or a no.

They were non-Christians when invited into the Kingdom and they will not reign with Christ as king-priests for the thousand years. They are subjects of that Kingdom and reign.


I cannot speak as to what happens after the thousand years - if they are anointed with holy spirit or not. But they are still subjects of the Kingdom and its King, and they are living forever on the earth.

Edited to add: They will love Christ and God, and do so forever, if that makes things more understandable for you.

Peace to you.

[2timothy316]

Will there be Christians who will live forever on the Earth? Yes or no.

Yes,

Living forever right?

Certainly.

For forever there will be non-Christians living on the Earth? Yes or no.

I cannot answer that question with a yes or a no.

"And there will no longer be any ban. And the throne of God and the Lamb will be in it; and his servants, his name on their foreheads, will worship him and see his face. And there will no longer be night, and they do not need lamplight and sunlight, because the Lord God will light them; and they will reign forever and ever." - Rev 22:3-5

From were did the 'servants' of God and the Lamb who are to rule over forever and ever come from? Christians or non-Christians?

[tam]

Peace to you,

Will there be Christians who will live forever on the Earth? Yes or no.

Yes,

Living forever right?

Certainly.

For forever there will be non-Christians living on the Earth? Yes or no.

I cannot answer that question with a yes or a no.

"And there will no longer be any ban. And the throne of God and the Lamb will be in it; and his servants, his name on their foreheads, will worship him and see his face. And there will no longer be night, and they do not need lamplight and sunlight, because the Lord God will light them; and they will reign forever and ever." - Rev 22:3-5

From were did the 'servants' of God and the Lamb who are rule over forever and ever come from? Christians or non-Christians?

Servants such as those who serve in the Temple (before and during the thousand years); the ones in the City (the 'it' being referred to that has the throne of God and the Lamb in it)? These ones come from Christians.

(If you include those who served God before Christ came in the flesh (prophets, kings, etc.), then it could be both Christians and non-Christians.)


Please note that although I did not answer your former question with a simple yes or no, I DID answer your question. Why do you ignore that response?



Peace to you.

[2timothy316]

Peace to you,

Will there be Christians who will live forever on the Earth? Yes or no.

Yes,

Living forever right?

Certainly.

For forever there will be non-Christians living on the Earth? Yes or no.

I cannot answer that question with a yes or a no.

"And there will no longer be any ban. And the throne of God and the Lamb will be in it; and his servants, his name on their foreheads, will worship him and see his face. And there will no longer be night, and they do not need lamplight and sunlight, because the Lord God will light them; and they will reign forever and ever." - Rev 22:3-5

From were did the 'servants' of God and the Lamb who are rule over forever and ever come from? Christians or non-Christians?

Servants such as those who serve in the Temple (before and during the thousand years); the ones in the City (the 'it' being referred to that has the throne of God and the Lamb in it)? These ones come from Christians.

(If you include those who served God before Christ came in the flesh (prophets, kings, etc.), then it could be both Christians and non-Christians.)

Please note that although I did not answer your former question with a simple yes or no, I DID answer your question. Why do you ignore that response?



Peace to you.

You didn't answer plainly as I asked. I explained was going SUPER simple with you for clarity. You don't do this. You add extra stuff in your comments I don't ask for. I am not looking for explanations for why you believe something but SUPER simple answers on WHAT you believe. Don't know if simple binary answers are possible but let's see.

The rulers stated in Rev 22:3-5 are they ruling from Heaven or from Earth?

[tam]

Peace to you,

Peace to you,

Will there be Christians who will live forever on the Earth? Yes or no.

Yes,

Living forever right?

Certainly.

For forever there will be non-Christians living on the Earth? Yes or no.

I cannot answer that question with a yes or a no.

"And there will no longer be any ban. And the throne of God and the Lamb will be in it; and his servants, his name on their foreheads, will worship him and see his face. And there will no longer be night, and they do not need lamplight and sunlight, because the Lord God will light them; and they will reign forever and ever." - Rev 22:3-5

From were did the 'servants' of God and the Lamb who are rule over forever and ever come from? Christians or non-Christians?

Servants such as those who serve in the Temple (before and during the thousand years); the ones in the City (the 'it' being referred to that has the throne of God and the Lamb in it)? These ones come from Christians.

(If you include those who served God before Christ came in the flesh (prophets, kings, etc.), then it could be both Christians and non-Christians.)

Please note that although I did not answer your former question with a simple yes or no, I DID answer your question. Why do you ignore that response?



Peace to you.

You didn't answer plainly as I asked. I explained was going SUPER simple with you for clarity. You don't do this. You add extra stuff in your comments I don't ask for. I am not looking for explanations for why you believe something but SUPER simple answers on WHAT you believe. Don't know if simple binary answers are possible but let's see.

Simple binary answers are not possible in all the things you are asking me. That is why I SAID I could not answer your question with a simple yes or no.

You also complained earlier that I did not provide scriptural support.

The rulers stated in Rev 22:3-5 are they ruling from Heaven or from Earth?

Rev 22:3-5 states that the throne of God and the Lamb is within the city.

As stated earlier and supported with scripture, that city (New Jerusalem) comes down out of heaven from God.

New Jerusalem is the Bride (made up of Christians), and she reigns upon the Earth.

The people who make up the Bride, however, can access both heaven and earth, just as Christ can do, just as the angels can do.

Peace again to you.