Christianity's Problem

[POI]

God wants to communicate truth to his creation, right? Thus, if this is the case, then why communicate like he did? Many were/are illiterate, and/or are lazy. Meaning, many Christians have not made a true effort to read their Bible's, from cover to cover, and try to understand it completely. God would know all of this. But even if all read the Bible, and felt they understood every word, mass disagreement would soon develop anyways. As evidence by the endless denominations. Further, even the highly educated do not agree. Heck, we can even go as far as to establish that people who study hermeneutics do not agree. Even in the best case of scenarios, if everyone were to pick up a Bible, read it several times from cover to cover; mass disagreement, on many topics, would likely still persist.

For Debate:

Seems as though Jesus-God did a poor job in clearly conveying his message(s). Does Jesus-God REALLY wish to convey truth to his creation? Because if he does, why be satisfied with the published Bible?

[benchwarmer]

That image is not from the inside of the white house, and it seems to be staged/faked, if we look all video material of the event.

This video of the event tells it was more like peaceful tourist gathering than some kind of riot.

Oh boy. Cries an image is fake and then goes to Fox News for the truth? I suggest expanding your data set.

Clearly this video (go to the 7 minute mark) looks like a peaceful tourist gathering - where peaceful means violent, tourists mean trespassers, and gathering means mob.



By all means go to a news outlet that is currently in the press for pedaling lies and expect that's going to be convincing to anyone

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/ ... -rcna80382

Fox News and Dominion settle for $787.5 million in defamation lawsuit

[Diogenes]

That image is not from the inside of the white house, and it seems to be staged/faked, if we look all video material of the event.

This video of the event tells it was more like peaceful tourist gathering than some kind of riot.

White House? As I say, your ignorance is profound. NO ONE, not even Fox claimed any of this was at the WHITE HOUSE. Trump still lived there until Jan. 20. The resurrection, burglary, attack by right wing extremist Trump supporters was at the CAPITOL bldg., a completely different building where Congress was meeting to certify Joe Biden's election. Trump urged his mob to walk to the Capitol building, from White House, blocks away.

You are citing Fox News and Tucker Carlsen, both of whom admit they lie to you. Fox finally fired Carlson when his toxic racism became too much even for him. Fox just agreed to pay nearly a $Billion for lying about the election and they have Billions more dollars at stake for other lawsuits about lying. It's part of their business plan, lying to the goofy right wing, telling them what they want to hear instead of the truth, so they will watch their shows.

[TRANSPONDER]

Please tell me that we can debate with Christians here who are not all MAGA apologists.

[tam]

Peace to you,

Where even in the bible is it written that God chooses to communicate with man via a book? God communicated to people in dreams or via an angel or via His Son or even directly as Himself (the last much more rare). We wouldn't even have a book that records some of the communications that God has had with men if God had not first communicated by some other means.

You have demonstrated my point. Many Christians will sight 2 Timothy 3:16.

The man who wrote the letter to Timothy knew firsthand that Christ communicates directly to people (and that God speaks to us through His Son).

However, your response is just as curious. Even if you are right, we still have millions who claim Jesus guides them, and yet, Jesus is not guiding all in the same way, about the same things.

I don't think we have millions of people who claim that Christ or God speak to them. Some might go as far as saying that God or His Son speaks to them through the bible. Many might say that God answers their prayers. Many simply speak or write about their personal interpretation and understanding of the bible - or the interpretation from their religion, which they accept. The entire group of jws on this forum, in fact, state that God and Christ do NOT speak to men (despite what is written in the book they claim to follow).

But even if what you said were true, and despite the longer explanations that could be given, it basically boils down to one simple point: Not all who profess to be Christian are listening to Christ.



Peace again to you.

[POI]

Not all who profess to be Christian are listening to Christ.

And yet, we have countless earnest Christians, who claim they not only listen, but understand. And yet, so many conflicting conclusions. Why would Jesus-God be pleased here?

[tam]

Peace to you,

Not all who profess to be Christian are listening to Christ.

And yet, we have countless earnest Christians, who claim they not only listen, but understand. And yet, so many conflicting conclusions. Why would Jesus-God be pleased here?

Why are you assuming you know how Christ or God feels about this?

[POI]

Peace to you,

Not all who profess to be Christian are listening to Christ.

And yet, we have countless earnest Christians, who claim they not only listen, but understand. And yet, so many conflicting conclusions. Why would Jesus-God be pleased here?

Why are you assuming you know how Christ or God feels about this?

Are you suggesting Jesus-God may not be pleased with how the Bible was written? Either he was, or was not, pleased.

[tam]

Peace to you,

Peace to you,

Not all who profess to be Christian are listening to Christ.

And yet, we have countless earnest Christians, who claim they not only listen, but understand. And yet, so many conflicting conclusions. Why would Jesus-God be pleased here?

Why are you assuming you know how Christ or God feels about this?

Are you suggesting Jesus-God may not be pleased with how the Bible was written? Either he was, or was not, pleased.

I thought we had moved past the bible being the means through which God chooses to communicate with man?

[POI]

Peace to you,

Peace to you,

Not all who profess to be Christian are listening to Christ.

And yet, we have countless earnest Christians, who claim they not only listen, but understand. And yet, so many conflicting conclusions. Why would Jesus-God be pleased here?

Why are you assuming you know how Christ or God feels about this?

Are you suggesting Jesus-God may not be pleased with how the Bible was written? Either he was, or was not, pleased.

I thought we had moved past the bible being the means through which God chooses to communicate with man?

Why assume Jesus-God has moved passed the Bible, as being used as His chosen tool for proper communication? Are you a true lister of Christ? Is this what he told you? Or, are you not one of the true listers of Christ? In which case, you are the one with the assumptions.

[tam]

Peace to you,

Peace to you,

Peace to you,

Not all who profess to be Christian are listening to Christ.

And yet, we have countless earnest Christians, who claim they not only listen, but understand. And yet, so many conflicting conclusions. Why would Jesus-God be pleased here?

Why are you assuming you know how Christ or God feels about this?

Are you suggesting Jesus-God may not be pleased with how the Bible was written? Either he was, or was not, pleased.

I thought we had moved past the bible being the means through which God chooses to communicate with man?

Why assume Jesus-God has moved passed the Bible, as being used as His chosen tool for proper communication?

I thought YOU and I had moved past the CLAIM that the bible is God's chosen means of communication with mankind. You did not offer any rebuttal. You simply said I had 'kicked the problem down the road'. What did you mean by that?


Peace again.