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The Delay of the End

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Hello all. Even though I am skeptical, at the same time, I am saddened and distressed by the many horrific and terrible things that we see go on around us in the world. Therefore, as a skeptic, I still do think about things such as the last days the end times. Therefore, as far as how things just keep going on and on and on, I understand that some Christians apply Habakkuk 2:3 to the situation. So, I would like to know from any type of theist, if they think that Habakkuk 2:3 is being used properly to understand this delayed situation? And the reason why I ask is because that verse seems to be able to justify any type of delay, postponement, or unfulfillment of any type of end time expectation.
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For the revelation awaits an appointed time; it speaks of the end and will not prove false. Though it linger, wait for it; it will certainly come and will not delay.
https://biblehub.com/habakkuk/2-3.htm

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Re: The Delay of the End

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Skeptical wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 10:49 pm
2timothy316 wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 2:26 pm
2Peter 3:8,9, the scripture that OWH quoted is a key scripture but so is Psalm 14:1, 2. Jehovah God is seeking those with insight. The root word of the Hebrew word insight is prudent.

Insight definition:
the capacity to gain an accurate and deep intuitive understanding of a person or thing.

Prudent definition:
1. acting with or showing care and thought for the future
2. showing good judgment in avoiding risks and uncertainties; careful

Psalm 14:2 says that God is also seeking those that are seeking Him. We all must ask the question, what kind of person am I?

Jehovah has a set date, that date is set so as to allow as many possible that are deep thinkers, those that see past the veneer of the world and those that seek God and are smart enough to think about the future and avoid the day when all the horrible things we see are brought to an end. Yet a morbid fear of judgment on the world is not a reason to serve God.
I have an additional question. Is that something new with JWs? That God is extending the last days because he needs to find more smart people to be JWs before the end comes? Because I have never heard of that before and I kind of keep up with JWs through youtube videos.
No. When the Bible says that a date has been set, that's it. There is no extending taking place. If you have never heard that before is because no has said that before. I think you're hearing what you want to hear. If you're keeping up with JWs through youtube that is a mistake. www.jw.org is the official way to keep up with us.

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[Replying to Skeptical in post #1]

Your subject is: The Delay of the End

Then you quote as evidence a verse which states that the end awaits an appointed time and will certainly not be delayed:

Habakkuk 2:3 New International Version

For the revelation awaits an appointed time; it speaks of the end and will not prove false. Though it linger, wait for it; it will certainly come and will not delay.

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2timothy316 wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 9:45 pm
Skeptical wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 10:49 pm
2timothy316 wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 2:26 pm
2Peter 3:8,9, the scripture that OWH quoted is a key scripture but so is Psalm 14:1, 2. Jehovah God is seeking those with insight. The root word of the Hebrew word insight is prudent.

Insight definition:
the capacity to gain an accurate and deep intuitive understanding of a person or thing.

Prudent definition:
1. acting with or showing care and thought for the future
2. showing good judgment in avoiding risks and uncertainties; careful

Psalm 14:2 says that God is also seeking those that are seeking Him. We all must ask the question, what kind of person am I?

Jehovah has a set date, that date is set so as to allow as many possible that are deep thinkers, those that see past the veneer of the world and those that seek God and are smart enough to think about the future and avoid the day when all the horrible things we see are brought to an end. Yet a morbid fear of judgment on the world is not a reason to serve God.
I have an additional question. Is that something new with JWs? That God is extending the last days because he needs to find more smart people to be JWs before the end comes? Because I have never heard of that before and I kind of keep up with JWs through youtube videos.
No. When the Bible says that a date has been set, that's it. There is no extending taking place. If you have never heard that before is because no has said that before. I think you're hearing what you want to hear. If you're keeping up with JWs through youtube that is a mistake. www.jw.org is the official way to keep up with us.
So, could you show me a jw.org video or jw.org article where it says that God is holding up the end of the world because he's trying to find more smart people to worship him?

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Re: The Delay of the End

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myth-one.com wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 10:16 pm [Replying to Skeptical in post #1]

Your subject is: The Delay of the End

Then you quote as evidence a verse which states that the end awaits an appointed time and will certainly not be delayed:

Habakkuk 2:3 New International Version

For the revelation awaits an appointed time; it speaks of the end and will not prove false. Though it linger, wait for it; it will certainly come and will not delay.

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So, are those emojis for me? Because they look kind of like ad hominems. And if so, you know I will report you, don't you? 🤨

Also, why is it that everyone else in this thread knows what I meant expect for you? Therefore, maybe your emojis actually apply to you and not me. 😉 🤣

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[Replying to Skeptical in post #38]

You claim there will be a delay in the coming of the end of times.

But the scriptures as inspired by God state that there will be no delay:

Habakkuk 2:3 New International Version

For the revelation awaits an appointed time; it speaks of the end and will not prove false. Though it linger, wait for it; it will certainly come and will not delay.


Given those two possible choices, I believe what the scriptures! :D

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