What is "Worship"?
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What is "Worship"?
Post #1Generally when the phrase "Worship God" is expressed, the idea of what that means is reflected in the image above.
Is there any underlying agreement which can be identified to answer the question "What is Worship of God?"?
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Re: What is "Worship"?
Post #41[Replying to onewithhim in post #40]
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Re: What is "Worship"?
Post #42So, for now there is no identifiable underlying consensus as to "what is worship?" being offered for consideration.
Rather we have declarations of belief, and these logically cover a large spectrum of the human social structures, so any outward display of supposed "worship" is either touted "true" or "false" depending on the beliefs of those making such declarations.
Apparently this is what "Only YHWH deserves the ultimate worship, as God Almighty." looks like...
Are these really the type of worship that YHWH requires re the question "Given the two commands which "hang all the law and the prophets" wherein does it teach that we should love יהוה "more than we should love one another"?"
Rather we have declarations of belief, and these logically cover a large spectrum of the human social structures, so any outward display of supposed "worship" is either touted "true" or "false" depending on the beliefs of those making such declarations.
Apparently this is what "Only YHWH deserves the ultimate worship, as God Almighty." looks like...
Are these really the type of worship that YHWH requires re the question "Given the two commands which "hang all the law and the prophets" wherein does it teach that we should love יהוה "more than we should love one another"?"
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Re: What is "Worship"?
Post #43They are not worshipping YHWH. They are venerating other gods, so that is not what "only YHWH deserves the ultimate worship as God Almighty" looks like.William wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:14 pm So, for now there is no identifiable underlying consensus as to "what is worship?" being offered for consideration.
Rather we have declarations of belief, and these logically cover a large spectrum of the human social structures, so any outward display of supposed "worship" is either touted "true" or "false" depending on the beliefs of those making such declarations.
Apparently this is what "Only YHWH deserves the ultimate worship, as God Almighty." looks like...
Are these really the type of worship that YHWH requires re the question "Given the two commands which "hang all the law and the prophets" wherein does it teach that we should love יהוה "more than we should love one another"?"
Anyway, the true God deserves all the worship that goes to Him or regretfully some other god. His worship is different from "worship" of important individuals that are not the true God.
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Re: What is "Worship"?
Post #44I think worship can be any of those things seen in these images.
If such expression act as gateways toward a central purpose they express outwardly, and inner occurrence which is focused upon acknowledging יהוה which is the first step necessary to developing an constant uninterrupted flow between יהוה and the individual.
I think that it is this living interaction between יהוה and the individual which is significant as the answer to the question "what is worship".
Mediums have always been developmentally necessary regarding that and should not be employed as permanent means or mistaken for "the actual way one should worship יהוה", be they teachers, books, traditions, study, praise, singing, dancing, et al...
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יהוה: "I think that it is this living interaction between יהוה and the individual which is significant as the answer to the question "what is worship"."
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"I think that it is this living interaction between יהוה and the individual which is significant as the answer to the question "what is worship"."
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If such expression act as gateways toward a central purpose they express outwardly, and inner occurrence which is focused upon acknowledging יהוה which is the first step necessary to developing an constant uninterrupted flow between יהוה and the individual.
I think that it is this living interaction between יהוה and the individual which is significant as the answer to the question "what is worship".
Mediums have always been developmentally necessary regarding that and should not be employed as permanent means or mistaken for "the actual way one should worship יהוה", be they teachers, books, traditions, study, praise, singing, dancing, et al...
יהוה: That will come out in the wash - as the saying goes...
Waxing and waning.
When do you feel most fulfilled?
Me: Overall, it seems to be when I am interacting with You.
יהוה: The Thalamocortical System
Me: The contents of consciousness dependent on the state of consciousness...
יהוה: Contradiction of "official government" line.
Me: Indeed. There is the aspect of "governance" re the individual and You.
יהוה: "I think that it is this living interaction between יהוה and the individual which is significant as the answer to the question "what is worship"."
That ship is sinking
Loved
Me: I suppose a "sinking ship" isn't a problem if it designed to do so...like a submarine...
Source Intelligence and the mediums facilitate the process throughout the Grand Universe
Me: Indeed. How else is something as tiny as a human personality supposed to interact with that which created the Almighty Universe?
יהוה: Responsibility
Altruistic Behaviour
Source Intelligence
Me: So how does this incorporate into the reality being experienced? What can be said of nature which is "altruistic behaviour"?
יהוה: The Spirit of The Land (That's as convenient as diapers on a baby, and for the same reason.)
Me: So breathing life into things is the same as "dressing up" in those "things" and there is a requirement at the deep levels of interaction between mind (spirit) and organized matter to find the equilibrium...
יהוה: Text to Number.
Child
"I think that it is this living interaction between יהוה and the individual which is significant as the answer to the question "what is worship"."
Child Keep an Eye On Machine Learning Optimizing Language Models for Dialogue.
Life is a succession of lessons which must be lived to be understood...
...The Butterfly Effect Links And Symbols Something you cannot change...
Remember this;
"Subduing requires the ability to contain. Rather than chase it out in the wild, farm it.
Adam was contained within Eden for a time too. This make YHVH something of a Farmer too.
Also, The Earth itself can be said to be a container of sorts. Perhaps even a Farm that started out wild and is slowly and surely brought to heal...from within..."
A Page Of Dreams
The Dreamer dreams the dreamed and the dreamed think the dream is real.
Me: יהוה is "the dreamer of the dreams." The "dreams" are the matter that the mind has made into functional forms...
יהוה: Entity encased in a Planet
Invited The Bee To Land
Nomenclature
Reborn
Gentle
Me: The Earth Entity hasn't also been considered overly "gentle" in its relationship with biological functional forms...some things are "named" with that in mind...like calling such "monsters"...(or otherwise demonizing things).
יהוה: Dreams Search A Real Beauty
“The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched — they must be felt with the heart”
...but would be smiling as I did so…
“Good" and "evil” co-exist without either being dominant.
Remember this;
"As you may or may not know, the Jewish perception of the Hebrew culture and accompanying beliefs about YHWH [as GOD] was that they did not have the notion that GOD had enemies.
Their notion was that YHWH used what humans think of as "Good/Evil" as YHWH saw fit to do, and the only enemy/adversary/accuser anyone had to concern their selves about, was YHWH."
Me: Yes - I understand this holistic understanding to be the correct way to view יהוה.
יהוה: Astral As busy as a bee
The Spirit of The Earth
The Mainstream Program Think "The Ghost" Conspiracy Emotions.
A Sense of Hope
"I think that it is this living interaction between יהוה and the individual which is significant as the answer to the question "what is worship"."
It is a Product of Fragmentation
All of life
(27:29) ("Where has this word "Yahweh" come from?")
Communicating with Consciousness - The Nature of The Mind
Graceful
Live with Soul Union
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Re: What is "Worship"?
Post #45Yes, but the only worship that is acceptable to Jehovah is worship to Himself. All those people in the pictures are worshipping other gods, not Jehovah. His worship is the only one that counts.
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Re: What is "Worship"?
Post #46That is what the Bible says.onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:57 pmYes, but the only worship that is acceptable to Jehovah is worship to Himself. All those people in the pictures are worshipping other gods, not Jehovah. His worship is the only one that counts.
"You must not bow down to them nor be led to serve them, for I, Jehovah your God, am a God who requires exclusive devotion." Deut 5:9
“Jehovah your God you should fear, him you should serve, to him you should cling, and by his name you should swear." Deut 10:20
Would Jehovah ever share worship?
"I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else." - Isaiah 42:8
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Re: What is "Worship"?
Post #47You appear to be saying that "worship in name" is "what worship is" - at least re your particular beliefs.onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:57 pmYes, but the only worship that is acceptable to Jehovah is worship to Himself. All those people in the pictures are worshipping other gods, not Jehovah. His worship is the only one that counts.
Also - what is it that "counts"? Are you meaning "reward" of some kind?
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Re: What is "Worship"?
Post #48Living forever, happily, on a Paradise Earth. That is our reward for our worship to Him that counts.William wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:13 amYou appear to be saying that "worship in name" is "what worship is" - at least re your particular beliefs.onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:57 pmYes, but the only worship that is acceptable to Jehovah is worship to Himself. All those people in the pictures are worshipping other gods, not Jehovah. His worship is the only one that counts.
Also - what is it that "counts"? Are you meaning "reward" of some kind?
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Post #49Not to mention a friendship with the kindest, most loving being anyone will ever meet.onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:17 amLiving forever, happily, on a Paradise Earth. That is our reward for our worship to Him that counts.William wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:13 amYou appear to be saying that "worship in name" is "what worship is" - at least re your particular beliefs.onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:57 pmYes, but the only worship that is acceptable to Jehovah is worship to Himself. All those people in the pictures are worshipping other gods, not Jehovah. His worship is the only one that counts.
Also - what is it that "counts"? Are you meaning "reward" of some kind?
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Post #50The question is "what is worship?" Not "who (what name) should we worship?"onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:17 amLiving forever, happily, on a Paradise Earth. That is our reward for our worship to Him that counts.William wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:13 amYou appear to be saying that "worship in name" is "what worship is" - at least re your particular beliefs.onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:57 pmYes, but the only worship that is acceptable to Jehovah is worship to Himself. All those people in the pictures are worshipping other gods, not Jehovah. His worship is the only one that counts.
Also - what is it that "counts"? Are you meaning "reward" of some kind?
Are you saying that worship will essentially reward the worshiper with that which the worshiper wants/has been promised IF they worship a certain named God?
You wrote that the people in the images are "not worshipping" יהוה.
How can you tell that this is the case?
Indeed, is worshiping a name of a God the same thing as worshiping the God of that name?
You claim that those in the images are "venerating other gods", and that only יהוה deserves the "ultimate worship" as "God Almighty".
The thread topic is specific to potentially finding the answer to the question "what is worship of God?" In that, we appear to have a secondary branch which is claiming one has to identify "who is "God"?"... That is a different question.
We have these images that portray worship practices specific to the overall Abrahamic God idea (of which the name "Jehovah" is also a product of.)
If worship of the name-specific is what "worship" is (to answer the OP Question) then which name is the specific name to be naming The Personality behind/owing that name? (aka "God")
There are many promises accompanying each of the names people give to their gods.
Is "Love, respect, honour, fear, appreciation and awe of God" "worship of God" and if so, why would human parents and children not be treated/treat one another so, given the two commands which "hang all the law and the prophets"? (re Matthew 22:40)
Given the two commands which "hang all the law and the prophets" (re Matthew 22:40) is it realistic to expect humans to "merely" respect each other, but in some supposed superior manner, not simply "merely" respect יהוה.
Given the two commands which "hang all the law and the prophets" wherein does it teach that we should love יהוה "more than we should love one another"?
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. (Matthew 22:37...)
Perhaps "love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind" is "what is worship" and perhaps the twist in comprehension has come about through humans compartmentalizing "different types" of love "allocated" according to rank and thus a supposed "superior" love is reserved for that which is "most high"?
Perhaps too, the "second" is an external expression of an internal condition, and together these are indicative of what "worship of God" actually is?
But you argue that worship of a particular name is what worship is...or at least you appear to be arguing for that.
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