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God's Copulation With Mary

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Question 1: Would Christians still be worshipping the sons of Greco-Roman gods, had not the New Testament provided them with a different son to worship? Whether God impregnated Mary to satisfy Christians' urge for a son to worship, Replacement Theology, or impregnated Mary to satisfy his urge for a son, Sire Theology, I dare not presume.

Question 2: Why did God sexually impregnate Mary's uterus? This assumes God assigned a sex to the fetus during impregnation.

Holy Scripture: Luke 1:35 " The spirit of God will come upon you, and the power of the highest will overshadow you, therefore the holy child will be called the son of God. " Fascinating!

Question 3: What was Mary's position as God assumed his? Was Mary prone or kneeling? The grammar seems to imply she was prone! I think we can safely assume she wasn't upside down.

Question 4: Was Mary's faith a stimulant in divine copulation? Would the power have overshadowed her without faith? Did her faith evoke the sacred union? Song of Solomon 4:7 " You are beautiful, My love ..." Was there any Song of Solomon stimulation going on?

Question 5: What distinguishes Mary and God's sacred union from the sacred union of the Greco-Roman gods with their women? Sacred is sacred!

Question 6: Why must the offspring of Mary and God, be less fictional than the offspring of the Greco-Roman gods with their women? If its ridiculous for the latter, it is ridiculous for the former.

Question 7: Why do you consider the union of the Greco-Roman gods with their women as dirty ( abominable ), but the union of God with Mary as clean ( holy )?

Question 8: What assurances did Joseph have that Mary's other children were his alone, and not God's? " Jealousy is a rage in man that will seek vengeance! " Proverbs 6:4


Question 9: Would it have been sin if Mary sought God for a reunion? If she desired the power to overshadow her yet again!

Question 10: Is it possible that the entire book of Song of Solomon is about God and Mary?

I'll only respond to posts that answer all 10 questions. I won't respond to posts that just say I'm wrong.
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Re: God's Copulation With Mary

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 4:38 am Holy Scripture: Luke 1:35 " The spirit of God will come upon you, and the power of the highest will overshadow you, therefore the holy child will be called the son of God. " Fascinating!

Question 3: What was Mary's posture as God assumed his?

POSTURE :


The position in which someone holds their body when standing or sitting
Nobody knows the answer to this question. God is often depicted as "sitting" on a throne but being a spirit, we cannot take that literally. Whether she was standing or sitting at the précise moment when she was impregnated, even she arguably could not possibly know.

It seems reasonable to presume being young Mary had quite good posture

Yozavan wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:13 pm Question 4: .... Would the power have overshadowed her without faith? Did her faith evoke the sacred union?
One can only speculate on this but arguably God chose a young woman of faith as she would was To be entrusted with a very precious life.
I said position not posture. You avoided actually quoting me :shock:. I'll only respond to posts that answer all 10 questions. So until you answer all 10 questions I will not respond.
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Either Jesus is a real person who saves those who come to Him, or Christians are in bondage to legions of opposing theological factions, whereby the cross of Christ has no effect!!! 1 Corinthians 1:17,18

Is Christianity not proven false by its own claims? :(

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Yozavan wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:13 pm
Question 7: Why do you consider the union of the Greco-Roman gods with their women as dirty ( abominable ), but the union of God with Mary as clean ( holy )?

Dirty is a rather infantile and vague word when it comes to behaviour ; the sexual encounters between greco-roman gods and humans were often depicted as incestuous, extra martial, non-consentual and occassionally involved bestiality. Such behaviours are condemned in both Jewish and Christian scripture.

Jesus on the other hand was conveived according to the Christian narrative, without sexual contact , to a virgin that remained as such until after his birth. Their is no law in either the Hebrew or Greek scriptures that prohibited a virgin from giving birth.
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Yozavan wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 4:51 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 4:38 am Holy Scripture: Luke 1:35 " The spirit of God will come upon you, and the power of the highest will overshadow you, therefore the holy child will be called the son of God. " Fascinating!

Question 3: What was Mary's posture as God assumed his?

POSTURE :


The position in which someone holds their body when standing or sitting
Nobody knows the answer to this question. God is often depicted as "sitting" on a throne but being a spirit, we cannot take that literally. Whether she was standing or sitting at the précise moment when she was impregnated, even she arguably could not possibly know.

It seems reasonable to presume being young Mary had quite good posture

Yozavan wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:13 pm Question 4: .... Would the power have overshadowed her without faith? Did her faith evoke the sacred union?
One can only speculate on this but arguably God chose a young woman of faith as she would was To be entrusted with a very precious life.
I said position not posture.

The response remains totally unchanged, you can take the above to apply to position.



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You're so dishonest. In post 9 you quote my 4th question, but you used your words to incorrectly quote my 3rd question. You are very dishonest!
Either the Gospel works as advertised, or is fraudulent hocus-pocus!

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Until you learn to be honest, I won't even bother with you. I refuse to converse with dishonest people. Its a waste of my ime.
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Yozavan wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:13 pm
Question 8: What assurances did Joseph have that Mary's other children were his alone, and not God's? " Jealousy is a rage in man that will seek vengeance! " Proverbs 6:4
I doubt if he asked for them. The Christian narrative has Joseph recieving divine messages to support Mary's explanation of her first pregnancy. If the couple later had normal martial relations, there was no reason Joseph would not assume (in the absence of more divine communication or angelic visitations) that their children were not the natural result of their own sexual activity.


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Yozavan wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:13 pm
Question 10: Is it possible that the entire book of Song of Solomon is about God and Mary?

I'm sure there is someone that holds to this position but there is nothing in scripture that lends to this conclusion. Mary quoted several Hebrew passages when she speaks of her privilege of motherhood but never once quoted from the SONG of Solomon. Indeed the gospel writers, especially Matthew also apply several Hebrew prophecies to Mary and the birth of Jesus but none are from the Song of Solomon.
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 4:56 am
Yozavan wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:13 pm
Question 7: Why do you consider the union of the Greco-Roman gods with their women as dirty ( abominable ), but the union of God with Mary as clean ( holy )?

Dirty is a rather infantile and vague word when it comes to behaviour ; the sexual encounters between greco-roman gods and humans were often depicted as incestuous, extra martial, non-consentual and occassionally involved bestiality. Such behaviours are condemned in both Jewish and Christian scripture.

Jesus on the other hand was conveived according to the Christian narrative, without sexual contact , to a virgin that remained as such until after his birth. Their is no law in either the Hebrew or Greek scriptures that prohibited a virgin from giving birth.
Dirty is an infantile and vague word? ok, how's this, you're a piece of shit. I hate Jehovah Witnesses. They're total shit. Hopefully I get banned.
Either the Gospel works as advertised, or is fraudulent hocus-pocus!

Either Jesus is a real person who saves those who come to Him, or Christians are in bondage to legions of opposing theological factions, whereby the cross of Christ has no effect!!! 1 Corinthians 1:17,18

Is Christianity not proven false by its own claims? :(

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Yozavan wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:13 pmThe grammar seems to imply she was prone!
PRONE

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lying flat, especially face downwards
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Yozavan wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 5:22 am ok, how's this, you're a piece of shit. I hate Jehovah Witnesses. They're total shit. Hopefully I get banned.
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