Body, soul and spirit

[placebofactor]

The Bible tells us that we are made of three parts. We have a body of flesh made to live on earth, to think, eat, drink, sleep, and die. It's a fleshly body that covers our spiritual body and soul. The spiritual body and soul are made to honor and worship God. Now, that’s a mouthful and covers a great deal of ground. When we die, our bodies are returned to the ground.

Genesis 3:19, For out of it (the ground) were you taken, for dust you are, and unto dust shall you return.”

Question, “What happens to a man’s soul, and spirit?” Answer: The saved go to be with the Lord, for those who reject the saving grace of Jesus Christ, they will find themselves in a place called Hades.

The following occurred before Jesus was put to death, and before the church age began. Jesus is speaking to the Jews, the publicans, Pharisees, scribes, and sinners. He spoke of things the Jewish elite and the people believed and understood. The ancient Jews believed in the resurrection of the dead.

Now, Luke 16:22 concerns a beggar named Lazarus who was begging at the gate of an unidentified rich man. Verse 22, “It came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died and was buried.”

What does Luke mean by, “Carried off into Abraham’s bosom?” Matthew 8:11 tells us “Many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.” This may allude to Luke 22:29-30 when Jesus spoke to his disciples at the Last Supper. “I appoint unto you a kingdom as my Father hath appointed unto me; that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.”

As for the rich man, “He lifts up his eyes, being in torments, and sees Abraham afar off, with Lazarus in his bosom.” Because he is a Jew, he cries out, “Father Abraham have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue: for I am tormented in this flame.”

We know the man's body of flesh was buried in the ground, so what part of him remained that was able to see, hear, thirst, feel pain, and speak? The part of him that was in hell was his spirit and soul because of his pride, selfishness, and lack of compassion.

What’s going to happen to him? He will stand before the judgment seat of the LORD, but not until after the 1000-year reign of Christ ends. Revelation 20:5, “The rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.” Verse 12, “And I (John) saw the dead, small and great, stand before God, and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of these things which were written in the books, according to their works. Verse 13, “An they were judged every man according to their works.” From there, they will suffer the second death in the lake of fire. It’s not physical death, it’s spiritual death.

What about Lazarus? 1 Thessalonians 4:16, “The Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:” His body will no longer hunger or be covered with sores. Neither will our sickness and disease be with us. No cancer, diabetes, high blood pressure, poor eyesight, heart, lung, kidney or liver diseases. We will possess a perfect body, the body we were intended to have before the fall of Adam and Eve.

1 Corinthians 15:52, “In the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump, the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.”

[placebofactor]

Okay, conversation over!

A very wise decision on your part; it is best to humbly back out when one cannot support ones position with Scripture.

ALLEGORY

As a literary device, an allegory is a metaphor in which a character, place or event is used to deliver a broader message about real-world issues and occurrences.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory

THE RICH MAN AND LAZARUS : A STORY OF ALLEGORICAL DEATH

• One of the objections to the suggestion that Jesus parable of the rich man and Lazarus was entirely allegorical, is that Jesus supposedly would not have used death as an metaphor.
  
  
  
  Some suggest that his doing so would have been confusing for those that had adopted the pagan teaching of the immortality of the soul and/or be seen as somehow endorsing that teaching, which he would never have done had he himself not believed it to be true. Some therefore conclude that one of the points of his story must have been to educate people about the condition of the dead and the agony that awaits the wicked in the afterlife.

JESUS AND METAPHOR

• The gospel writers note that Jesus use of metaphor, allegory, visual aids and illustrations was prolific, indeed one writer observed that"without an illustration he would not speak". He drew on the everyday items, events and habits, even if, for some they occassionally seemed confusing or controversial.
  
  
  WOULD JESUS HAVE AVOIDED USING DEATH AS A METAPHOR FOR FEAR OF BEING MISCONSTRUED?
  
  JESUS told a would-be disciple he needed to be born...twice, said John the Baptiser was Elijah, told his disciples they needed to eat his body and drink his blood, hack off their own limbs if they were an impediment to salvation and said the respected religious leaders of his time they would end up on the city garbage heap. Clearly Jesus was not one to shy away from making his point for fear some would take away the wrong idea. Of course some could (and do even today) conclude Jesus was promoting self mutilation, canabalism, reincarnation and a disregard for burial traditions but those with insight would understand the hyperbole or humbly seek more instruction.
  
  He used birth as a metaphor for the spirit anointing, , virgins for the faithful, marriage for the kingdom arrangement, children for the religious elite....given all that it would arguably be an anomaly for him not to have used death as a metaphor for something sooner or later. Why since he used, birth, marriage, childen, fathers, would "death" be deemed as "allegorically untouchabe"?

LET THE DEAD BURY THEIR DEAD!

• Jesus's cautioned a disciple who hesitated to join him on the pretext that he had to bury his relative to "Let the dead bury their dead". The warning makes little sense unless he is using death in at lease one of the mentions allegorically. Evidently Jesus did not shy away from speaking about those that are literally alive as being "dead" (ie having died metaphorically).
  
  Indeed if Jesus listeners were unfamiliar with the idea of an allegorical "death" they should not have been. The Prophet Ezekiel had recorded God's promise to his exiled people, saying ...
  

  " I open your graves and when I raise you up out of your graves, O my people. I will put my spirit in you and you will come to life, and I will settle you on your land.

  Likening their captivity to being in the grave God here addresses people who were literally alive in Babylon as if they were dead in the grave. An allegorical grave representing thir real life captivity. A allegorical death representing their exile. And an allegorical "resurrection" representing their return.

CONCLUSION Jesus drew on the human experience including birth and death to illustrate educate, encourage, reprimand or rebuke. Thus there is no reason to conclude that the "death" of Lazarus and the Rich man could not be illustrating somethjng OTHER than literal death. If an allegory is a "character, place or event" used to deliver a broader message about real-world issues and occurrences, then the allegorical "death" of a fictional rich man, who went to a made up place of torment, could well have been Jesus way of communicating something about the real life situation he saw around him and nothing whatsoever to do with the condition of the dead.

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HADES , GEHENNA, and ... HELLFIRE TORTURE DEBUNKED

I often chuckle when I see people go through life kidding themselves and then try to convince others. Matthew 28 ...

How is your reference to Matthew 28 a rebuttal of the points made in the post?

Excuse me, sir, you have made negative comments for every post I've posted. So, I am either the most ignorant Christian that ever lived, or you're a "Blue ribbon critic."

[onewithhim]

Okay, conversation over!

A very wise decision on your part; it is best to humbly back out when one cannot support ones position with Scripture.

ALLEGORY

As a literary device, an allegory is a metaphor in which a character, place or event is used to deliver a broader message about real-world issues and occurrences.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory

THE RICH MAN AND LAZARUS : A STORY OF ALLEGORICAL DEATH

• One of the objections to the suggestion that Jesus parable of the rich man and Lazarus was entirely allegorical, is that Jesus supposedly would not have used death as an metaphor.
  
  
  
  Some suggest that his doing so would have been confusing for those that had adopted the pagan teaching of the immortality of the soul and/or be seen as somehow endorsing that teaching, which he would never have done had he himself not believed it to be true. Some therefore conclude that one of the points of his story must have been to educate people about the condition of the dead and the agony that awaits the wicked in the afterlife.

JESUS AND METAPHOR

• The gospel writers note that Jesus use of metaphor, allegory, visual aids and illustrations was prolific, indeed one writer observed that"without an illustration he would not speak". He drew on the everyday items, events and habits, even if, for some they occassionally seemed confusing or controversial.
  
  
  WOULD JESUS HAVE AVOIDED USING DEATH AS A METAPHOR FOR FEAR OF BEING MISCONSTRUED?
  
  JESUS told a would-be disciple he needed to be born...twice, said John the Baptiser was Elijah, told his disciples they needed to eat his body and drink his blood, hack off their own limbs if they were an impediment to salvation and said the respected religious leaders of his time they would end up on the city garbage heap. Clearly Jesus was not one to shy away from making his point for fear some would take away the wrong idea. Of course some could (and do even today) conclude Jesus was promoting self mutilation, canabalism, reincarnation and a disregard for burial traditions but those with insight would understand the hyperbole or humbly seek more instruction.
  
  He used birth as a metaphor for the spirit anointing, , virgins for the faithful, marriage for the kingdom arrangement, children for the religious elite....given all that it would arguably be an anomaly for him not to have used death as a metaphor for something sooner or later. Why since he used, birth, marriage, childen, fathers, would "death" be deemed as "allegorically untouchabe"?

LET THE DEAD BURY THEIR DEAD!

• Jesus's cautioned a disciple who hesitated to join him on the pretext that he had to bury his relative to "Let the dead bury their dead". The warning makes little sense unless he is using death in at lease one of the mentions allegorically. Evidently Jesus did not shy away from speaking about those that are literally alive as being "dead" (ie having died metaphorically).
  
  Indeed if Jesus listeners were unfamiliar with the idea of an allegorical "death" they should not have been. The Prophet Ezekiel had recorded God's promise to his exiled people, saying ...
  

  " I open your graves and when I raise you up out of your graves, O my people. I will put my spirit in you and you will come to life, and I will settle you on your land.

  Likening their captivity to being in the grave God here addresses people who were literally alive in Babylon as if they were dead in the grave. An allegorical grave representing thir real life captivity. A allegorical death representing their exile. And an allegorical "resurrection" representing their return.

CONCLUSION Jesus drew on the human experience including birth and death to illustrate educate, encourage, reprimand or rebuke. Thus there is no reason to conclude that the "death" of Lazarus and the Rich man could not be illustrating somethjng OTHER than literal death. If an allegory is a "character, place or event" used to deliver a broader message about real-world issues and occurrences, then the allegorical "death" of a fictional rich man, who went to a made up place of torment, could well have been Jesus way of communicating something about the real life situation he saw around him and nothing whatsoever to do with the condition of the dead.

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The Rich man and Lazarus: Is it "circular reasoning" to use Jesus illustration alone to prove "death" and "hades" is a place of torment?
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HADES , GEHENNA, and ... HELLFIRE TORTURE DEBUNKED

I often chuckle when I see people go through life kidding themselves and then try to convince others. Matthew 28 ...

How is your reference to Matthew 28 a rebuttal of the points made in the post?

Excuse me, sir, you have made negative comments for every post I've posted. So, I am either the most ignorant Christian that ever lived, or you're a "Blue ribbon critic."

You didn't answer my question.

[placebofactor]

Okay, conversation over!

A very wise decision on your part; it is best to humbly back out when one cannot support ones position with Scripture.

ALLEGORY

As a literary device, an allegory is a metaphor in which a character, place or event is used to deliver a broader message about real-world issues and occurrences.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory

THE RICH MAN AND LAZARUS : A STORY OF ALLEGORICAL DEATH

• One of the objections to the suggestion that Jesus parable of the rich man and Lazarus was entirely allegorical, is that Jesus supposedly would not have used death as an metaphor.
  
  
  
  Some suggest that his doing so would have been confusing for those that had adopted the pagan teaching of the immortality of the soul and/or be seen as somehow endorsing that teaching, which he would never have done had he himself not believed it to be true. Some therefore conclude that one of the points of his story must have been to educate people about the condition of the dead and the agony that awaits the wicked in the afterlife.

JESUS AND METAPHOR

• The gospel writers note that Jesus use of metaphor, allegory, visual aids and illustrations was prolific, indeed one writer observed that"without an illustration he would not speak". He drew on the everyday items, events and habits, even if, for some they occassionally seemed confusing or controversial.
  
  
  WOULD JESUS HAVE AVOIDED USING DEATH AS A METAPHOR FOR FEAR OF BEING MISCONSTRUED?
  
  JESUS told a would-be disciple he needed to be born...twice, said John the Baptiser was Elijah, told his disciples they needed to eat his body and drink his blood, hack off their own limbs if they were an impediment to salvation and said the respected religious leaders of his time they would end up on the city garbage heap. Clearly Jesus was not one to shy away from making his point for fear some would take away the wrong idea. Of course some could (and do even today) conclude Jesus was promoting self mutilation, canabalism, reincarnation and a disregard for burial traditions but those with insight would understand the hyperbole or humbly seek more instruction.
  
  He used birth as a metaphor for the spirit anointing, , virgins for the faithful, marriage for the kingdom arrangement, children for the religious elite....given all that it would arguably be an anomaly for him not to have used death as a metaphor for something sooner or later. Why since he used, birth, marriage, childen, fathers, would "death" be deemed as "allegorically untouchabe"?

LET THE DEAD BURY THEIR DEAD!

• Jesus's cautioned a disciple who hesitated to join him on the pretext that he had to bury his relative to "Let the dead bury their dead". The warning makes little sense unless he is using death in at lease one of the mentions allegorically. Evidently Jesus did not shy away from speaking about those that are literally alive as being "dead" (ie having died metaphorically).
  
  Indeed if Jesus listeners were unfamiliar with the idea of an allegorical "death" they should not have been. The Prophet Ezekiel had recorded God's promise to his exiled people, saying ...
  

  " I open your graves and when I raise you up out of your graves, O my people. I will put my spirit in you and you will come to life, and I will settle you on your land.

  Likening their captivity to being in the grave God here addresses people who were literally alive in Babylon as if they were dead in the grave. An allegorical grave representing thir real life captivity. A allegorical death representing their exile. And an allegorical "resurrection" representing their return.

CONCLUSION Jesus drew on the human experience including birth and death to illustrate educate, encourage, reprimand or rebuke. Thus there is no reason to conclude that the "death" of Lazarus and the Rich man could not be illustrating somethjng OTHER than literal death. If an allegory is a "character, place or event" used to deliver a broader message about real-world issues and occurrences, then the allegorical "death" of a fictional rich man, who went to a made up place of torment, could well have been Jesus way of communicating something about the real life situation he saw around him and nothing whatsoever to do with the condition of the dead.

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viewtopic.php?p=1027531#p1027531

The Rich man and Lazarus: Is it "circular reasoning" to use Jesus illustration alone to prove "death" and "hades" is a place of torment?
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Does Luke 12:5 indicate there is a part of a person living after they die ?
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HADES , GEHENNA, and ... HELLFIRE TORTURE DEBUNKED

I often chuckle when I see people go through life kidding themselves and then try to convince others. Matthew 28 ...

How is your reference to Matthew 28 a rebuttal of the points made in the post?

Excuse me, sir, you have made negative comments for every post I've posted. So, I am either the most ignorant Christian that ever lived, or you're a "Blue ribbon critic."

You didn't answer my question.

I answer every question, you just don't understand my answers. Maybe my answers are too deep for some to digest. Or it may be possible your approach is wrong or subjects like these, are too deep.

[Capbook]

[Replying to placebofactor in post #1]

The body is our physical self, alive or dead. The soul is the person--everything about that individual including his thoughts. Even animals are called "souls." The spirit is simply the power of God that causes a soul to be animated, to breathe.

I've read somewhere, it maybe you or someone that said there are "living souls and dead soul?
You agree with that?

Yes.
Jehovah says: "Look! All the souls---to me they belong....The soul that is sinning---it will die." (Ezekiel 18:4)

So, a soul can die.

Yes, the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
In the incident below with Elijah, the return of the child's soul and breath are identical in meaning. You do not have a ghost-like immortal soul that survives your physical death.
Life is what makes us a soul. Do death makes us a soul? Yes or no?
Without life we perish. (John 3:16)

1 Ki 17:17 And it came to pass after these things, that the son of the woman, the mistress of the house, fell sick; and his sickness was so sore, that there was no breath left in him.

1 Ki 17:21 And he stretched himself upon the child three times, and cried unto the LORD, and said, O LORD my God, I pray thee, let this child's soul come into him again.
1 Ki 17:22 And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived.

[onewithhim]

Okay, conversation over!

A very wise decision on your part; it is best to humbly back out when one cannot support ones position with Scripture.

ALLEGORY

As a literary device, an allegory is a metaphor in which a character, place or event is used to deliver a broader message about real-world issues and occurrences.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory

THE RICH MAN AND LAZARUS : A STORY OF ALLEGORICAL DEATH

• One of the objections to the suggestion that Jesus parable of the rich man and Lazarus was entirely allegorical, is that Jesus supposedly would not have used death as an metaphor.
  
  
  
  Some suggest that his doing so would have been confusing for those that had adopted the pagan teaching of the immortality of the soul and/or be seen as somehow endorsing that teaching, which he would never have done had he himself not believed it to be true. Some therefore conclude that one of the points of his story must have been to educate people about the condition of the dead and the agony that awaits the wicked in the afterlife.

JESUS AND METAPHOR

• The gospel writers note that Jesus use of metaphor, allegory, visual aids and illustrations was prolific, indeed one writer observed that"without an illustration he would not speak". He drew on the everyday items, events and habits, even if, for some they occassionally seemed confusing or controversial.
  
  
  WOULD JESUS HAVE AVOIDED USING DEATH AS A METAPHOR FOR FEAR OF BEING MISCONSTRUED?
  
  JESUS told a would-be disciple he needed to be born...twice, said John the Baptiser was Elijah, told his disciples they needed to eat his body and drink his blood, hack off their own limbs if they were an impediment to salvation and said the respected religious leaders of his time they would end up on the city garbage heap. Clearly Jesus was not one to shy away from making his point for fear some would take away the wrong idea. Of course some could (and do even today) conclude Jesus was promoting self mutilation, canabalism, reincarnation and a disregard for burial traditions but those with insight would understand the hyperbole or humbly seek more instruction.
  
  He used birth as a metaphor for the spirit anointing, , virgins for the faithful, marriage for the kingdom arrangement, children for the religious elite....given all that it would arguably be an anomaly for him not to have used death as a metaphor for something sooner or later. Why since he used, birth, marriage, childen, fathers, would "death" be deemed as "allegorically untouchabe"?

LET THE DEAD BURY THEIR DEAD!

• Jesus's cautioned a disciple who hesitated to join him on the pretext that he had to bury his relative to "Let the dead bury their dead". The warning makes little sense unless he is using death in at lease one of the mentions allegorically. Evidently Jesus did not shy away from speaking about those that are literally alive as being "dead" (ie having died metaphorically).
  
  Indeed if Jesus listeners were unfamiliar with the idea of an allegorical "death" they should not have been. The Prophet Ezekiel had recorded God's promise to his exiled people, saying ...
  

  " I open your graves and when I raise you up out of your graves, O my people. I will put my spirit in you and you will come to life, and I will settle you on your land.

  Likening their captivity to being in the grave God here addresses people who were literally alive in Babylon as if they were dead in the grave. An allegorical grave representing thir real life captivity. A allegorical death representing their exile. And an allegorical "resurrection" representing their return.

CONCLUSION Jesus drew on the human experience including birth and death to illustrate educate, encourage, reprimand or rebuke. Thus there is no reason to conclude that the "death" of Lazarus and the Rich man could not be illustrating somethjng OTHER than literal death. If an allegory is a "character, place or event" used to deliver a broader message about real-world issues and occurrences, then the allegorical "death" of a fictional rich man, who went to a made up place of torment, could well have been Jesus way of communicating something about the real life situation he saw around him and nothing whatsoever to do with the condition of the dead.

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Luke 16:22-30 : Does the parable of The Rich man and Lazarus teach us about life beyond the grave?
viewtopic.php?p=1162187#p1162187

In the parable of The Rich man and Lazarus, was death a metaphor for .... "death" ?
viewtopic.php?p=1027531#p1027531

The Rich man and Lazarus: Is it "circular reasoning" to use Jesus illustration alone to prove "death" and "hades" is a place of torment?
viewtopic.php?p=1027686#p1027686

Does Luke 12:5 indicate there is a part of a person living after they die ?
viewtopic.php?p=1027464#p1027464

To learn more please go to other posts related to...

HADES , GEHENNA, and ... HELLFIRE TORTURE DEBUNKED

I often chuckle when I see people go through life kidding themselves and then try to convince others. Matthew 28 ...

How is your reference to Matthew 28 a rebuttal of the points made in the post?

Excuse me, sir, you have made negative comments for every post I've posted. So, I am either the most ignorant Christian that ever lived, or you're a "Blue ribbon critic."

You didn't answer my question.

I answer every question, you just don't understand my answers. Maybe my answers are too deep for some to digest. Or it may be possible your approach is wrong or subjects like these, are too deep.

You didn't answer my question. How is your reference to Matthew 28 a rebuttal of the points made in the above post"?

[Capbook]

[Replying to placebofactor in post #1]

The body is our physical self, alive or dead. The soul is the person--everything about that individual including his thoughts. Even animals are called "souls." The spirit is simply the power of God that causes a soul to be animated, to breathe.

I've read somewhere, it maybe you or someone that said there are "living souls and dead soul?
You agree with that?

Yes.
Jehovah says: "Look! All the souls---to me they belong....The soul that is sinning---it will die." (Ezekiel 18:4)

So, a soul can die.

Yes, the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
In the incident below with Elijah, the return of the child's soul and breath are identical in meaning. You do not have a ghost-like immortal soul that survives your physical death.
Life is what makes us a soul. Do death makes us a soul? Yes or no?
Without life we perish. (John 3:16)

1 Ki 17:17 And it came to pass after these things, that the son of the woman, the mistress of the house, fell sick; and his sickness was so sore, that there was no breath left in him.

1 Ki 17:21 And he stretched himself upon the child three times, and cried unto the LORD, and said, O LORD my God, I pray thee, let this child's soul come into him again.
1 Ki 17:22 And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived.

Onewithhim I believe you missed my question I colored blue above in response to your statement that there is "dead soul".

[onewithhim]

[Replying to placebofactor in post #1]

The body is our physical self, alive or dead. The soul is the person--everything about that individual including his thoughts. Even animals are called "souls." The spirit is simply the power of God that causes a soul to be animated, to breathe.

I've read somewhere, it maybe you or someone that said there are "living souls and dead soul?
You agree with that?

Yes.
Jehovah says: "Look! All the souls---to me they belong....The soul that is sinning---it will die." (Ezekiel 18:4)

So, a soul can die.

Yes, the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
In the incident below with Elijah, the return of the child's soul and breath are identical in meaning. You do not have a ghost-like immortal soul that survives your physical death.
Life is what makes us a soul. Do death makes us a soul? Yes or no?
Without life we perish. (John 3:16)

1 Ki 17:17 And it came to pass after these things, that the son of the woman, the mistress of the house, fell sick; and his sickness was so sore, that there was no breath left in him.

1 Ki 17:21 And he stretched himself upon the child three times, and cried unto the LORD, and said, O LORD my God, I pray thee, let this child's soul come into him again.
1 Ki 17:22 And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived.

Onewithhim I believe you missed my question I colored blue above in response to your statement that there is "dead soul".

We ARE a soul. That is everything about us. I don't know what you are saying when you ask "Do death makes us a soul?"

Elijah prayed that the boy's life as a soul would be returned to him. It's not that a soul re-entered his body. Someone could say, "I am dying!" He could say also, "My soul is dying." When a person is dead, his soul is dead.

"The soul of the child came into him again" means that life was restored to the dead soul of the boy.

[Capbook]

[Replying to placebofactor in post #1]

The body is our physical self, alive or dead. The soul is the person--everything about that individual including his thoughts. Even animals are called "souls." The spirit is simply the power of God that causes a soul to be animated, to breathe.

I've read somewhere, it maybe you or someone that said there are "living souls and dead soul?
You agree with that?

Yes.
Jehovah says: "Look! All the souls---to me they belong....The soul that is sinning---it will die." (Ezekiel 18:4)

So, a soul can die.

Yes, the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
In the incident below with Elijah, the return of the child's soul and breath are identical in meaning. You do not have a ghost-like immortal soul that survives your physical death.
Life is what makes us a soul. Do death makes us a soul? Yes or no?
Without life we perish. (John 3:16)

1 Ki 17:17 And it came to pass after these things, that the son of the woman, the mistress of the house, fell sick; and his sickness was so sore, that there was no breath left in him.

1 Ki 17:21 And he stretched himself upon the child three times, and cried unto the LORD, and said, O LORD my God, I pray thee, let this child's soul come into him again.
1 Ki 17:22 And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived.

Onewithhim I believe you missed my question I colored blue above in response to your statement that there is "dead soul".

We ARE a soul. That is everything about us. I don't know what you are saying when you ask "Do death makes us a soul?"

Elijah prayed that the boy's life as a soul would be returned to him. It's not that a soul re-entered his body. Someone could say, "I am dying!" He could say also, "My soul is dying." When a person is dead, his soul is dead.

"The soul of the child came into him again" means that life was restored to the dead soul of the boy.

I find no "dead soul" in the Bible, only "living soul died".
I mean when there is life, there is soul.
When dead that is "dead body", because life makes us a soul. The soul(living) who touches the dead body shall be cut off from Israel: because the water of separation was not sprinkled upon him, he shall be unclean; his uncleanness is yet upon him.(Num 19:13)

Num 19:13 Whosoever toucheth the dead body of any man that is dead, and purifieth not himself, defileth the tabernacle of the LORD; and that soul shall be cut off from Israel: because the water of separation was not sprinkled upon him, he shall be unclean; his uncleanness is yet upon him.

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The body is our physical self, alive or dead. The soul is the person--everything about that individual including his thoughts. Even animals are called "souls." The spirit is simply the power of God that causes a soul to be animated, to breathe.

I've read somewhere, it maybe you or someone that said there are "living souls and dead soul?
You agree with that?

Yes.
Jehovah says: "Look! All the souls---to me they belong....The soul that is sinning---it will die." (Ezekiel 18:4)

So, a soul can die.

Yes, the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
In the incident below with Elijah, the return of the child's soul and breath are identical in meaning. You do not have a ghost-like immortal soul that survives your physical death.
Life is what makes us a soul. Do death makes us a soul? Yes or no?
Without life we perish. (John 3:16)

1 Ki 17:17 And it came to pass after these things, that the son of the woman, the mistress of the house, fell sick; and his sickness was so sore, that there was no breath left in him.

1 Ki 17:21 And he stretched himself upon the child three times, and cried unto the LORD, and said, O LORD my God, I pray thee, let this child's soul come into him again.
1 Ki 17:22 And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived.

Onewithhim I believe you missed my question I colored blue above in response to your statement that there is "dead soul".

We ARE a soul. That is everything about us. I don't know what you are saying when you ask "Do death makes us a soul?"

Elijah prayed that the boy's life as a soul would be returned to him. It's not that a soul re-entered his body. Someone could say, "I am dying!" He could say also, "My soul is dying." When a person is dead, his soul is dead.

"The soul of the child came into him again" means that life was restored to the dead soul of the boy.

I find no "dead soul" in the Bible, only "living soul died".
I mean when there is life, there is soul.
When dead that is "dead body", because life makes us a soul. The soul(living) who touches the dead body shall be cut off from Israel: because the water of separation was not sprinkled upon him, he shall be unclean; his uncleanness is yet upon him.(Num 19:13)

Num 19:13 Whosoever toucheth the dead body of any man that is dead, and purifieth not himself, defileth the tabernacle of the LORD; and that soul shall be cut off from Israel: because the water of separation was not sprinkled upon him, he shall be unclean; his uncleanness is yet upon him.

The word soul is used in a multitude of ways. If you don't do your homework and apply it in a way not meant, you will change the meaning of a verse.

The soul can speak of our breath. Luke 12:20, "God said unto him, thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of you:"

The soul, in the antithetic declaration of Jesus, refers not only to natural life but also to life as continued beyond the grave, John 12:25, "He that loves his life shall lose it; and he that hates his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal." The word life here is the same Greek word for soul."

Specifically, as the seat of the senses, desires, affections, appetites, and passions. Also, the lower and animal nature common to man with the beasts. 1 Thessalonians 5:23, "I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Hebrews 4:12, "For the word of God is quick (living) and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul, and spirit, and of the joints and marrow (the flesh),"

It can be speaking of the mind, and feelings, Matthew 11:29, Jesus said, "Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me: for I am meek and lowly in heart: and you shall find rest unto you souls."

The soul as the seat of desires, affections, and appetites is often ascribed to that which strictly belongs to the person himself; Matthew 12:18, "Behold my servant whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased:"

Generally, the soul of man, his spiritual and immortal nature with all its higher and lower powers, its rational soul and animal faculties. Matthew 10:28, "Fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

A living thing, an animal in which is life. 1 Corinthians 15:45, "The first man Adam was made a living soul."

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[Replying to placebofactor in post #1]

The body is our physical self, alive or dead. The soul is the person--everything about that individual including his thoughts. Even animals are called "souls." The spirit is simply the power of God that causes a soul to be animated, to breathe.

I've read somewhere, it maybe you or someone that said there are "living souls and dead soul?
You agree with that?

Yes.
Jehovah says: "Look! All the souls---to me they belong....The soul that is sinning---it will die." (Ezekiel 18:4)

So, a soul can die.

Yes, the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
In the incident below with Elijah, the return of the child's soul and breath are identical in meaning. You do not have a ghost-like immortal soul that survives your physical death.
Life is what makes us a soul. Do death makes us a soul? Yes or no?
Without life we perish. (John 3:16)

1 Ki 17:17 And it came to pass after these things, that the son of the woman, the mistress of the house, fell sick; and his sickness was so sore, that there was no breath left in him.

1 Ki 17:21 And he stretched himself upon the child three times, and cried unto the LORD, and said, O LORD my God, I pray thee, let this child's soul come into him again.
1 Ki 17:22 And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived.

Onewithhim I believe you missed my question I colored blue above in response to your statement that there is "dead soul".

We ARE a soul. That is everything about us. I don't know what you are saying when you ask "Do death makes us a soul?"

Elijah prayed that the boy's life as a soul would be returned to him. It's not that a soul re-entered his body. Someone could say, "I am dying!" He could say also, "My soul is dying." When a person is dead, his soul is dead.

"The soul of the child came into him again" means that life was restored to the dead soul of the boy.

I find no "dead soul" in the Bible, only "living soul died".
I mean when there is life, there is soul.
When dead that is "dead body", because life makes us a soul. The soul(living) who touches the dead body shall be cut off from Israel: because the water of separation was not sprinkled upon him, he shall be unclean; his uncleanness is yet upon him.(Num 19:13)

You say that you found in the Bible that a living soul can die. That means a soul can be a dead soul. Life doesn't make us a soul. The soul can die. (Ezekiel 18:4)