"Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak."

[Athetotheist]

What are we to make of this?




Do they not realize that they're making Jesus out to be a liar?

"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."
(Matthew 24:35)

"He that loveth Me not, keepeth not My sayings. And the Word which you hear is not Mine, but the Fathers who sent Me."
(John 14:24)

[AgnosticBoy]

If dozens of investigations and lawsuits were unable to find any evidence of widespread voter fraud, one must conclude that either the federal judiciary (including many judges appointed by Donald Trump) is completely involved in some grand conspiracy, or there wasn't an widespread voter fraud.

Or a particular form of cheating may happen a lot but it's hard to catch it. Given the increase in mail-in voting, fraud can be done just as simple as throwing the ballots in the trash. Unsuspecting voters who don't follow up on their ballot status, esp. those in poorer communities, are likely the easiest victims of this.

Check this story where ballots were thrown away and pay attention to the way it was discovered.. pretty much by chance... someone just looking through the trash (and we know people don't always look at the trash.. it's not standard protocol so then that can easily go uncaught)...
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tempora ... d=73251533

[marke]

[Replying to The Barbarian in post #87]

Since no serious in-depth investigations into widespread voter fraud were conducted.....

Over sixty cases were filed and the widespread fraud claim was dismissed for lack of evidence.
https://campaignlegal.org/results-lawsu ... -elections

Marke: Sixty voter fraud cases were dismissed for all sorts of reasons in the first few weeks or months after the 2020 election. However, serious investigations into fraud take months and few, if any, serious investigations to uncover the truth about clear evidence of suspected fraud were ever conducted.

Trump won and I thank God he is making serious efforts to bring common sense and honesty back to our government.

I guess we'll see about that....

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/starli ... 025-02-27/

https://www.govexec.com/oversight/2025/ ... ay/403177/


Abstain from all appearance of evil.
1 Thessalonians 5:22

Being patriotic is one thing, but as a Christian you should mindfully avoid the idolatry of taking the word of any mortal man as infallible.

[marke]

If dozens of investigations and lawsuits were unable to find any evidence of widespread voter fraud, one must conclude that either the federal judiciary (including many judges appointed by Donald Trump) is completely involved in some grand conspiracy, or there wasn't an widespread voter fraud.

Or a particular form of cheating may happen a lot but it's hard to catch it. Given the increase in mail-in voting, fraud can be done just as simple as throwing the ballots in the trash. Unsuspecting voters who don't follow up on their ballot status, esp. those in poorer communities, are likely the easiest victims of this.

Check this story where ballots were thrown away and pay attention to the way it was discovered.. pretty much by chance... someone just looking through the trash (and we know people don't always look at the trash.. it's not standard protocol so then that can easily go uncaught)...
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tempora ... d=73251533

Marke: At least one Dominion machine was examined while thousands of Dominion machines were not allowed to be thoroughly examined by non-biased forensics experts because of Dominion's priprietary rights. It was a Dominion official who was caught on undercover film bragging that Dominion would make sure Trump did not win in 2020. The one Dominion machine that a court ordered Dominion to allow to be examined had flipped thousands of votes from Trump to Biden on election night 2020.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to AgnosticBoy in post #91]

From the article, with emphasis mine:

An incident regarding "a small number" of discarded mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania -- which has sparked a Department of Justice investigation and drawn the attention of President Donald Trump -- appears to be rooted in an administrative error by a temporary contractor working at the Luzerne County Elections Bureau, according to the county manager.....

FBI Director Christopher Wray discussed fraudulent voting during a Senate hearing Thursday, saying, "We have not seen, historically, any kind of coordinated national voter fraud effort in a major election, whether it's by mail or otherwise."


There certainly are legitimate concerns over possible fraudulent voting, including:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... two-states


And sometimes, it apparently depends on who you are:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -disparity

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to marke in post #93]

It was a Dominion official who was caught on undercover film bragging that Dominion would make sure Trump did not win in 2020.

What's your source on that?

Edit:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/eric- ... ion-trump/

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to marke in post #92]

Sixty voter fraud cases were dismissed for all sorts of reasons in the first few weeks or months after the 2020 election. However, serious investigations into fraud take months and few, if any, serious investigations to uncover the truth about clear evidence of suspected fraud were ever conducted.

https://www.snopes.com/collections/no-s ... raud-2020/

[The Barbarian]

If dozens of investigations and lawsuits were unable to find any evidence of widespread voter fraud, one must conclude that either the federal judiciary (including many judges appointed by Donald Trump) is completely involved in some grand conspiracy, or there wasn't an widespread voter fraud.

Or a particular form of cheating may happen a lot but it's hard to catch it. Given the increase in mail-in voting, fraud can be done just as simple as throwing the ballots in the trash. Unsuspecting voters who don't follow up on their ballot status, esp. those in poorer communities, are likely the easiest victims of this.

Check this story where ballots were thrown away and pay attention to the way it was discovered.. pretty much by chance... someone just looking through the trash (and we know people don't always look at the trash.. it's not standard protocol so then that can easily go uncaught)...
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tempora ... d=73251533

Marke: At least one Dominion machine was examined while thousands of Dominion machines were not allowed to be thoroughly examined by non-biased forensics experts because of Dominion's priprietary rights. It was a Dominion official who was caught on undercover film bragging that Dominion would make sure Trump did not win in 2020. The one Dominion machine that a court ordered Dominion to allow to be examined had flipped thousands of votes from Trump to Biden on election night 2020.

These stories were peddled around, but when Trump-appointed judges asked to see the evidence, the lawyers failed to show any. If you have such evidence it's not too late to get it to the Trump administration; they would be able to indict people over that. What do you have?

It might be true in red states that ballots could be secretly trashed, but I remain unconvinced that there was a systematic attempt to disenfranchise poor or minority voters by such methods. It's easier to just set up difficult voter identification processes likely to prevent such people from voting. The fact that most attempts to suppress voting were done that way suggests that it's safer and more effective.

[marke]

[Replying to AgnosticBoy in post #91]

From the article, with emphasis mine:

An incident regarding "a small number" of discarded mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania -- which has sparked a Department of Justice investigation and drawn the attention of President Donald Trump -- appears to be rooted in an administrative error by a temporary contractor working at the Luzerne County Elections Bureau, according to the county manager.....

FBI Director Christopher Wray discussed fraudulent voting during a Senate hearing Thursday, saying, "We have not seen, historically, any kind of coordinated national voter fraud effort in a major election, whether it's by mail or otherwise."


There certainly are legitimate concerns over possible fraudulent voting, including:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... two-states


And sometimes, it apparently depends on who you are:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -disparity

Marke: Chris Wray was a lying leftist scumbag who worked hard to try to bring down President Trump in support of the corrupt democrat party. Of course he never intended to find voting fraud no matter how clear the existence of unrefuted evidence of massive 2020 election fraud.

[marke]

[Replying to marke in post #93]

It was a Dominion official who was caught on undercover film bragging that Dominion would make sure Trump did not win in 2020.

What's your source on that?

Edit:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/eric- ... ion-trump/

Marke: Democrats and lefties do not believe facts no matter how clearly the evidence prove the facts. Evidence has been shown many times while leftists ignore it, lie about it, or dismiss it. Leftists do not care about God, truth, or facts. Their goal is to protect and prolong their own depravity and corruption. Don't be like them.

EXCLUSIVE: Coomer Deposition Released! Verifies Antifa Facebook Posts, Extreme Left Bias | The Gateway Pundit | by Ben Wetmore 10-12-21
EXCLUSIVE: Coomer Deposition Released! Verifies Antifa Facebook Posts, Extreme Left Bias
By Ben Wetmore Oct. 12, 2021 8:10 am4394 Comments

Eric Coomer is the former Director of Security and Product Strategy for Dominion Voting Systems. After the 2020 election debacle, where votes in at least five states had very suspicious results while running Dominion computer systems, center-right journalists made common-sense observations that the results appeared rigged. One journalist, who had infiltrated a conference call filled with Antifa-sympathizing callers, remembered that on the call "Eric from Dominion" was going to ensure that Trump did not win re-election.
The mainstream media has spent a year bullying and suppressing the thousands of eyewitnesses, filed affidavits, investigations and proceedings meant to uncover the big fraud.
Instead, they call all speculation as to what caused sleepy Joe Biden to make magical 2 a.m. leaps of hundreds of thousands of votes, propelling him to victory, the "big lie."
Even internal Dominion whistleblowers, courageous people like Michigans Mellissa Carone, have come forward to document the election day suspicious actions and operations of Dominion.
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EXCLUSIVE: Coomer Deposition Released! Verifies Antifa Facebook Posts, Extreme Left Bias | The Gateway Pundit | by Ben Wetmore 10-12-21
EXCLUSIVE: Coomer Deposition Released! Verifies Antifa Facebook Posts, Extreme Left Bias
By Ben Wetmore Oct. 12, 2021 8:10 am4394 Comments

After the Facebook Posts began circulating throughout the internet, Coomer deleted at least 80 of his posts, later telling colleagues that he screwed up. When asked to clarify what that meant, why he would think he screwed up, he hedged and dodged and tap-danced to avoid the obvious answer: because he was the head of Product Strategy and Security for voting systems in 28 presidential election states in 2020, including every swing state, and yet was publicly posting vicious anti-Trump screeds, including the nastiest comments possible against Trump voters whom he called fascists.
Coomer said of Trump voters, prior to the election, "you deserve nothing but contempt" and they were "absolute Fing idiots."

LISTEN TO ERIC COOMER, BEING DEPOSED, ADMIT HE STILL THINKS ALL TRUMP VOTERS ARE "FING IDIOTS":
Any business that employed Trump voters, Coomer said, were "complete morons."
THIS EXTREME-LEFT ZEALOT WAS THE HEAD OF SECURITY FOR DOMINION.
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Judge puts protective order on Eric Coomer testimony in deposition by Sidney Powell World Tribune: U.S. Politics and Culture, Geostrategy, China, North Korea, Corporate Watch, Media Watch 10-1-21
Saturday, August 26, 2023
Judge puts protective order on Eric Coomer testimony in deposition by Sidney Powell
by WorldTribune Staff, October 1, 2021
Attorney Sidney Powell announced last week that her legal team had been granted the opportunity by a Colorado court to depose Dominion Voting Systems security director Eric Coomer.

Judge Moses ruled that Coomers deposition "should be protected from disclosure outside of these proceedings at this time and until otherwise modified by subsequent order of the Court."
In early October of 2020, a week before early voting started in Georgia, 11 Alive news reported that Dominion updated all the voting machines in the state: "The state told us last week that the update was routine. But the sheer scope of the update of the states 34,000 or so voting machines is whats raising eyebrows. The biggest update occurred last week at Fulton Countys voter warehouse in northwest Atlanta. Critics have filed suit to scuttle the voting machine because they say the update is more than Georgias 159 counties can safely handle."
Gateway Pundit reported at the time that Coomer was the individual who updated the machines. ...

In early October of 2020, a week before early voting started in Georgia, 11 Alive news reported that Dominion updated all the voting machines in the state: "The state told us last week that the update was routine. But the sheer scope of the update of the states 34,000 or so voting machines is whats raising eyebrows. The biggest update occurred last week at Fulton Countys voter warehouse in northwest Atlanta. Critics have filed suit to scuttle the voting machine because they say the update is more than Georgias 159 counties can safely handle."
Gateway Pundit reported at the time that Coomer was the individual who updated the machines.
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[marke]

[Replying to marke in post #92]

Sixty voter fraud cases were dismissed for all sorts of reasons in the first few weeks or months after the 2020 election. However, serious investigations into fraud take months and few, if any, serious investigations to uncover the truth about clear evidence of suspected fraud were ever conducted.

https://www.snopes.com/collections/no-s ... raud-2020/

Marke: It's been 4 years and still no serious investigations into the unrefuted evidence of widespread 2020 voting fraud.