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onewithhim wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:09 amI asked "to whom was Jesus praying,
The Father.
onewithhim wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:09 amif he and Jehovah are the same?"
They're the same God, not the same person.
onewithhim wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:09 amI got no answer.
Because your questions don't actually address the Doctrine of the Trinity.
My pronouns are he, him, and his.

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Bible_Student wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:23 am
Difflugia wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:02 am... the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are in hypostatic union as Jehovah. It's a mystery.
That is not what the Scripture teaches.

Acts 3:13?The God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of our forefathers,
God the Father.
Bible_Student wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:23 amhas glorified his Servant, Jesus,
God the Son.
Bible_Student wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:23 amwhom you handed over and disowned before Pilate, even though he had decided to release him.
Sounds pretty orthodox to me.

The problem that you're going to keep having is that if you want there to be one, single, unified theology of God, it has to include all four Gospels and Trinitarianism fits the Synoptics better than Arianism fits John. Your prooftexting argues against Modalism, but not the orthodox view of the Trinity.
My pronouns are he, him, and his.

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Difflugia wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:52 am
onewithhim wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:09 amI asked "to whom was Jesus praying,
The Father.
onewithhim wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:09 amif he and Jehovah are the same?"
They're the same God, not the same person.
onewithhim wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:09 amI got no answer.
Because your questions don't actually address the Doctrine of the Trinity.
They certainly do. I was a trinitarian for over 30 years, so I know what the doctrine is.

I'm waiting for Placebo to answer, because he believes that Jesus IS Jehovah.

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onewithhim wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:30 pmI'm waiting for Placebo to answer, because he believes that Jesus IS Jehovah.
Yes. Trinitarians believe that Jesus is the God Jehovah. So is the Father. So is the Holy Spirit. They're different persons, though. They don't believe that Jesus is the Father or that the Father is the Holy Spirit.
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Difflugia wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:17 pm
onewithhim wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:30 pmI'm waiting for Placebo to answer, because he believes that Jesus IS Jehovah.
Yes. Trinitarians believe that Jesus is the God Jehovah. So is the Father. So is the Holy Spirit. They're different persons, though. They don't believe that Jesus is the Father or that the Father is the Holy Spirit.
Very good difflugia, couldn't have said it any better.

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placebofactor wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 6:03 pm
Difflugia wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:17 pm
onewithhim wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:30 pmI'm waiting for Placebo to answer, because he believes that Jesus IS Jehovah.
Yes. Trinitarians believe that Jesus is the God Jehovah. So is the Father. So is the Holy Spirit. They're different persons, though. They don't believe that Jesus is the Father or that the Father is the Holy Spirit.
Very good difflugia, couldn't have said it any better.
That is not what placebo was saying. He didn't say that there were three individuals. He said that Jesus IS Jehovah. That is not the same as what you are saying, difflugia.

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onewithhim wrote: Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:14 pmThat is not what placebo was saying. He didn't say that there were three individuals. He said that Jesus IS Jehovah. That is not the same as what you are saying, difflugia.
Are you sure you weren't accidentally a heretic while you were a Baptist?

Jesus IS Jehovah. So IS the Father. So IS the Holy Spirit.

Considering that he just agreed with what I wrote, you may want to reread what you think he wrote. Or maybe somebody misspoke. I've also noticed that you sometimes mix up "Jehovah" and "the Father" in your head when you're making your arguments. That always works in Witness theology, but doesn't always work in orthodox Trinitarian theology.
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onewithhim wrote: Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:14 pm
placebofactor wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 6:03 pm
Difflugia wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:17 pm
onewithhim wrote: Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:30 pmI'm waiting for Placebo to answer, because he believes that Jesus IS Jehovah.
Yes. Trinitarians believe that Jesus is the God Jehovah. So is the Father. So is the Holy Spirit. They're different persons, though. They don't believe that Jesus is the Father or that the Father is the Holy Spirit.
Very good difflugia, couldn't have said it any better.
That is not what placebo was saying. He didn't say that there were three individuals. He said that Jesus IS Jehovah. That is not the same as what you are saying, difflugia.
Onewithhim, I have answered your question in my most recent post, God's attributes.

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Difflugia wrote: Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:18 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:14 pmThat is not what placebo was saying. He didn't say that there were three individuals. He said that Jesus IS Jehovah. That is not the same as what you are saying, difflugia.
Are you sure you weren't accidentally a heretic while you were a Baptist?

Jesus IS Jehovah. So IS the Father. So IS the Holy Spirit.

Considering that he just agreed with what I wrote, you may want to reread what you think he wrote. Or maybe somebody misspoke. I've also noticed that you sometimes mix up "Jehovah" and "the Father" in your head when you're making your arguments. That always works in Witness theology, but doesn't always work in orthodox Trinitarian theology.
It can be shown that Jehovah IS the Father. Orthodox Trinitarian theology is spurious, IMHO.

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