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The Gospel of Jesus vs the Gospel of Jehovah

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Depending on who you "think" the Living God is you have a "Gospel" from Him. And it is a huge problem to many.

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So who is He? Jesus or Jehovah/Yahweh? There can not be 2 Gods. One is a liar. So let us see what Jesus says about "His Gospel". And let us see what Jehovah says about "His Gospel".

A "contest" between the "2 Gods"? Sure. The Living God does not fear it. In fact He Loves it.

Let the Fire Fall! Because the Real God answers in "Fire" and is not scared to be "challenged". In Fact the "challenge belongs to Him. Because the Victory too.

1 Kings 18: 21 And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the Lord be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.*n5
22 Then said Elijah unto the people, I, even I only, remain a prophet of the Lord; but Baal’s prophets are four hundred and fifty men.
23 Let them therefore give us two bullocks; and let them choose one bullock for themselves, and cut it in pieces, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under: and I will dress the other bullock, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under:
24 And call ye on the name of your gods, and I will call on the name of the Lord: and the God that answereth by fire, let him be God. And all the people answered and said, It is well spoken.*n6
25 And Elijah said unto the prophets of Baal, Choose you one bullock for yourselves, and dress it first; for ye are many; and call on the name of your gods, but put no fire under.
26 And they took the bullock which was given them, and they dressed it, and called on the name of Baal from morning even until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us. But there was no voice, nor any that answered. And they leaped upon the altar which was made.*n7*n8*n9
27 And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.*n10*n11*n12
28 And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed out upon them.*n13
29 And it came to pass, when midday was past, and they prophesied until the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice, that there was neither voice, nor any to answer, nor any that regarded.*n14*n15

30 And Elijah said unto all the people, Come near unto me.

So what is the Gospel of Jesus? And what is the Gospel of Jehovah?

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1213 wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 1:46 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Oct 25, 2025 3:35 am There are four books in the Bible that is called the "Synoptic Gospel," the Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
They narrates the life, death and resurrection of Jesus, that is I believe the "Gospel" or "Good News."
A hope of reconciliation to the Father, believing Jesus sacrifice in faith that can led us to eternal life.
Ok, I think the whole books can be called the Gospel also. However, more accurately I think it is the message Jesus declared.
Only the declaration of God and Jesus is the Gospel of the Almighty God. We’ll be in colossal trouble if we consider the whole book as the Gospel of God.

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1213 wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 1:46 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Oct 25, 2025 3:35 am There are four books in the Bible that is called the "Synoptic Gospel," the Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
They narrates the life, death and resurrection of Jesus, that is I believe the "Gospel" or "Good News."
A hope of reconciliation to the Father, believing Jesus sacrifice in faith that can led us to eternal life.
Ok, I think the whole books can be called the Gospel also. However, more accurately I think it is the message Jesus declared.
If you are referring to what Jesus said, about the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms, the Scriptures, that all things were written about Him. That's about the prophecy of the "good news," the Synoptic Gospels was the fulfillment. Same with the "protoevangelium" of Genesis 3:15.

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OneJack wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:59 pm
1213 wrote: Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:46 pm
Johan wrote: Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:54 am [Replying to 1213 in post #2]

Yep, Brother. That is God's Gospel. Or the Gospel of Jehovah. The Real Gospel. So what is the difference between the Gospel of the Living God, Jehovah, and the "Gospel of Jesus"?...
I don't think there is a difference, because Jesus said what God had commanded him to speak.
You’re right, how could there be a difference when the Almighty God and Jesus [not the physical body of the Son born of Mary] is the same because Jesus per se is the name of the Almighty God. The Son of God was the vessel (John 14:10-11) of Jesus in coming in the flesh.
The point is Brother that you agree with the summary I gave concerning the "Gospel of Jesus" as it is given by the denominations and organizations. You agree that they indeed bring the "gospel" as the pic is saying. And you also have nothing against it meaning it is a summary of your "gospel" too.

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OneJack wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 6:06 pm
Johan wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:13 pm
Capbook wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 3:37 am Yes, the picture portrayed Jesus as knocking, and He had to be opened by believing Jesus' sacrifice in faith Brother Johan.
Ok, Brother. After completely accepting the pic as a good summary of the "Gospel of Jesus" which the denominations and organizations spread everywhere you can now Edify us more on what Jesus is actually saving us from?
Did you hear and learn what you pictured as, I would say allegedly, the ‘gospel of Jesus’ from the real and eternally living Christ Jesus?
I asked if you could Edify us on what "Jesus" is actually saving us from, Brother?

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Capbook wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:03 am
Johan wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:13 pm
Capbook wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 3:37 am Yes, the picture portrayed Jesus as knocking, and He had to be opened by believing Jesus' sacrifice in faith Brother Johan.
Ok, Brother. After completely accepting the pic as a good summary of the "Gospel of Jesus" which the denominations and organizations spread everywhere you can now Edify us more on what Jesus is actually saving us from?
If we open our hearts to Jesus by faith, He will saves us from perishing or eternal death the second death.
That is eternal life vs eternal death, destiny to the saved (righteous) and the lost (wicked), our choice matters.
Seems you are saying that the "hell" Jesus is going to enter us in is a "second death", Brother So what is this "hell" Jesus is going to enter everyone into who does not believe in him? What is a "second death" which is so "scary" about the "hell of Jesus" he is threatening us with? To punish us for not believing in him?
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1213 wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 1:46 am
OneJack wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:59 pm You’re right, how could there be a difference when the Almighty God and Jesus [not the physical body of the Son born of Mary] is the same because Jesus per se is the name of the Almighty God. The Son of God was the vessel (John 14:10-11) of Jesus in coming in the flesh.
Sorry, I don't think God and Jesus are the same.

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Johan wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 1:07 pm
1213 wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 1:46 am
OneJack wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:59 pm You’re right, how could there be a difference when the Almighty God and Jesus [not the physical body of the Son born of Mary] is the same because Jesus per se is the name of the Almighty God. The Son of God was the vessel (John 14:10-11) of Jesus in coming in the flesh.
Sorry, I don't think God and Jesus are the same.
I agree with you, Brother. But the point is if there can be a different gospel from them? And if the gospel in the pic is the "Gospel of Jesus" then what is the "Gospel of Jehovah"? Because most think it is the same?

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1213 wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 1:46 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Oct 25, 2025 3:35 am There are four books in the Bible that is called the "Synoptic Gospel," the Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
They narrates the life, death and resurrection of Jesus, that is I believe the "Gospel" or "Good News."
A hope of reconciliation to the Father, believing Jesus sacrifice in faith that can led us to eternal life.
Ok, I think the whole books can be called the Gospel also. However, more accurately I think it is the message Jesus declared.
I totally agree. And it is a very "scary" message of a very scary "hell" he is threatening all who is not working hard for him as his slaves on this planet. To build his churches of worship and pay his prophets for bringing us "his scary" Gospel of his "hell" waiting for all who do not become his slave.

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OneJack wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 2:08 am
1213 wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 1:46 am
OneJack wrote: Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:59 pm You’re right, how could there be a difference when the Almighty God and Jesus [not the physical body of the Son born of Mary] is the same because Jesus per se is the name of the Almighty God. The Son of God was the vessel (John 14:10-11) of Jesus in coming in the flesh.
Sorry, I don't think God and Jesus are the same.
Why? Have you heard anything from Jesus about Himself? Or if you haven’t yet, have you heard anything from the Father about Himself?
Well according to His "Gospel" he has prepared a very "scary hell" for all who declines from being his slave on earth. Where we have to work hard to build his "expensive brick buildings" where He enjoys being worshiped by all his slaves. And where all are studying "his bible" to know about him as much as possible. And of course his prophets wants their wealth in money for proclaiming his threat of his hell if we don't obey pronto. Where we are their slaves too of course.

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OneJack wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 2:11 am
1213 wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 1:46 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Oct 25, 2025 3:35 am There are four books in the Bible that is called the "Synoptic Gospel," the Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
They narrates the life, death and resurrection of Jesus, that is I believe the "Gospel" or "Good News."
A hope of reconciliation to the Father, believing Jesus sacrifice in faith that can led us to eternal life.
Ok, I think the whole books can be called the Gospel also. However, more accurately I think it is the message Jesus declared.
Only the declaration of God and Jesus is the Gospel of the Almighty God. We’ll be in colossal trouble if we consider the whole book as the Gospel of God.
The point is the the "Gospel of Jesus" which all agree is nicely summarized in my pic I gave is a very scary "gospel" where Jesus is waiting in heaven with "His Hell" of punishment for all who did not work hard for him on earth as His slaves. Where they had to build his big expensive brick churches because of his desire to be worshiped. And where they have to pay his prophets lots of money for their work to build "Jesus" his churches where his need to be worshiped can be satisfied. And if it is not done well then of course the threat of hell is there to motivate all to do it.

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