What did Jesus create?

[snowbound]

It's my belief as well as the belief of many others that Jesus only created this 'earth' and this earth only. It's possible that he didn't even create this entire solar system, but God the Father did. God allowed Jesus to 'design' this planet and this planet only. I'm convinced that when we look up and see the trillions of 'suns' many of them have or likely have had inhabited 'earths' - and likely with humans on them. Possibly some of them have humans larger than us. Possible and in my view, likely the same.

No doubt God is still in the creation business. When this 'earth' reaches its end, God will create more 'earths' and my guess is they likely all FELL and needed a Savior. That Savior would likely be another fully human being like our Jesus was.

In my view it's illogical to believe we are the only human creation among trillions of stars AND trillions of galaxies.

https://www.thoughtco.com/galaxy-types- ... on-3072058

[snowbound]

[Replying to Capbook in post #54]

Just tired of forums and the diabolical Trinity doctrine.

[Capbook]

[Replying to Capbook in post #54]

Just tired of forums and the diabolical Trinity doctrine.

If you believe your beliefs are the truth you should defend it snowbound.
However, it seems to appear that you find it difficult to harmonize your beliefs to the Bible verses.

[Capbook]

[Replying to OneJack in post #56]

@OneJack, my faith is based squarely on the Bible as God's inspired Word.

Well, you're the master of your soul; hope you'd be with the Lord when He returns and put everything in its proper order. My faith is based solely on the real and forever living Christ Jesus, who is beside all of us in a 24/7 watch mode for those who come to Him for their salvation and eternal life, though He is unseen yet.

Solely to your Jesus?
How about John 14:10,11 OneJack, your core belief is written in the Bible?

Put your faith only in the Lord, not in the bible.

As the Bible contain John 14:10,11, do that mean you don't believe what it said OneJack?

[OneJack]

[Replying to OneJack in post #56]

@OneJack, my faith is based squarely on the Bible as God's inspired Word.

Well, you're the master of your soul; hope you'd be with the Lord when He returns and put everything in its proper order. My faith is based solely on the real and forever living Christ Jesus, who is beside all of us in a 24/7 watch mode for those who come to Him for their salvation and eternal life, though He is unseen yet.

Solely to your Jesus?
How about John 14:10,11 OneJack, your core belief is written in the Bible?

Put your faith only in the Lord, not in the bible.

As the Bible contain John 14:10,11, do that mean you don't believe what it said OneJack?

What the verses say is what I believe, Capbook.

[Capbook]

Well, you're the master of your soul; hope you'd be with the Lord when He returns and put everything in its proper order. My faith is based solely on the real and forever living Christ Jesus, who is beside all of us in a 24/7 watch mode for those who come to Him for their salvation and eternal life, though He is unseen yet.

Solely to your Jesus?
How about John 14:10,11 OneJack, your core belief is written in the Bible?

Put your faith only in the Lord, not in the bible.

As the Bible contain John 14:10,11, do that mean you don't believe what it said OneJack?

What the verses say is what I believe, Capbook.

You now contradicted your "only in the Lord" OneJack, as John 14:10,11 is written in the Bible you negate.

[OneJack]

Solely to your Jesus?
How about John 14:10,11 OneJack, your core belief is written in the Bible?

Put your faith only in the Lord, not in the bible.

As the Bible contain John 14:10,11, do that mean you don't believe what it said OneJack?

What the verses say is what I believe, Capbook.

You now contradicted your "only in the Lord" OneJack, as John 14:10,11 is written in the Bible you negate.

I believe them to be true because of the Lord's confirmation that they are His genuine utterance, hence, my only belief in the Lord, Capbook?

[Capbook]

Put your faith only in the Lord, not in the bible.

As the Bible contain John 14:10,11, do that mean you don't believe what it said OneJack?

What the verses say is what I believe, Capbook.

You now contradicted your "only in the Lord" OneJack, as John 14:10,11 is written in the Bible you negate.

I believe them to be true because of the Lord's confirmation that they are His genuine utterance, hence, my only belief in the Lord, Capbook?

So, your Lord confirm that written Bible verses are believable.
Do your Lord also confirm that some God breathed verses are not believable OneJack?

[OneJack]

As the Bible contain John 14:10,11, do that mean you don't believe what it said OneJack?

What the verses say is what I believe, Capbook.

You now contradicted your "only in the Lord" OneJack, as John 14:10,11 is written in the Bible you negate.

I believe them to be true because of the Lord's confirmation that they are His genuine utterance, hence, my only belief in the Lord, Capbook?

So, your Lord confirm that written Bible verses are believable.
Do your Lord also confirm that some God breathed verses are not believable OneJack?

Read well, Capbook!

[Capbook]

What the verses say is what I believe, Capbook.

You now contradicted your "only in the Lord" OneJack, as John 14:10,11 is written in the Bible you negate.

I believe them to be true because of the Lord's confirmation that they are His genuine utterance, hence, my only belief in the Lord, Capbook?

So, your Lord confirm that written Bible verses are believable.
Do your Lord also confirm that some God breathed verses are not believable OneJack?

Read well, Capbook!

What I mean is, to those God breathed verses whom you disregard, do your Lord also disregard those God breathed verses?
Like Matthew 4:1-10 OneJack?

Mat 4:1  Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 
Mat 4:2  And after He had fasted forty days and forty nights, He then became hungry. 
Mat 4:3  And the tempter came and said to Him, "If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread." 
Mat 4:4  But He answered and said, "It is written, 'MAN SHALL NOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE, BUT ON EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD.'" 
Mat 4:5  Then the devil *took Him into the holy city and had Him stand on the pinnacle of the temple, 
Mat 4:6  and *said to Him, "If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down; for it is written, 'HE WILL COMMAND HIS ANGELS CONCERNING YOU'; and 'ON their HANDS THEY WILL BEAR YOU UP, SO THAT YOU WILL NOT STRIKE YOUR FOOT AGAINST A STONE.'" 
Mat 4:7  Jesus said to him, "On the other hand, it is written, 'YOU SHALL NOT PUT THE LORD YOUR GOD TO THE TEST.'" 
Mat 4:8  Again, the devil *took Him to a very high mountain and *showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory; 
Mat 4:9  and he said to Him, "All these things I will give You, if You fall down and worship me." 
Mat 4:10  Then Jesus *said to him, "Go, Satan! For it is written, 'YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD, AND SERVE HIM ONLY.'" 

[myth-one.com]

[Replying to Capbook in post #69]

The Word (God) created everything -- not Jesus!

Jesus is not the "Word"!

Jesus was the "Word made flesh." Which was a man.

Jesus took no part in the creation of the heavens and the earth!

It could be said that Jesus "created" a pathway into everlasting life for mankind.

But He created nothing physical.