Was Hitler a pro-choice (i.e. Hitler's choice) Darwinist ?

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Was Hitler a pro-choice (i.e. Hitler's choice) Darwinist ?

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One can be Darwinist and not be Hitlerian, one can be pro-choice but not the Dictator. But pro-choiceism has resulted in at least a 6 times greater holocaust and 7 times longer in the USA. So far

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Noachian wrote:
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Noachian wrote:Hitler, like many who believe they are the ones to push humanity foreward, was a darwinist/evolutionist. Believing himself to be the 'driver'/catylist of evolution. He was raised a Catholic but retained no Catholic or Christian beliefs into his adult life as a result of bad experience and due to his over-whelming belief in himself to be more important than any monotheistic Judeo-Christian characters.
Please show any quote by Hitler dealing with the TOE, 'Darwinism' or anything like that.

I can show plenty of quotes about Hitler and his attitude of HIS destiny in religion.
I have to shw you Hitler directly saying he was a 'Darwinist'? A narrow challange. I certainly know he used the concept of Christianity to manipulate his hatred for the Jews, but his idealologies were far from Christian and if you have any DECENT knowlage of Scriptures will know that Hitler was clearly manipulating Christ to fit his ideals, as many have.

"It points me to the man [Christ] who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were."

Hitler was no Christian...a man prehaps claiming to be Christian, using Christianity as weapon and a tool for power.....? But Christian means 'Resembling Christ', he most certainly of all people didn't. Hitler used Christianity to distract and even manipulate people from/to his evil Regime, what better way to make your reigeme justifiable than to say God wills it, a clear manipulation of what is suppose to be a pacifistic Religion. Hitler did not worship God, he worshipped himself! he replaced all Christian denominations with one single form of 'Christianity' The Church of the Reich! Bibles were banned, replaced with Mein Kanf , Crucifixes; banned and replaced with German styled Swords. I state again, Hitler; like many before him was not Christian. Hitler was a Religious maniac for his own Religion.

Hitler is well known for his views on wanting to push along what he felt nature was doing to slowly, and that is Natural Selection. He wanted Nazi Selection. To deny it would be uneducated.
ah ha.. the good old "No true Scottman' arguement. I didn't say he was a GOOD Christian. But, in Mein Kampt , he referered to himself as a CHristian, doing the bidding of God. I don't believe he was properly following the message, but he claimed he was.
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goat wrote:
Noachian wrote:
goat wrote:
Noachian wrote:Hitler, like many who believe they are the ones to push humanity foreward, was a darwinist/evolutionist. Believing himself to be the 'driver'/catylist of evolution. He was raised a Catholic but retained no Catholic or Christian beliefs into his adult life as a result of bad experience and due to his over-whelming belief in himself to be more important than any monotheistic Judeo-Christian characters.
Please show any quote by Hitler dealing with the TOE, 'Darwinism' or anything like that.

I can show plenty of quotes about Hitler and his attitude of HIS destiny in religion.
I have to shw you Hitler directly saying he was a 'Darwinist'? A narrow challange. I certainly know he used the concept of Christianity to manipulate his hatred for the Jews, but his idealologies were far from Christian and if you have any DECENT knowlage of Scriptures will know that Hitler was clearly manipulating Christ to fit his ideals, as many have.

"It points me to the man [Christ] who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were."

Hitler was no Christian...a man prehaps claiming to be Christian, using Christianity as weapon and a tool for power.....? But Christian means 'Resembling Christ', he most certainly of all people didn't. Hitler used Christianity to distract and even manipulate people from/to his evil Regime, what better way to make your reigeme justifiable than to say God wills it, a clear manipulation of what is suppose to be a pacifistic Religion. Hitler did not worship God, he worshipped himself! he replaced all Christian denominations with one single form of 'Christianity' The Church of the Reich! Bibles were banned, replaced with Mein Kanf , Crucifixes; banned and replaced with German styled Swords. I state again, Hitler; like many before him was not Christian. Hitler was a Religious maniac for his own Religion.

Hitler is well known for his views on wanting to push along what he felt nature was doing to slowly, and that is Natural Selection. He wanted Nazi Selection. To deny it would be uneducated.
ah ha.. the good old "No true Scottman' arguement. I didn't say he was a GOOD Christian. But, in Mein Kampt , he referered to himself as a CHristian, doing the bidding of God. I don't believe he was properly following the message, but he claimed he was.
So he was Christian on paper and by his own standards, but as far as Scripture is concerned, he is not Chrsitian at all.

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Noachian wrote:
goat wrote:
Noachian wrote:
goat wrote:
Noachian wrote:Hitler, like many who believe they are the ones to push humanity foreward, was a darwinist/evolutionist. Believing himself to be the 'driver'/catylist of evolution. He was raised a Catholic but retained no Catholic or Christian beliefs into his adult life as a result of bad experience and due to his over-whelming belief in himself to be more important than any monotheistic Judeo-Christian characters.
Please show any quote by Hitler dealing with the TOE, 'Darwinism' or anything like that.

I can show plenty of quotes about Hitler and his attitude of HIS destiny in religion.
I have to shw you Hitler directly saying he was a 'Darwinist'? A narrow challange. I certainly know he used the concept of Christianity to manipulate his hatred for the Jews, but his idealologies were far from Christian and if you have any DECENT knowlage of Scriptures will know that Hitler was clearly manipulating Christ to fit his ideals, as many have.

"It points me to the man [Christ] who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were."

Hitler was no Christian...a man prehaps claiming to be Christian, using Christianity as weapon and a tool for power.....? But Christian means 'Resembling Christ', he most certainly of all people didn't. Hitler used Christianity to distract and even manipulate people from/to his evil Regime, what better way to make your reigeme justifiable than to say God wills it, a clear manipulation of what is suppose to be a pacifistic Religion. Hitler did not worship God, he worshipped himself! he replaced all Christian denominations with one single form of 'Christianity' The Church of the Reich! Bibles were banned, replaced with Mein Kanf , Crucifixes; banned and replaced with German styled Swords. I state again, Hitler; like many before him was not Christian. Hitler was a Religious maniac for his own Religion.

Hitler is well known for his views on wanting to push along what he felt nature was doing to slowly, and that is Natural Selection. He wanted Nazi Selection. To deny it would be uneducated.
ah ha.. the good old "No true Scottman' arguement. I didn't say he was a GOOD Christian. But, in Mein Kampt , he referered to himself as a CHristian, doing the bidding of God. I don't believe he was properly following the message, but he claimed he was.
So he was Christian on paper and by his own standards, but as far as Scripture is concerned, he is not Chrsitian at all.
Depends on what line you use. "Bring me my enemies before me and slay them" is one he whole heartily followed.


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Noachian wrote: I have to shw you Hitler directly saying he was a 'Darwinist'? A narrow challange. I certainly know he used the concept of Christianity to manipulate his hatred for the Jews, but his idealologies were far from Christian and if you have any DECENT knowlage of Scriptures will know that Hitler was clearly manipulating Christ to fit his ideals, as many have.
In the same way, if Hitler did actually base his beliefs or actions on Darwinism, it was only to manipulate Darwinism for his own political ends. Part of this manipulation requires mischaracterizing Darwinism so badly that what is actually referred to as evolution bears no resemblance to the actual scientific theory.

The actual scientific theory makes no assertions about "superiority of race", and in fact, debunks most if not all racial superiority theories.
" . . . the line separating good and evil passes, not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either, but right through every human heart . . . ." Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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