This summer it seems we are in a war between two races. Donald Trump would add another race (to the south of our border). If God is so loving and compassionate why is there so much disparity between blacks and whites? (Let the Hispanics out of it for now.) Is this violent clashing of the races for "His" entertainment? Is He playing us?
I dont think so because a wonderfully loving Creator wouldnt have mankind at each others throats " so, there is the answer: This god that everyone talks about just does not exist!
Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
WHY DID GOD MAKE THE VARIOUS RACES?
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Re: WHY DID GOD MAKE THE VARIOUS RACES?
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Well I can only speak for myself and my religion - there are no violent clashes between the races amongst us, and we are probably one of the most racially diverse religions there is. Rather we Jehovah's Witnesses view each other (regardless of colour or race or language) as brothers and sisters.
My view is that JWs Witnesses prove that such violent racial conflics are not inevitable and I personally believe we are living the way God intended the human family to live, appreciating the beautiful variety in our physical features across races without seeing the differences as something to divide.
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Well I can only speak for myself and my religion - there are no violent clashes between the races amongst us, and we are probably one of the most racially diverse religions there is. Rather we Jehovah's Witnesses view each other (regardless of colour or race or language) as brothers and sisters.
My view is that JWs Witnesses prove that such violent racial conflics are not inevitable and I personally believe we are living the way God intended the human family to live, appreciating the beautiful variety in our physical features across races without seeing the differences as something to divide.
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Re: WHY DID GOD MAKE THE VARIOUS RACES?
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Then why didn't you check #3 in the POLL? Your JW denomination would have passed what appears to be a test by "God."
In light of what is happening in America, a lot of Christian and other religious people are failing the test miserably. You can't deny that racial bigotry is alive and well in this nation (and probably across the world).
Then why didn't you check #3 in the POLL? Your JW denomination would have passed what appears to be a test by "God."
In light of what is happening in America, a lot of Christian and other religious people are failing the test miserably. You can't deny that racial bigotry is alive and well in this nation (and probably across the world).
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Adonai did not create race, man did. It is a social construct designed to divide people by biological characteristics for various social purposes. I am not aware of any such construct in HaTorah. The divisions of humanity are based on belief systems and behaviors, not biological characteristics.
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Re: WHY DID GOD MAKE THE VARIOUS RACES?
Post #5Not at all. Jesus said "by their fruits you shall know them" in other words, people prove they are "real christians" not by the name by they adopt but by the evidence of their actions. Love should be an identifying mark of Christians, in other words people should be able to point to a group and say "Look at how well they are living".2Dbunk wrote: [Replying to post 2 by JehovahsWitness]
Your JW denomination would have passed what appears to be a test by "God."
In light of what is happening in America, a lot of Christian and other religious people are failing the test miserably. You can't deny that racial bigotry is alive and well in this nation (and probably across the world).
If religions are being divided along any grounds including racial and if their members can be found rioting or fighting for any reason then they are not obeying Jesus. What conclusion should people come to as to the quality of their religion? Some people call us arrogant for pointing out simple facts that Jehovah's Witnesses are globally united in a way found in no other religion on earth, I don't believe point out a fact as arrogant, just truthful. (see John 13:35).
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Is this meant to be an inflammatory OP?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham
I don't see any way you can say anything about it, without its being gruesome.
As an aside, a flood probably wouldn't kill most folks if they had a boat, themselves. Yeah, maybe animals wouldn't survive, but there were plenty of boats, fishermen, etc...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham
I don't see any way you can say anything about it, without its being gruesome.
As an aside, a flood probably wouldn't kill most folks if they had a boat, themselves. Yeah, maybe animals wouldn't survive, but there were plenty of boats, fishermen, etc...
I will never understand how someone who claims to know the ultimate truth, of God, believes they deserve respect, when they cannot distinguish it from a fairy-tale.
You know, science and logic are hard: Religion and fairy tales might be more your speed.
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You know, science and logic are hard: Religion and fairy tales might be more your speed.
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So, Man has such supernatural powers that he created the epicanthic fold that primarily defines Asians, and genetically engineered melatonin levels to createbluethread wrote: Adonai did not create race, man did. It is a social construct designed to divide people by biological characteristics for various social purposes. I am not aware of any such construct in HaTorah. The divisions of humanity are based on belief systems and behaviors, not biological characteristics.
Blacks - and we did this all hundreds of thousands of years ago? Cool!
Can you provide any evidence for this bizarre claim? Race is much more than a social construct. The social construct was clearly a result of the biological characteristics - which were created by who or what? Your God, evolution, or will you really assert that primitive man did it all by his lonesome?
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Re: WHY DID GOD MAKE THE VARIOUS RACES?
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That humans exist with different appearances and characteristics is no indication that gods were involved AND the differences should not be grounds for discrimination.
There is no verifiable evidence to indicate that any gods created anything " including humans.2Dbunk wrote: Why did God make the various races?
That humans exist with different appearances and characteristics is no indication that gods were involved AND the differences should not be grounds for discrimination.
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Re: WHY DID GOD MAKE THE VARIOUS RACES?
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Would a viable answer be, "I don't know the mind of God, but trust He knows what he is doing"...?
Would a viable answer be, "I don't know the mind of God, but trust He knows what he is doing"...?
Re: WHY DID GOD MAKE THE VARIOUS RACES?
Post #10I am reminded of Luke 18.11 " The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican."JehovahsWitness wrote:
Well I can only speak for myself and my religion - there are no violent clashes between the races amongst us, and we are probably one of the most racially diverse religions there is. Rather we Jehovah's Witnesses view each other (regardless of colour or race or language) as brothers and sisters.
To be fair if the world became uniformly Jehovah's Witnesses, I suppose lots of bickering would go, but then, people being what they are, the big-enders would fight with the small-enders. When we belong to a small group it is nice to view the rest of the world as ugly and unchosen. It was ever so.
