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Replying to post 9 by Jagella]
You are merely posting an assertion that atheists debating Christians is counter productive for atheists.
The assertion the OPBlurb is making is that the idea that atheists have is that they are 'fighting the good fight' is false, as the evidence clearly points to. Address that Jagella.
Even that the fact of the matter is that this war has been raging for hundreds of years with no victors in sight, tends toward evidence of the futility of the habitual dynamic.
Then what are you doing in an online forum debating religion if doing so is futile?
My method is simple enough to understand. I identify what are nonnegotiable faith-based beliefs and avoid wasting my time 'debating' with those who hold them.
This does not mean that I think any less of them, or believe that I have to be an atheist and renounce all belief that GODs exist. I see the Abrahmic idea of GOD as part of my overall understanding of 'what is GOD' as I mentioned in a recent post which the reader can access
here.
In relation to
this thread, and others similar to this which I have created on this message board, my focus is on that.
I now turn my attention onto identifying nonnegotiable beliefs which atheists may hold, which I can and will continue to use on the message board as long as I am able to.
I also acknowledge that we are all here to proselytize our particular positions. Mine is theist in nature, but not based in faith, and is also negotiable.
So while I definitely disagree with the conclusion Christians have reached regarding their NNFBBs, I am not against them in the same way that atheists are against them, and indeed against all theists, because I do not hold the belief that GODs
do not exist, even in relation to YHWH.
This has - in the past - annoyed atheists on this board, even to the point where they found it 'necessary' to make claims that I am a 'Christian'
because I don't battle against Christian beliefs.
See
here and
here for evidence re that.
Due to the overall structure of THIS message board, I have opportunity to proselytize my particular opinions without incurring any penalty for doing so.
I am not 'fighting the good fight' or fighting any fight really. I am more into encouraging folk to seek to find common ground and look at the bigger picture.
Which is why I created the sub-forum
Around The Camp Fire and invited any like-minded souls to participate.
In any case, we atheists have made tremendous strides against theism. Religion is on the decline in America, Europe, and Australia. We have also won science--our crowning achievement. If current trends continue, some day religion will play only a very minor role in the developed world.
"Some day" eh?

I acknowledge your faith-based belief about this. At the same time I wonder how you will think when the sun becomes so hot that it makes life for the majority of humans unbearable, and how you will then feel about your 'atheist based science' which contributed the bulk of invention which enabled the catastrophe to occur and whether you will still be praising it at that point, or kicking yourself for wasting so much time in 'fighting the good fight' which might have been better spent on fighting the actual problems of the world.
As the reader can see, I am not at all convinced that your argument is at all relative to the thread topic.
Maybe those 'Atheists' who 'welcome an audience to read all their debates' are really Christians pretending to be atheist to help that process along?
Such speculation carries little weight.
Maybe not, but what weight it does carry can indeed plant a seed of cautious doubt in the attentive reader. The point I was making is relevant to the thread topic and good enough argument against your own speculation that atheists are 'fighting the good fight' by 'debating' with theist who hold
nonnegotiable faith-based beliefs.
If you're right, then Christians should welcome our criticisms.
They do.
They also see it as a direct evidence that they are on the right track because the 'devil is roaring at them like a lion' and 'attacking them as their LORD said would occur'! It is called 'persecution'.
Atheists attend faithfully to that role the Abrahamites expect of them.
Oh really? Then that explains why I was banned from Christian forums: I didn't criticize Christianity enough!
Not at all. You are merely presenting a hearsay. Show the reader your
evidence that you were 'banned' on account of being either critical or not critical enough. Chances are good that it was for some other reason, but you just decided to see it differently.
But whatever the reasons might be, one cannot simply take your word for it.
Give us the links and we shall see the evidence for ourselves. Otherwise, your
argument can be disregarded as hearsay, and irrelevant to the thread topic for that.
In summary, I should point out that your post makes baseless assertions
Yes you should. But you haven't yet even attempted to do this 'pointing out'.
your own activity here belies your claim that the atheist/theist debate is futile.
My claim is that the dynamic atheist/theist 'debate' has nothing to do with the claim that such activity is 'fighting the good fight' and that there is no 'debating' that can happen in relation to nonnegotiable faith-based belief systems.
Address that, if you can.