'Last Days' bible prophesy's

[William]

There is an ever increasing awareness of scientific data pointing to the conclusion that humanity is causing the planet to warm up due to the manner in which we have been and still are living and consuming resources on the planet.

While there is still a lot of debate about whether or not it is actually happening, and to what extent the damage will be if it is indeed happening, I am wondering if those who claim it is not happening are doing so because it is against their Christian beliefs as to how the world will end, and thus - Christians being the greater percentage of the western worlds population, this denial is why there is not far more effort placed in doing something about the problem.

Q: Does the bible mention anything to do with the planets climate heating up as part of its last days prophesies?

Q: If not, then is the likeliest reason for many people - largely the Christian population - not believing in the climate change that many scientists are warning us about, the result of that?

[JehovahsWitness]

Q: Does the bible mention anything to do with the planets climate heating up as part of its last days prophesies?

The expression global warming is not in the bible but Revelation does speak about God judging {quote} "those who destroy the earth" (NIV) . The New World Translation says God will...

REVELATION 11:18
" ...to bring to ruin those ruining* the earth"

* Ftn: *Or to destroy those who are destroying."

Arguably this passage applies to this modern age as only in the 20th/21st century has man had the technology to actually destroy or ruin the planet earth and this due to various phenomenon including pollution of the environment, global warming, nuclear accident, atomic bombs to mention just a few.




JEHOVAH'S WITNESS



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[Divine Insight]

Q: Does the bible mention anything to do with the planets climate heating up as part of its last days prophesies?

Q: If not, then is the likeliest reason for many people - largely the Christian population - not believing in the climate change that many scientists are warning us about, the result of that?

The Bible prophesies that the Battle of Armageddon will be the cause of the end of the world. Why bother focusing on anything else?

As far as a Christian is concerned, even if climate change is real, it won't be the cause of the demise of humanity. So why bother with something that has nothing to do with the theology they are dedicated to believe?

If the Bible says that the Battle of Armageddon will be the cause of our demise, then that's what a Christian theist must believe. To believe anything else would be a rejection of their own theology.

[Mithrae]

Q: If not, then is the likeliest reason for many people - largely the Christian population - not believing in the climate change that many scientists are warning us about, the result of that?

No; a) it's much more obviously a political divide in opinions than anything along religious lines, and b) one could try to spin it as being a 'cause' of Christian opinions regardless of whether the bible said anything about climate change. If it said nothing about it, then "Christians must not believe in it" (which is wildly illogical); if it did speak about a warming world, then "Christians want it to happen so Jesus comes" (which is not much better).

Q: Does the bible mention anything to do with the planets climate heating up as part of its last days prophesies?

Not really, as far as I know, but 2 Peter 3:17 and Revelation 16:8-9 spring to mind as vague similarities.

[dio9]

[Replying to William]

it is surprising so many modern day Christians don't accept scientific evidence that the climate is changing and could lead to a last days disaster if we people don't address the problem of global warming.

[ttruscott]

Christians being the greater percentage of the western worlds population, this denial is why there is not far more effort placed in doing something about the problem.

With the greatest polluters by far being in the mid- and far East and non-Christian I do not see the relevance of this supposition.

The end the world is to be by fire...how does that contradict the warming trend?

[Mithrae]

With the greatest polluters by far being in the mid- and far East and non-Christian I do not see the relevance of this supposition.

You seem to be misinformed. The only country western or otherwise which exceeds the United States for annual emissions is China; partly due to its huge population and, in fairness, a lot of that from industries providing goods for consumers in the Western world.

https://www.wri.org/blog/2014/11/6-grap ... 0-emitters

[ttruscott]

With the greatest polluters by far being in the mid- and far East and non-Christian I do not see the relevance of this supposition.

You seem to be misinformed.

Thanks,

India 4th highest emitter of CO2: Study
PTI New Delhi | Updated on December 06, 2018 Published on December 06, 2018

India is the fourth highest emitter of carbon dioxide. File Photo - Reuters

India is the fourth highest emitter of carbon dioxide in the world, accounting for 7 per cent of global emissions in 2017, a study said on Wednesday.

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/ne ... 677626.ece suggests that the US and the EU make up 25 % of the total while China, India and the rest of the world make up 74 %... not a strict splitting of countries by religion but enough to shake the op's premise.

Plastics:
Top 20 Countries Ranked by Mass of Mismanaged Plastic Waste
The billions upon billions of items of plastic waste choking our oceans, lakes, and rivers and piling up on land is more than unsightly and harmful to plants and wildlife.

https://160g7a3snajg2i1r662yjd5r-wpengi ... 6_1145.png suggests the first mention of a Christian country is Brazil at 16th in the list of offenders.

[William]

Some interesting replies.

Global Warning is foretold in the bible, albeit in a round about way because it says;

1: "God will bring about the ruin of those ruining the planet, destroying those who are destroying the planet"
2: "The lawless will fall from their secure position"
3: "The fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and the sun was allowed to scorch people with fire."
4: "The end the world is to be by fire"

1: REVELATION 11:18
The nations were angry,
and your wrath has come.
The time has come for judging the dead,
and for rewarding your servants the prophets
and your people who revere your name,
both great and small"
and for destroying those who destroy the earth.

While the idea of any mighty and able entity bringing justice to the world is an understandable thing for people to place their faith in hope of, clearly this does not show in any sure way that the bible foretold the end of the world through climate change...unless the entity being described in the above quote was The Earth Herself...but what Christian would claim that?
Besides which, the verse clearly can be wrapped around any type of natural event where destruction through natural causes is the consequence....so not a prophesy specific to the OP blurb re climate change.

2: 2 Peter 3:17

Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position.

I am unable to identify the above quote as a biblical prophetic warning of climate change.

3: Revelation 16:8-9
8 The fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and the sun was allowed to scorch people with fire. 9 They were seared by the intense heat and they cursed the name of God, who had control over these plagues, but they refused to repent and glorify him.

While this could be construed as a prophetic warning of climate change, it does not specify how the changes actually occur...apparently whomever wrote this imagined that some fuel had to be 'poured onto the sun' in order for the Sun to get hot enough to scorch the Earth, which is not how the scientific community are telling us how the sun works.

Also to note, the sun literally is FIRE and will scorch anyone who stays out too long under it, which arguably, anyone who does so are the one's 'allowing' the sun to do that to them.

Obviously too, the writer appears to get inspiration from the old Egypt story where the GOD had a set of plagues (talk about plagarizing!) which were used consecutively, even that these only caused the humans to be angry rather than repentant. A quick look reveals that - yes - there is a 5th angel dishing out more doom upon humanity after the 'scorching earth by angelically making the sun hotter' plague has happened...I am not sure how this qualifies as actual biblical prophesy about climate change which scientists are saying could be the extinction of humankind.

For one thing, the biblical script makes it obvious that agents of the GOD (Angels) are the cause of the calamity, whereas we are informed by scientists that climate change is due to actual human activity.

4: "The end the world is to be by fire..."

Since there is no mention of any biblical script to verify the above #4 claim, for now it can be placed in the 'irreverent argument' basket.

All in all, apart from some straw-clutching, the arguments for there being any actual prophetic utterances in the bible to do with climate change are so far not very convincing.

[William]

[Replying to post 5 by dio9]

it is surprising so many modern day Christians don't accept scientific evidence that the climate is changing and could lead to a last days disaster if we people don't address the problem of global warming.

On the contrary. The purpose of this thread is to explore any major reason as to WHY Christians are unconcerned. The reason is most likely because the bible does not really mention climate change specifically and therefore there is no need to believe what scientists are telling them. Scientists would most likely be considered evil lying demon influenced persons in this regard, as is the want for Christianity to demonize anything which is contrary to its own claims.