Love your enemies

[Blastcat]

I'm looking for Bible verses that support "love thy enemies" and "Kill whoever God doesn't like today."

In the Bible, I think it was in Matthew 5:44 where it says that we should love our enemies, and in the OLD testament, there are very many passages where people kill people on the command of God.

I think there are about a dozen of those direct commandments...

So, the questions for debate is:


"Are Christians being instructed to not hate their enemies, but to hate to the point of killing whoever God considers to be an enemy?"

P.S.

I owe the idea of Christians having to hate God's enemies from Divine Insight in Post 107: Question for Atheists/Naturalist

[Blastcat]

[Replying to post 30 by Peds nurse]




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Whose question are you answering?
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I do not believe that God would ask me to kill someone.

And that wasn't the question.

I do believe that God told Moses to form an army and to go to war with various people...wiping out entire populations. I believe He did this to protect His people.

That wasn't the question either.

[Peds nurse]

[Replying to post 31 by Blastcat]

I feel as though we are on separate islands BC. I have no idea to what you are referring...but maybe BW can shed some light on the situation! I don't want to exasperate you!

[onewithhim]

The OT is merely background of human relationship with God and testimony for the coming of the Messiah. The NT is authoritative for those who follow Christ.

I know that some conflate the two and pick and choose between them, but that obviously misses the point.

Those who follow Christ should be killing "God's enemies" as per God's Laws in the OT".

What specific OT law(s) are you referring to?

Deuteronomy Chapter 17. Part of the jots and tittles of the prophets of old that Christ proclaimed shall not pass from law until heaven and earth pass. Deuteronomy is considered to be part of the "Mosaic Laws of the Jewish Torah". Christ was a Jew and supported the Mosaic Laws.

This would include all of the laws found in Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.

You were asked what specific laws in the Mosaic Law commanded the Jews to hate their enemies? Can you point them out? As I said, I can't find any.

No, bjs asked divine insight what specific laws about killing God's enemies divine insight was referring to. You may have asked DI what specific laws commanded the jews to hate their enemies, but that isnt in the quote nest in your post that I quoted in this post.

Oh I guess I had a brain fart. Getting old isn't fun.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to post 9 by Blastcat]

Hey BC!!

When God stated for the Israelites to wipe out entire populations, what was the cause? Weren't those people sacrificing their children to fire, and doing other things that were detestable? God never said to kill your enemies just because they are enemies, only when those enemies threatened the security and safety of His children.

Good point, and I agree.

Usually a town was warned ahead of time that they were to submit to Israel's God or suffer the consequences. The blood spilt would be on the pagan town's heads. I know in my heart that Jehovah will bring back to life any innocent people that were dispatched. Like the children. I am more than willing to help take care of them when they are resurrected.

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[onewithhim]

[Replying to post 29 by Blastcat]

I do not believe that God would ask me to kill someone. I do believe that God told Moses to form an army and to go to war with various people...wiping out entire populations. I believe He did this to protect His people.

Yes, and He doesn't tell anyone TODAY to kill. All wars now are totally man-made. No military commander now gets instructions from God, like Moses and Joshua did.

Protecting ourselves, our homes and our own families today is provided for in laws of the land. That is something way different than participating in the wars of any nation.

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[Blastcat]

[Replying to post 32 by Peds nurse]




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I feel as though we are on separate islands BC. I have no idea to what you are referring...but maybe BW can shed some light on the situation! I don't want to exasperate you!

I'm doing ok, Peds, thanks for the concern.

I'm referring to the questions I asked you way back in Post 27 :

"They were enemies of God?
But if they weren't God believers, how were those kids "His children", Peds? '

And while you are at it... there's a question that nobody seems to answer that I'd love a theist give a go at:

It's BW's question to you from Post 26:

"Would you kill someone if God asked it? Would you even believe it was God asking? "

I hope that we can get back on the same page... cheers.

[onewithhim]

I would give a go at it.

No, I wouldn't believe that it was God who was asking me to kill. He doesn't talk to people directly today, as he did Moses and Joshua and others that were leading Israel. I would say he stopped speaking directly to humans from the time his Son went back to heaven c.33 A.D. Then he left the communication to what we read in the Bible.

"God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world." (Heb.1:1,2, NASB)


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[Blastcat]

[Replying to post 35 by onewithhim]



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Commander in chief listened to what God had to say
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Yes, and He doesn't tell anyone TODAY to kill. All wars now are totally man-made. No military commander now gets instructions from God, like Moses and Joshua did.

Some people may disagree.

"President Bush said to all of us: I am driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan. And I did. And then God would tell me George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq. And I did.

Mr. Bush went on: And now, again, I feel Gods words coming to me, Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East. And, by God, Im gonna do it.

http://aattp.org/flashback-that-time-ge ... tack-iraq/

[Blastcat]

[Replying to post 37 by onewithhim]

No, I wouldn't believe that it was God who was asking me to kill.

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  What would you tell people who thought they were talking to God directly, or had some kind of vision or revelation direct from God?
  
  

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[tam]

To the assumption that has been made in this thread that Christians were given specific towns (or the world itself):

We don't have a permanent city here on earth, but we are looking for the city that we will have in the future. Hebrews 13:14


Peace to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy