Bart Ehrman has an excellent book entitled "How Jesus became God".
Without turning this into a book debate per se, let's turn the title into a question for debate.
How did Jesus become God? What do you think? What is your understanding of the process, or was Jesus always God? Evidence?
I realize there are a few assumptions in the debate question, but for argument's sake, let's go with it.
How did Jesus become God?
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How did Jesus become God?
Post #1 My theological positions:
-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
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Re: How did Jesus become God?
Post #31[Replying to theophile in post #31]
Jesus became God as Moses did- by Jehovah APPOINTING him.
Acts 17:30- The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now He commands all men everywhere to repent, 31- because He has fixed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom He has appointed, and of this He has given assurance to all men by raising him from the dead.
Jesus became God as Moses did- by Jehovah APPOINTING him.
Acts 17:30- The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now He commands all men everywhere to repent, 31- because He has fixed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom He has appointed, and of this He has given assurance to all men by raising him from the dead.
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Re: How did Jesus become God?
Post #33When did Moses become God?theQuestion wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:14 pm [Replying to theophile in post #31]
Jesus became God as Moses did- by Jehovah APPOINTING him.
Acts 17:30- The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now He commands all men everywhere to repent, 31- because He has fixed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom He has appointed, and of this He has given assurance to all men by raising him from the dead.
When did Jesus' appointment happen?
What was Jesus before his appointment? And what power did he gain through it?
Why did God need to appoint a new God to judge the world? Why couldn't God do it on God's own?
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Post #34Since you have those questions, it shows to me that you have never READ the Bible.
Don't you think it time to?
Don't you think it time to?
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Post #35When did Moses become God? Just before the exodus (Ex 7:1)
When did Jesus' appointment happen? After his resurrection.
What was Jesus before his appointment? And what power did he gain through it? Archangel. Authority 2nd to his God and Father.
Why did God need to appoint a new God to judge the world? Why couldn't God do it on God's own? Jesus DESERVED it after laying down his LIFE for it. (God never died)
When did Jesus' appointment happen? After his resurrection.
What was Jesus before his appointment? And what power did he gain through it? Archangel. Authority 2nd to his God and Father.
Why did God need to appoint a new God to judge the world? Why couldn't God do it on God's own? Jesus DESERVED it after laying down his LIFE for it. (God never died)
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Re: How did Jesus become God?
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Post #37It's called trying to better understand someone's position when all they provide is a single statement and reference. You know, like all of your previous posts where you did nothing but ask questions?theQuestion wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:39 pm Since you have those questions, it shows to me that you have never READ the Bible.
Don't you think it time to?
So Jesus wasn't God until he was resurrected? What about all the time before? What was he then? Why was Moses appointed Godhood without the life sacrifice? Was it also so that he could judge the world? If so, I assume he must have failed, hence why Jesus was required to take his place? I'm trying to understand the seemingly random appointments of God in your thinking. There's no clear logic or pattern to it so far as I can tell.When did Moses become God? Just before the exodus (Ex 7:1)
When did Jesus' appointment happen? After his resurrection.
What was Jesus before his appointment? And what power did he gain through it? Archangel. Authority 2nd to his God and Father.
Why did God need to appoint a new God to judge the world? Why couldn't God do it on God's own? Jesus DESERVED it after laying down his LIFE for it. (God never died)
Also, you said before that Jesus BECAME God, just like Moses did. But Moses is referred to as being made LIKE God to Pharaoh in Exodus 7:1, which is different from actually BEING God. So what is it? Are Jesus and Moses God, or are they LIKE God, and what is the difference in your mind?
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Post #38-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------theophile wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:46 am So Jesus wasn't God until he was resurrected? What about all the time before? What was he then? Why was Moses appointed Godhood without the life sacrifice? Was it also so that he could judge the world? If so, I assume he must have failed, hence why Jesus was required to take his place? I'm trying to understand the seemingly random appointments of God in your thinking. There's no clear logic or pattern to it so far as I can tell.
Also, you said before that Jesus BECAME God, just like Moses did. But Moses is referred to as being made LIKE God to Pharaoh in Exodus 7:1, which is different from actually BEING God. So what is it? Are Jesus and Moses God, or are they LIKE God, and what is the difference in your mind?
Your attempt to pound sqaure pegs into round holes is tragilarious!
Your imaginary Triune Godhead can NEVER fit into any scripture, and I won't help you try.
But, it IS fun to watch as your trinnies attempt to dance around the scripture.
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Post #39theQuestion wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:30 am Your attempt to pound sqaure pegs into round holes is tragilarious!
But, it IS fun to watch as your trinnies attempt to dance around the scripture.

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