What comes first, family or God?

[nobspeople]

The below link is lengthy (about 60 minutes), but speaks, in part, about how one's religious beliefs in a religion can cause families to fracture. We see this happen in families of no religion, Scientologists, Mormons, Catholics, JWs (as in this example) etc.
While this doesn't always happen, at what point does one (or should one) put their belief system before their family?
Does God command such a thing, or is it something the religion dictates only?

[Paul of Tarsus]

We are to chase God first and foremost. God before and above any and everything. We have a jealous God. We do not want Him to ever get the wrong impression of our true desires through our actions.
For example, watching t.v. instead of reading the Bible. God may sse this as you choosing the world over Him. This makes God sad, them He gets angry.

I think it's safe to say that God does not mind some TV especially when you watch the 700 Club.

[nobspeople]

Christ commanded that if need be, we must forsake and even hate our families if they get in the way of our allegiance to God.

What sort of pathetic, egotistical deity requires humans to behave in such an abhorrent manner? Would a genuine loving God have said such a thing? Never. What we really have is anonymously written claims alleged to have come from God but clearly written by human beings as religious propaganda. Today we still have manipulative people willing to exploit those words to their own advantage at the expense of the welfare of their fellow human beings.

One I gave up on a long time ago for this, any many other, reasons.
But people are funny things. Some people thrive on the need to be controlled, told what to do or not so, what to worship or not worship and to whom to give their money, time and lives.
This planet is filled with all kinds of people, so it's not entirely unexpected for there to be those that subscribe to this behavior and control.

[2ndpillar2]

The below link is lengthy (about 60 minutes), but speaks, in part, about how one's religious beliefs in a religion can cause families to fracture. We see this happen in families of no religion, Scientologists, Mormons, Catholics, JWs (as in this example) etc.
While this doesn't always happen, at what point does one (or should one) put their belief system before their family?
Does God command such a thing, or is it something the religion dictates only?

As for what the Spirit of God says in the Word, well, a good wife is a gift of God, and holy marriage is facilitated by God. "One finds the Favor of God when he finds me" (Proverbs 8:35). One finds a good wife, the foundation of a good marriage, when they find the Favor of God. Finding a good wife and a good marriage follows finding God. (Proverbs 18:22)

[2ndpillar2]

The below link is lengthy (about 60 minutes), but speaks, in part, about how one's religious beliefs in a religion can cause families to fracture. We see this happen in families of no religion, Scientologists, Mormons, Catholics, JWs (as in this example) etc.
While this doesn't always happen, at what point does one (or should one) put their belief system before their family?
Does God command such a thing, or is it something the religion dictates only?

As for what the Spirit of God says in the Word, well, a good wife is a gift of God, and holy marriage is facilitated by God. "One finds the Favor of God when he finds me" (Proverbs 8:35). One finds a good wife, the foundation of a good marriage, when they find the Favor of God. Finding a good wife and a good marriage follows finding God. (Proverbs 18:22)

[nobspeople]

The below link is lengthy (about 60 minutes), but speaks, in part, about how one's religious beliefs in a religion can cause families to fracture. We see this happen in families of no religion, Scientologists, Mormons, Catholics, JWs (as in this example) etc.
While this doesn't always happen, at what point does one (or should one) put their belief system before their family?
Does God command such a thing, or is it something the religion dictates only?

As for what the Spirit of God says in the Word, well, a good wife is a gift of God, and holy marriage is facilitated by God. "One finds the Favor of God when he finds me" (Proverbs 8:35). One finds a good wife, the foundation of a good marriage, when they find the Favor of God. Finding a good wife and a good marriage follows finding God. (Proverbs 18:22)

So could it be said a bad wife is a curse from God?
Why doesn't it say, IYO, a good HUSBAND is a gift from God? Does God not care about how a woman feels about her spouse?
Doesn't it seem odd that God speaks to finding a woman and not a man, IF, the bible wasn't written by men and if women weren't seen as important (for lack of a better term) as men back during this time?
Jesus seemed to fly in the face of much societal ideals at the time, why does God seem so 'old fashion' when speaking of how a woman seems to be a trophy for a man, instead of, at the very least, being on equal footing in this regard?

[JehovahsWitness]

Well I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and I can say my family has only been strengthened by the fact that we stick to bible standards.

We have much bible based advice on how to strengthen family bonds and do not tolerate divorce on frivolous gounds. Contrary to popular belief, we are not taught to discontinue contact with family members who do not share our faith or who choose not to continue in our religion as long as such contact does not represent a physical, emotional or spiritual danger.

It is entirely baseless to insinuate JWs teachings break up families.



JW

FURTHER READING Do Jehovahs Witnesses Break Up Families or Build Them Up?
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/families/


FURTHER READING: Practical bible based advice that can improve your marriage and help you to raise your children
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/



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[Difflugia]

So could it be said a bad wife is a curse from God?

So, you've not spent much time reading Proverbs, then?

A worthy woman is the crown of her husband,
but a disgraceful wife is as rottenness in his bones. (12:4)

A foolish son is the calamity of his father.
A wifes quarrels are a continual dripping. (19:13)

A continual dropping on a rainy day
and a contentious wife are alike:
restraining her is like restraining the wind,
or like grasping oil in his right hand. (27:16-17)

[nobspeople]

Well I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and I can say my family has only been strengthened by the fact that we stick to bible standards. We have much bible based advice on how to strengthen family bonds and do not tolerate divorce on frivolous gounds. Contrary to popular belief, we are not taught to discontinue contact with family members who do not share our faith or who choose not to continue in our religion as long as such contact does not represent a physical, emotional or spiritual danger.

It is entirely baseless to insinuate JWs teachings break up families.



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Any belief system can have fringe followers; those outside 'the bell curve'.
However, it does happen.
But that doesn't mean it's no unheard of, nor does it mean it's part of their doctrine, though the below causes me to wonder how true that last part is.

"In a statement the religious group told the BBC: "If a baptised Witness makes a practice of breaking the Bible's moral code, and does not given evidence of stopping the practice, he or she will be shunned or disfellowshipped." Jul 25, 2017"
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40704990

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/insight/how ... -my-family


"The only way to officially leave Jehovah's Witnesses is to disassociate or be disfellowshipped, and both entail the same set of prohibitions and penalties, with no provision for continued normal association." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%2 ... discipline

https://www.abc.net.au/everyday/i-dont- ... y/11885098

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion ... amily-and/

[JehovahsWitness]

"In a statement the religious group told the BBC: "If a baptised Witness makes a practice of breaking the Bible's moral code, and does not given evidence of stopping the practice, he or she will be shunned or disfellowshipped." Jul 25, 2017"
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40704990

Yes so? Are you suggesting a policy of excluding child abusers or adulters or any other deviant moral behaviour weakens, endangers or breaks up families? As I said, Jehovahs Witnesses have teachings that strengthens families including protecting them from moral or physical harm.


The Wikipedia quote is nonsense: If someone wants to stop being a Witness they have but to stop coming to "church". If they stop associating they will no longer be counted as an active Witness and would be free to go and return whenever they wish.

[nobspeople]

"In a statement the religious group told the BBC: "If a baptised Witness makes a practice of breaking the Bible's moral code, and does not given evidence of stopping the practice, he or she will be shunned or disfellowshipped." Jul 25, 2017"
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40704990

Yes so? Are you suggesting a policy of excluding child abusers or adulters or any other deviant moral behaviour weakens, endangers or breaks up families? As I said, Jehovahs Witnesses have teachings that strengthens families including protecting them from moral or physical harm.

You obviously 'over looked' the other links, only using the one that you think reinforced your argument.
Thus, your 'Yeah so what' deserves no other response that the above sentence.
Have a great week!