When does human life begin?

[polonius]

In this age of reproductive technology and cloning, is the the claim that a new human being with an immortal soul exists from the "moment of conception" credible?

This question, of course, has tremendous implications regarding the morning after pill, embryonic research, and abortion.

[brianbbs67]

I believe it begins at conception as the genome is locked in. And scientists have also noted the flash of light that accompanies it.

However, I have seen it described as about 3 months when the fetus takes on human characteristics. A book i read, about the Talmud says most jews agreed on this. But, books are like anything else....

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 1 by polonius.advice]

As one of Jehovah's Witnesses I do not believe humans possess an "immortal soul".

I believe life begins at conception , the moment a sperm ferilizes a human egg and the cells begin to divide in a process that will eventually lead (if uninteruped) to the birth of a new individual, separate and distinct from his or her parents.


JW

Further Reading: Is it wrong to have an abortion?
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[Wootah]

Not to be a républicain at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head.

If you’re not a socialist before you’re twenty-five, you have no heart; if you are a socialist after twenty-five, you have no head.

If you aren’t a liberal when you’re young, you have no heart, but if you aren’t a middle-aged conservative, you have no head.

So i would say life begins for each of us at different times and some few are never born .

[bluethread]

JehovahsWitness:

I believe life begins at conception , the moment a sperm ferilizes a human egg and the cells begin to divide in a process that will eventually lead (if uninteruped) to the birth of a new individual, separate and distinct from his or her parents.

Unless one believes in euthanasia, any other view is inconsistent. No matter what other criteria one uses, there are born human beings that meet that criteria.

[wiploc]

When does human life begin?

It began when humanity diverged from ancestral forms. Unless you believe that a dead sperm cell animates a dead egg cell, you cannot believe that human life begins at conception.

Now, if you want to talk about when a human life begins, that's different. It's also arbitrary. You can say it is at the moment of conception, but you can also say it happens at meiosis. You could say it is when a man gets a gleam in his eye. No answer will be objective.

In this age of reproductive technology and cloning, is the the claim that a new human being with an immortal soul exists from the "moment of conception" credible?

No, souls are not credible. To believe in souls is to believe in magic. To believe in magic is to abandon the search for logical answers. If you abandon Occam's razor, then every question has an infinity of equally credible answers.

An omnipotent god could attach a soul at any moment of his choosing, to anything he wished to attach it. Science and logic will never help us answer questions about magic.

This question, of course, has tremendous implications regarding the morning after pill, embryonic research, and abortion.

No, it doesn't. How could it?

[Jack]

Jeremiah 1:4 The word of the Lord came to me saying:

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you. Before you were born I set you apart. I appoint you as profit to the nations. Life begins at the moment of conception.

[imhereforyou]

In this age of reproductive technology and cloning, is the the claim that a new human being with an immortal soul exists from the "moment of conception" credible?

This question, of course, has tremendous implications regarding the morning after pill, embryonic research, and abortion.

Likely, on some level, we have, and always will, exist. When we, as people, decide to place a starting and end point on it is only meaningful in legality.

[wiploc]

Jeremiah 1:4 The word of the Lord came to me saying:

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you. Before you were born I set you apart. I appoint you as profit to the nations. Life begins at the moment of conception.

How can you possibly reach that conclusion from that premise? If you said that it meant that your life began at the beginning, at the moment god created the universe, I would understand. But to quote scripture saying it happens before the womb, and conclude that it happens in the womb, that makes no sense to me.