When I learned that the Bible speaks of a restored Garden of Eden and the restoration of mankind to the perfection and endless life that Adam forfeited, I was thrilled. Who doesn't want to keep living on this beautiful earth, with our loved ones, and being able to do all the things we love to do---endlessly?
If God said to you today, "When do you want to die?" would you say "now!!"? I don't think very many people would say that.
We CAN live forever here on Earth. The Bible tells us that we can.
Matthew 5:5
Psalm 37:9-11,29
Paradise on Earth
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Re: Paradise on Earth
Post #2241myth-one.com wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:08 am Was the same word "nephesh" used to refer to both man and animals in the original Old Testament scriptures?
Was the same word "psuche" used to refer to both man and animals in the original New Testament scriptures?
No, they are "yes" or "no" questions.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:43 pm This is an example of the fallacy'of .... "False equivalence"
Or perhaps you simply do not know.
The correct answer to both questions is "yes".
Now you know, so your not knowing is no longer a possible answer.
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Re: Paradise on Earth
Post #2242myth-one.com wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:08 am Was the same word "nephesh" used to refer to both man and animals in the original Old Testament scriptures?
Was the same word "psuche" used to refer to both man and animals in the original New Testament scriptures?
No, they are "yes" or "no" questions.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:43 pm This is an example of the fallacy'of .... "False equivalence"
Or perhaps you simply do not know.
The correct answer to both questions is "yes".
Now you know, so your not knowing is no longer a possible answer.
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Re: Paradise on Earth
Post #2243Matthew 5:5 states biblical Jesus saying "Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth."We CAN live forever here on Earth. The Bible tells us that we can.
Matthew 5:5
Psalm 37:9-11,29
There is no 'forever' in that - Just that the meek inherit the earth...
Matthew 5:3 states biblical Jesus saying "Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
We could infer from that- since heaven is the realm of the immortal - that the poor in spirit will experience the kingdom of heaven forever.
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Re: Paradise on Earth
Post #2244DOES THE BIBLE REALLY HOLD OUT THE HOPE OF LIVING FOREVER ON THIS OUR PLANET EARTH?
ORIGINAL PURPOSE
LIVE FOREVER
PSALMS 37:29
The righteous will possess the earth and they will live forever on it
REVELATION 21:4
And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”
JOHN 11: 25, 26
The one who exercises faith in me, even though he dies, will come to life; and everyone who is living and exercises faith in me will never die at all
PSALM 72:8
In his days the righteous .will flourish and peace will abound until the moon is no more. He will have subjects from sea to sea and from the river to the ends of the earth.
ORIGINAL PURPOSE
ON EARTHWhat his God's purpose for mankind?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 14#p967714
Was God's original purpose that humans live forever on earth?
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Was God's original purpose* for mankind that ALL humans live forever in paradise?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 45#p967845
Is it true that physical flesh and blood human beings can NEVER live forever?
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Were humans designed to live forever?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 82#p815882
Is there scriptural support that the righteous will live in this our planet EARTH?
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Does the word PARADISE refer to a sprititual or a physical realm?
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Does the bible say the earth was ever purposed for spirits?
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Where will spirit anointed Christians spend eternity?
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If people live forever and continue to reproduce, wont the earth become overpopulated?
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Once the earth is fully populated , will God remove human genitials
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LIVE FOREVER
Is there scriptural evidence that God intended physical flesh and blood human beings live forever?
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Does the bible really hold out te hope of living on this physical planet earth forever ?
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What does the bible mean by "forever" when it speaks of the righteous living on earth ?
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Does Genesis 6:3 mean humans were decreed to live no longer than 120 years?
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Will it be righteous angels or humans that will live on earth FOREVER?
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Re: Paradise on Earth
Post #2245Plants die too. Do they add to the conundrum? Let's use our power of reason and understand that plants, animals and humans are separate groups with their own rules. Humans were made to live forever, but animals were not.William wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:54 pm [Replying to nobspeople in post #2234]
Yet we know animals die. So we are left with an unsolved contradiction regarding sin being the reason for death.Animals can't sin, unlike people.
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Re: Paradise on Earth
Post #2246You didn't read Psalm 37:9-11 and 29.William wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 3:27 pmMatthew 5:5 states biblical Jesus saying "Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth."We CAN live forever here on Earth. The Bible tells us that we can.
Matthew 5:5
Psalm 37:9-11,29
There is no 'forever' in that - Just that the meek inherit the earth...
Matthew 5:3 states biblical Jesus saying "Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
We could infer from that- since heaven is the realm of the immortal - that the poor in spirit will experience the kingdom of heaven forever.
"The meek will possess the earth and they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace....The righteous will possess the earth and they will live forever on it." (Psalm 37:11,29)
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Re: Paradise on Earth
Post #2247Did YHWH not breath life into plants and animals? What do you think is the defining difference, aside from unsupported belief that human were made to exist forever?onewithhim wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:21 pmPlants die too. Do they add to the conundrum? Let's use our power of reason and understand that plants, animals and humans are separate groups with their own rules. Humans were made to live forever, but animals were not.William wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:54 pm [Replying to nobspeople in post #2234]
Yet we know animals die. So we are left with an unsolved contradiction regarding sin being the reason for death.Animals can't sin, unlike people.
I suppose this circle back to the idea that the planet was made to exist forever, but the science appears to disagree with this belief...
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Post #2248There is no contradiction, and humans were created to die exactly like the other animals:onewithhim wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:21 pmPlants die too. Do they add to the conundrum? Let's use our power of reason and understand that plants, animals and humans are separate groups with their own rules. Humans were made to live forever, but animals were not.William wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:54 pm [Replying to nobspeople in post #2234]
Yet we know animals die. So we are left with an unsolved contradiction regarding sin being the reason for death.Animals can't sin, unlike people.
Hebrews 9:27 wrote:And it is appointed unto men once to die, . . .
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Post #2249No I didn't read that. It appears Jesus was quoting the scripture of the day in his sermon to those who would have been familiar with said scripture.onewithhim wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:25 pmYou didn't read Psalm 37:9-11 and 29.William wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 3:27 pmMatthew 5:5 states biblical Jesus saying "Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth."We CAN live forever here on Earth. The Bible tells us that we can.
Matthew 5:5
Psalm 37:9-11,29
There is no 'forever' in that - Just that the meek inherit the earth...
Matthew 5:3 states biblical Jesus saying "Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."
We could infer from that- since heaven is the realm of the immortal - that the poor in spirit will experience the kingdom of heaven forever.
"The meek will possess the earth and they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace....The righteous will possess the earth and they will live forever on it." (Psalm 37:11,29)
But it does appear that both Jesus and the author of the scripture he part-quoted, were unaware that this earth would not last forever.
I wonder if it bothers the meek and righteous that while they await their promised inheritance, every day that passes adds human-made pollution to the situation?
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Post #2250That's what I love about the bible! It has something for everyone, because "contradictions"myth-one.com wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:44 pmThere is no contradiction, and humans were created to die exactly like the other animals:onewithhim wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:21 pmPlants die too. Do they add to the conundrum? Let's use our power of reason and understand that plants, animals and humans are separate groups with their own rules. Humans were made to live forever, but animals were not.William wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 1:54 pm [Replying to nobspeople in post #2234]
Yet we know animals die. So we are left with an unsolved contradiction regarding sin being the reason for death.Animals can't sin, unlike people.
Hebrews 9:27 wrote:And it is appointed unto men once to die, . . .