"....and all the world wondered after the beast." (Rev. 13:3)
The antichrist is supposed to fool everyone----except true Christians----into worshipping him.
How well would that work out? Would he be able to fool.....
Jews? Judaism holds that only God is to be worshipped and that God does not take any physical form. Worship of any human being is considered blasphemous idolatry, and any wonders the antichrist performed would be interpreted as the workings of a false teacher sent by God to test the Jewish people.
Muslims? Islam also teaches that God takes no physical form, so they too would instantly peg the antichrist as a phony.
Feminist Pagans would reject any god-claim which didn't acknowledge the Goddess.
Atheists would suspect any miracle of being either a trick or a coincidence. An "image of the beast" brought to life could be taken for an artificial intelligence project.
The god-claim of the antichrist being fundamentally incompatible with so many beliefs, who would be left for the antichrist to fool?
Who would the antichrist fool?
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Re: Who would the antichrist fool?
Post #71Ozzy_O wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:14 am I'm just following the science
https://www.americanlibertyreportnews.c ... n-america/
No, you are not following science, you aren't even following legitimate news sources.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/american-liberty-report/Overall, we rate The American Liberty Report Right Biased and Questionable due to a complete lack of transparency, poor sourcing, and demonstrably false claims.
They do not even pretend to be a science source. This is just another right wing fake news source that proclaims legitimate news sources represent 'fake news.'
This is part of a pattern here on this forum. 'Newbies' get all rev'd up listening to or reading right wing/anti science sources like this or 'Answers in Genesis' or any of the science denying creationist blogs and think they can wade into a forum on religion and spout this nonsense and be taken seriously, as if we haven't heard it all before, ad nauseam.
It runs its course, they get frustrated and get banned or they keep it up and get ignored for continually promulgating nonsense about the Earth being flat or 6000 years old or claiming vaccines don't work and science is a religion that atheists worship. It's all nonsense and fairy dust.
The only thing posts like these accomplish is to confirm the hopelessness of religious fantasy and irrationality of science denial.
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Post #72That's rich! I suppose you rcan commend CNN, MSNBC, FOXNEWS or other mainstr am propaganda sourcesAthetotheist wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:18 amhttps://mediabiasfactcheck.com/american-liberty-report/Ozzy_O wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:14 am I'm just following the science
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Post #73For those with ears to hear and eyes to see. Decide for yourself, or let a LGBTQ+ government loving shill tell you how safe and fictive the vaccine is. They can't explain what such a theory has to be censored so heavily, but mmmm kay.....
these same people screech that man can have babies and climate change is real......
You have no credibility bruh, we see you for what you are
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these same people screech that man can have babies and climate change is real......
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Post #75Here's what your source said:Ozzy_O wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:36 amThat's rich! I suppose you rcan commend CNN, MSNBC, FOXNEWS or other mainstr am propaganda sourcesAthetotheist wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:18 amhttps://mediabiasfactcheck.com/american-liberty-report/Ozzy_O wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:14 am I'm just following the science
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"The CDC’s main webpage about the mRNA COVID shots still says, to this very day, “COVID-19 vaccines are safe, effective and free.” That’s the very first sentence on the website. Safe and effective! That’s been the CDC’s position for the entire time. The vaccines are safe, and they cannot hurt you.
If that’s true, then why wouldn’t the CDC release the data until a court ordered it to do so following a lawsuit by the Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN)?"
https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigatio ... 022-10-12/But the CDC missed its deadline. A spokesperson cited a delay in “the technical and administrative processes” necessary to post on the agency’s website, but said it hopes to have the information up by late November or early December.
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There's no way, however, based on the information collected, to determine whether the COVID-19 vaccines actually caused the ailments. ICAN's analysis included responses reported beyond the first seven days post-vaccine and it counted all reports of people seeking medical attention up to a year after receiving the shot. ICAN did not specify when after vaccination they received the care, nor did the data indicate what the care was for.
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Post #76BINGO!Ozzy_O wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:45 am For those with ears to hear and eyes to see. Decide for yourself, or let a LGBTQ+ government loving shill tell you how safe and fictive the vaccine is. They can't explain what such a theory has to be censored so heavily, but mmmm kay.....
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Post #77Why do some theists think they can speak for atheists? Atheists hold one thing in common and only one thing, we aren't convinced god/gods exist. This atheist would examine any verifiable evidence that is presented to support the claim of a miracle. I wouldn't presume anything to be a trick or coincidence if it could be proven to be otherwise. Strawman arguments are most tiresome. Why do you rely on them?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:08 pm
Atheists would suspect any miracle of being either a trick or a coincidence.
On the other hand, what verifiable evidence can you produce to convince anyone that such a being as the antichrist has or ever will exist? I for one, unlike your strawman, will be glad to examine any verifiable evidence you attempt to present. What have you?
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Why do some atheists get all defensive even when theists are trying to give them credit for something?Why do some theists think they can speak for atheists?
Given the pride you guys take in being initially skeptical of extraordinary claims, you would certainly demand proof first, wouldn't you? In my OP I said, "An 'image of the beast' brought to life could be taken for an artificial intelligence project." Be honest; wouldn't you, as a matter of intellectual principle, suspect that before considering anything supernatural? You know----Occam's Razor, and all?I wouldn't presume anything to be a trick or coincidence if it could be proven to be otherwise.
Will the real strawman please stand up? I started this discussion to argue against the existence of such a figure.On the other hand, what verifiable evidence can you produce to convince anyone that such a being as the antichrist has or ever will exist? I for one, unlike your strawman, will be glad to examine any verifiable evidence you attempt to present. What have you?
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Post #79I'm not defensive at all. I've pointed out the fallacy of you speaking on behalf of atheists and misrepresenting us.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:01 pm [Replying to Tcg in post #77
Why do some atheists get all defensive even when theists are trying to give them credit for something?Why do some theists think they can speak for atheists?
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Post #80Misrepresenting you? You question every supernatural claim all the time. How am I misrepresenting you by assuming that you wouldn't do any different?Tcg wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:09 pmI'm not defensive at all. I've pointed out the fallacy of you speaking on behalf of atheists and misrepresenting us.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:01 pm [Replying to Tcg in post #77
Why do some atheists get all defensive even when theists are trying to give them credit for something?Why do some theists think they can speak for atheists?