Is Jesus mediator only for the "anointed class" of JWs?

[MissKate13]

If true, then WHO mediates for the rest of the Jehovahs Witnesses?

[MissKate13]

[Replying to Eloi in post #10]
But is Jesus mediator for all JWs or just the anointed class? I cant seem to get a clear answer for my OP question. A yes or no would be much appreciated.

[MissKate13]

Why cant I get an answer to the OP question? A simple yes/no/I dont know would have been appreciated.

Can one of you JWs please answer the OP question? I dont need long drawn out posts about tribes, etc. Jesus is either your mediator or He is not.

[otseng]

I am not interested in talking to non-believers about interpretation of the Scriptures. They have nothing to teach me.
Obviously some who call themselves "Christians" have no idea what they are talking about... and they pretend to be teachers.
If that is what those who call themselves "Christians" can give, what can we expect from non-believers?

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[MissKate13]

[Replying to otseng in post #23]

The OP asks a simple question. There is no discussion of Scriptures. Obviously youre not interested in answering questions. I can only conclude you either cant or wont answer.

Your post seems smug, and not at all christian like. Not to mention DISRESPECTFUL! And not at all deserved. I may disagree with what you teach, but I have not disrespected you or any other JW on this forum.

I may not believe Watchtowers teachings, but I do believe Jesus is the Son of God, and I follow Him to the best of my ability. Who are you to say who is a believer and who is not? Who made you judge?

Personally, I learn from everyone, believers and non-believers alike. There are different kinds of learning and different kinds of teachers. I listen, and then go to the Scriptures to see if whats being taught is true or false. I find learning how false teachers view the Scriptures helps me contend for the faith.

[2timothy316]

If true, then WHO mediates for the rest of the Jehovahs Witnesses?

The other sheep do not have a legal mediator as they are not part of the New Covenant.

[MissKate13]

[Replying to 2timothy316 in post #25]

Thank you for answering my question, and for being respectful.

Have a blessed day!

Kate

[Miles]

[Replying to Miles in post #5]

Whats your answer to the OP question? Does Jesus mediate for all JWs? Yes? No?

As I understand this mediation you speak of it only applies to the fortunate 144,000, and in as much as the 144,000 were chosen long ago Jesus has no JW to mediate for. So my answer is No. Jesus does not mediate for all JWs, or any JW.

But why would Jesus have to mediate anything?

"A mediator is one who mediates, that is, one who acts as an intermediary to work with opposing sides in order to bring about a settlement. A mediator attempts to influence a disagreement between two parties with the goal of resolving a dispute. There is only one Mediator between mankind and God, and that is Jesus Christ. In this article, well see why God has a dispute with us, why Jesus is our mediator, and why we are doomed if we try to represent ourselves alone before God."
source

Wouldn't an omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent god already know what the best course of action would be, and therefore have no need for the input of Jesus or anyone else? . Of course he would.


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[JehovahsWitness]

But why would Jesus have to mediate anything?

MEDIATOR

One who intercedes between two parties in order to reconcile them. In the Scriptures, Moses and Jesus are the mediators of the Law covenant and the new covenant respectively.Ga 3:19; 1Ti 2:5.

A mediator was needed to establish a legal basis for the agreement (a covenant) between God and humans to be called to heaven when they died. Adamic sin (and for Jews failure to perfectly keep the Mosaic law), rendered this arrangement impossible before the death of Christ. This is why Jesus was needed.



JEHOVAH'S WITNESS




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[JehovahsWitness]

If true, then WHO mediates for the rest of the Jehovahs Witnesses?

The other sheep do not have a legal mediator as they are not part of the New Covenant.

I get the feeling most people do not know what a MEDIATOR is and are confusing it with INTERSESSION or intercessory prayer ( the act of praying to a deity on behalf of others, or asking a saint in heaven to pray on behalf of oneself or for others). Or maybe people are confusing the act of mediating the new covenant with dying for the whole world ie they think if a Christian is not part of the New Covenant they cannot benefit from the ransom.

Anyway, I've yet to meet anyone that knows the difference between the above and can use their BIBLE to prove the JWs position is scripturally wrong.



JW

[MissKate13]

If true, then WHO mediates for the rest of the Jehovahs Witnesses?

The other sheep do not have a legal mediator as they are not part of the New Covenant.

I get the feeling most people do not know what a MEDIATOR is and are confusing it with INTERSESSION or intercessory prayer ( the act of praying to a deity on behalf of others, or asking a saint in heaven to pray on behalf of oneself or for others). Or maybe people are confusing the act of mediating the new covenant with dying for the whole world ie they think if a Christian is not part of the New Covenant they cannot benefit from the ransom.

Anyway, I've yet to meet anyone that knows the difference between the above and can use their BIBLE to prove the JWs position is scripturally wrong.

JW

Who do you believe is mediator for the sheep?

Jesus is our intercessor. This is His role as Priest. He pleads our cause to God on our behalf. We have offended our Heavenly Father with our sins. We pray to the Father through Jesus. We ask forgiveness for our sins. He in turn lays our transgressions before God, pleading mercy for our immoral situation.

Intercession by Jesus is not connected to atonement or redemption, whereas His being mediator is.

Jesus as mediator does more than intercede.

As Mediator, Jesus Christ is the "peace-maker" between man and God to take care of man's sin problem. As the sacrificial Lamb, He is the means by which sin is removed between man and God.

To mediate means to strive for a settlement between two parties on what is better for both. An intercessor intercedes. He works to avert the consequences of wrongdoing.

Jesus mediates for the forgiveness of our sins. He is the Atoner who paid our debts on our behalf.

Jesus mediates to obtain the blessing of salvation from God to man. He is our Mediator by virtue of His atonement for our sins.