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Does Hell Exist?

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The question for debate is does hell exist? If so, what does the Bible teach hell is?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:12 am
Mae von H wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:22 am Right now our bodies and spirits are together. At death they separate. So it it true that the body is in the grave upon death. Where else should it be? The soul, however, is not there.
The bible usage if the word SOUL is quite different from mainstream church usage. A SOUL is just a living person or animal. At death the soul ceases to exist.

The words SPIRIT and SOUL are not synonymes.

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Data wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:10 pm The question for debate is does hell exist? If so, what does the Bible teach hell is?
Jesus taught that hell is a place where the fire is never quenched and the worms never die. He warned people to avoid that destiny.

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Difflugia wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:44 pm The Bible also says that a dead person's spirit can be called up and spoken with, just as plainly as it says that the dead know nothing. ...
Sorry to interrupt, but is the person really dead, if he can come to speak?

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Mae von H wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:05 pm
Data wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:10 pm The question for debate is does hell exist? If so, what does the Bible teach hell is?
Jesus taught that hell is a place where the fire is never quenched and the worms never die. He warned people to avoid that destiny.
I guess some worms are just plain....evil?

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1213 wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:16 pm
Difflugia wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:44 pm The Bible also says that a dead person's spirit can be called up and spoken with, just as plainly as it says that the dead know nothing. ...
Sorry to interrupt, but is the person really dead, if he can come to speak?
Right. By the eternal soul doctrine everyone who is a spirit....is dead? So, God is dead?

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Mae von H wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:03 pmDavid wrote that he would one day go to be with son and he didn’t mean sharing a grave.
ACTS 2:34 - New King James Version

“For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he says himself: ‘The LORD said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand


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" Who will grant me this, that thou mayst protect me IN HELL, and hide me till thy wrath pass, and appoint me a. time when thou wilt remember me? " -- Job 14: 13 (Catholic Douay Version)

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"And all his children being gathered together to comfort their father in his sorrow, he would not receive comfort, but said: I will go down to my son INTO HELL, mourning. " -- Jacob (Genesis 37: 35 - Catholic Douay Version)

ABOUT GOOD MAN KING DAVID...
"Therefore my heart is glad and my glory rejoiceth; my flesh also shall rest in hope. For thou will not leave my soul in HELL..." -- Good King David's Words (see Psalms 16: 10 King James Version)
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Mae von H wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:03 pm Revelation describes the spirits in Heaven, ...
Yes. God is a spirit. He lives in heaven. This does not mean God used to be an invisible part of a human - A SPIRIT (PERSON) is a powerful unseen being. God created many many other spirits like him. The most powerful and important one was Jesus. Then there were other SPIRITS like Jesus and God (JEHOVAH) We call these other spirits ANGELS.



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Mae von H wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:03 pm The Bible says Jesus gave up the spirit.
That's just another way of saying he died, he breathed his last. (The SPIRIT is one's lifeforce)
Mae von H wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:03 pm Stephan cried out to Jesus (not the grave) to receive his spirit.
Yes. Nobody is claiming Jesus is STILL dead in the grave. He (Jesus) was dead for just 3 days; after that he was resurrected and returned to heaven.
Mae von H wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:03 pm ...Jesus promises to receive his disciples.
Yes, some humans will also go to live in heaven. They will have to die and then God will resurrect them (recreated them) with a new different body , a SPIRIT body. They will be like the angels and live with Jesus and Jehovah YHWH in heaven.

Mae von H wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:03 pm Paul wrote that he was going to be with Jesus.
Yes, Paul was one of those humans that hope to be resurrected to heavenly life (see above)


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2timothy316 wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:11 pm
Mae von H wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:05 pm
Data wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:10 pm The question for debate is does hell exist? If so, what does the Bible teach hell is?
Jesus taught that hell is a place where the fire is never quenched and the worms never die. He warned people to avoid that destiny.
I guess some worms are just plain....evil?
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2timothy316 wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:14 pm Right. By the eternal soul doctrine everyone who is a spirit....is dead? So, God is dead?
I don't think God is dead, nor that everyone who is spirit is dead.

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